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Sorted the canvas on the main deck and primed it, well worth the extra trouble, one handkerchief did the lot.  There were a couple of bubbles but they will be hidden by the gun platform :phew:

 

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Spent the rest of the day sorting out the first platform behind the deckhouse, hopefully the second one will go quicker and better.  Still it gives me the dimensions I need to print the lockers

 

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Work list getting shorter, torpedo tube mechanism and torpedo racks still to make, torpedo heads and tails drawn for printing, the last bend is in sight

 

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The problem with scratch-building is creating each piece in such a way that it doesn't let the other items down.  The bridge rear platforms are just not good enough in the light of day and after painting.  Not only are the platforms slightly tilted, the 1mm rod is too big, out of scale, shame.  So, today's I've redone the 3d model, added the platform to it and re-printed.  That didn't work, too fine now, printing separated, so re-re-printing, results tomorrow.  Meanwhile this is what I mean about just not up to snuff, see how large those handrails look?  The new version will use 0.8mm wire, not a big difference in size, but it will look so much better

 

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While all that printing was underway, I've sort of completed the port torpedo tube assembly (just door hand crank to add)

 

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one down, one to go, shame some of the detail is hidden by the checker plate steps

 

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Excellent work Steve. You have me so jealous that you are going to have a fantastic 1/48 S38 at the end of this. 

I'm really looking forward to the finished sboot. I got all excited the other day and dragged out my 1/72 S100 kit only too

be reminded that the front deck part is missing. 

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4 hours ago, Greg Law said:

You have me so jealous that you are going to have a fantastic 1/48 S38 at the end of this

Thanks Greg, I'm doing my best to do it justice.  What seemed a simple project going in actually really testing me quite a bit

 

Feel like I'm on the home straight now though, we are moving house in a few weeks so I'm under the gun to get it complete

 

Cheers

 

Steve

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I wonder if am I the only one who wears out minicraft hobby drills, today was my third in 2 years.  I think the bushes just wear out but I can't see a way to replace them, only the whole drill, I should buy a crate of them.  I'm sure the first one I had lasted 10 years, sigh...  Anyway, I use it all the time, so play stopped a bit until the replacement arrives.

 

In between though, I did manage to sort the first of the vent platform things with 0.7mm wire handrails, this looks so much better.  Here you can see it, the near one is just the print at this stage.  Just visible in this shot are the speaking tubes on the open bridge, 0.7 mm wire with fine twine wound round it and a super tiny 1.5mm tube end piece (why bother, I ask myself...).  Anyway, I think they'll paint up OK.  What you can't quite see is the 0.2 mm wire that runs from the sticking up aerial thing to the diagonal entry port to the radio room, now that is absolutely OTT.  BTW, there is a second diagonal aerial to fit to the starboard side, it mounts on that upright stanchion, its made but not fitted, very late job that one

 

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I've also put together the first torpedo, here is it sitting on the cradles, still waiting on the channel section that joins them together

 

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It's all loose at the moment so don't worry about alignment, that still needs sorting.  I'm permanently dry trying stuff while I work my way around the model.  Pleased with the torpedo surface detail, can be picked out when I paint it, that printer is amazing....

 

Rubbish shot below of the second gun deflection frame with its quadrant shaped risers.  The simple diagonal one I'd made earlier was wrong from pictures, the problem with a plan that doesn't contain sections.

Also clear in this shot are the two deck lockers, the large RUL and a smaller one on the kitchen roof that is clear in pictures but missing from my plan, the dimensions are just guesswork, as is the surface detail.  From the pictures, the front looks top hung

 

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Note also the Bofors ammo clip and the swan-neck (sort of) vents.  One interesting little detail that literally no one will ever care about is the two tiny pullies on the forward edge of the kitchen roof (same on other side).  These are shown on my drawing, along with one more on the main engine room roof.  In the PE sheet for the Italeri kit, these are shown as disks with no apparent purpose, my drawing they are clearly pullies, could be for handling a purchase or moving torpedo's, who knows? 

 

Love that gun...

 

Steve

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Lovely work Steve ! I like the deck locker, I haven't seen any drawings of one either. As for the pulleys, I think they may have been used for the mines but I'm not sure.

 

Regards,

 

Arjan

 

 

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34 minutes ago, Arjan said:

I like the deck locker, I haven't seen any drawings of one either

If its of interest, this is my 3D artwork, easy to re-scale to 1:35 and happy to send it if you have a way of printing it

 

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Cheers

 

Steve

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Very productive day for once.  Worked out a quick way to make the stanchions, I was being a bit stupid before with the wire holding the stanchions in place to solder the bases on.  It occurred to me that the orientation of the base doesn't matter until the hole is cut, so why not drill that after soldering the base...  Made a simple jig to cut all the tubing to exactly the same length and then made up a base the thickness of which is exactly the length of the stalk so that when the tube is run in the hole, the surface is in the right place to solder up the base.  Using this method, I made all 40 stanchions in just over an hour :thumbsup:.  I'm half way through drilling the holes (got bored {no pun intended}, will finish tomorrow). Then I have to make up the wire loops (more boring) so should have these done and primed this weekend.

 

Length jig in the vice, simple cut with the piercing saw, takes seconds, each one identical

 

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A fine array of 42 stanchions resulted

 

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A few of these have diagonal bracing, I'll do that with a sleeve and silver solder the braces.  The stanchions are actually mostly covered by the canvas dodgers anyway (papier mache coming again...)

 

I've finally finished printing all the misc bits, below the 20 mm flak spare ammo in little rectangular trays, etched ammo, printed trays, note nav lights also fitted

 

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And I managed to draw a smoke machine I like, here are the two before priming (they have sloped bases to compensate for the slope of the deck).  Wire handles and smoke pipe

 

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And once primed the detail shows up

 

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Its even finally time to paint the deck house, I've stopped soldering bits to it so could think of a reason not to prime it, here is a general view of the boat so far, a mix of prime and final paint...  Quite a lot of touch up on the deck lines completed

 

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I think its going to be OK

 

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On 31/01/2021 at 17:05, Steve D said:

I wonder if am I the only one who wears out minicraft hobby drills, today was my third in 2 years

 

I've not had any better luck with Proxxon, perhaps were heavy handed :shrug:

 

On 31/01/2021 at 17:05, Steve D said:

and a super tiny 1.5mm tube end piece (why bother, I ask myself...).

 

On 31/01/2021 at 17:05, Steve D said:

What you can't quite see is the 0.2 mm wire that runs from the sticking up aerial thing to the diagonal entry port to the radio room, now that is absolutely OTT

 

What they call in Cornwall as a 'Proper Job! '

 

I can see from the workshop you must be working 26 hours a day..........

 

Cracking work

 

Kev

 

 

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Looking really good, I think that you have a natural gift for this, it’s the only way I can explain the phenomenal progress you are making with this build.

In all seriousness I have terrific admiration for your totally fearless multi media approach, lovely job as usual !

 

cheers

 

David

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1 hour ago, Dancona said:

your totally fearless multi media approach

Thanks for the kind words David.  As I get older, the tools get better so hopefully they are compensating for my reduced dexterity. 

 

It's a really interesting model, I'm enjoying it and have some great detail still to include plus of course weathering to bring the shiny back to a hard fought war boat. 

 

I'm under real time pressure this time as I've said, I'd hate not to finish before we move as I'll be out for months then as a house project will take precedence.... :worry:

 

Cheers

 

Steve

 

 

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Steve - I thnk Kev said it for me - you are sleeping - right?

 

Your speed of progress is astonshing - those guns for me rank as being your most impressive work to date as is the whole build - utterly inspiring

What a museum piece this is going to turn out to be, and I agree with Dan as to "your totally fearless multi-media approach..."

Thrice Wow!:coolio:

Rob

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Well Steve you have got me all reved up. I was lucky to find a 1/72 S100 kit locally. This will allow me to get the pattern of the fore deck from it and scratch build the S38 using the old kit. I can use the new kit to build S100. This will give me the three main Sboot versions in 1/72 as I already have S10 built.

By the way this might amuse you. Years ago I made 3d models for CFS3 both planes and ships. One of the projects was making a Sboot and MTB simulation.  I made an S38 and S30 plus an MTB. I made a Uboot bunker at Brest and an MTB port  on the Thames estuary. I also built T-boots, Scharnhorst and her sister ship. This allowed me to make a Channel dash mission. You drove S38 starting in the bunker and escorted the Capital ships up the Channel fighting off MTB and Swordfish attacks. It was the highlight of my simming period. 

Yesterday I was looking for images of the S38 only to have my expensive 3d graphics machine die on me. The water coolent leaked on to the graphics card and motherboard. The machine just doesn't like having a shower of coolent. Anyway I feel  better now I have found a S100 kit locally. 

Keep up the good work. I'm really enjoying following along.

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5 hours ago, Greg Law said:

This will allow me to get the pattern of the fore deck from it and scratch build

Greg

 

What a great story, I'd love to have a go at that sim.

 

If you need any help or drawings, just PM me, I've now more or less redrawn the entire boat and all the components, as much time spent drawing as building really.  Most of the printed stuff will rescale to 1:72, albeit with some loss of detail so again, please reach out, I'll be happy to help

 

Cheers and thanks for the nice comments

 

Stvee

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9 hours ago, robgizlu said:

guns for me rank as being your most impressive work to date as is the whole build

Rob, 

 

Yes I'm sleeping, thanks :sleeping:

 

I agree, the Bofors came together quite well and quickly.  When you start these projects, you're never sure (well I'm never sure) that you can actually make every item to a standard that does it justice.  The deck house has actually been the major challenge, copper really helped here, not sure how I'd have done it otherwise.  I'm looking forward to seeing it painted and weathered, 

 

Thanks again for your kind comments

 

Steve

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More progress, no rest for the wicked...:devil:

 

Mixing up making things with painting, to keep the variety.

 

Here's some staged shots of where I've got to, most stuff still loose.  Note the smoke machines and mines, these are painted all matt black at this stage, more stuff to pick out and then weathering will lift the dull black appearance and help show the detail on the print which is really cool.  Gun platform awaiting the last stanchions, coming soon.  What you can't see but I'm really pleased with is the scuttles on the open hatches which I managed to glaze with micro kristal klear , brilliant!  

 

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Moving along, lots of progress on painting the deckhouse, vent platform still in primer here, other one needs finishing

 

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View from the bow, searchlight not fixed, looks like it slipped, glazing panes on the windows still to add

 

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So, overall coming on nicely.

 

Lastly, a sight to please, the end of the simple stanchions

 

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And then in primer, note also lifebuoys in the background, ready to fix.  The cylindrical thing in the middle is I believe, a rope canister.  It's clearly visible on one of the photographs so I included it, think it was also red from the image, seems the same colour as the ring.  They mount to the deck house sides and the single ring is held on the rear stanchion, stern light assembly between the mines.  Much thinner and slightly larger rings than RN

 

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Cheers

 

Steve

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11 minutes ago, Courageous said:

Looking very business like at the back end, nice.

Thanks Stuart, I love those mines, way better than some boring depth charges.   Just wait until they are finished and the detail is highlighted, I think they will sing

 

Cheers

 

Steve

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