Sturmovik Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 I want that 1:48 Horten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas V. Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 (edited) Its Dragon's / Cyber Hobby kit. Edited November 8, 2020 by Thomas V. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr T Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 (edited) The Sea Vixen might be the Special Hobby given that Revell have done deals with them in the past (Vampire, Meteor, Hudson, P70). Not bought anything Revell since the Shackleton MR3 and not much before then. They are a bit of a disappointment for me at present, but I appreciate that others may find something for them. Just seen the above post re the Sea Vixen. The decal sheet will be better. Edited November 8, 2020 by Mr T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 10 hours ago, Mu17 said: Hi Col - at first glance the Ho.229.V6 intake look like the V2 - so the upper wing surface is smooth and the engine has no protruding fairing. The lower surface does have a small protruding fairing. From memory, the engines move about 150mm outboard. However the changes re more significant. The contour of the whole top surface of the centre section is the same as V3/Revell/Dragon kits except the forward engine intake lip is gone. This is achieved by changing the engine thrustline and that is done by lowering the front of the engine. On V3 the centre of the engine lines up with the centreline of the wing leading edge - in front view. On V6 the engine centreline is well below the wing centreline. This would have resulted in a lot of the engine hanging out of the underside but this is avoided by making the wing section thicker but that extra thickness is applied to the underside only. The thicker underside can be seen very clearly on Dragons two seater - why ? because the two seater was a stretched version of the Ho.229V6 - unhelpfully Hortens drawing of the two seater is also labelled V6 but thats another story. Unfortunately you can't just cut the nose off the two seater to create a V6 due to the geometry of the longer airfoil created by the extended nose which also changes the top surface contour very slightly. However with some extra sanding, a reasonable representation might be achieved. Note that the windscreen of the canopy would look more like an Fw.190. For drawings - treat yourself to a set from Arthur Bentley or buy the excellent book Spriit of Thuringia by Huib Ottens by Classic Publications (which contains them). The Valiant publication on the Ho.229 is decent value for money in respect of its photo content on V1, V2 and V3 but its account of the development of the Ho.229 is woefully inaccurate and the author clearly didn't read the many reference books he lists in the appendix ! In case anyone was wondering what is wrong with Zoukei Mura's two seat conversion pack - it was produced to be an add on to their almost perfect V3 kit. A good commercial decision. In fact the two seater is a development of the V6 and V6 had a TOTALLY different steel tube centre section structure. Zoukei Mura would have had to produce an entirely new kit and commercially thats not viable. The result is that modellers have ben sold a fantasy. The above information is from original documentation and surviving drawings. Paul Thank you Paul. Not a simple conversion of the Revell kit to create a V6 then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mu17 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Col - I don't want to swamp the thread with a Horten discussion, so I've sent you a message with my contact details (might be more than one as its a bit glitchy) Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caughtinthemiddle Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 On 11/7/2020 at 10:46 PM, Mu17 said: Presumably the 1/48 Horten Ho.229 A-1 is the former Dragon kit ? A decent enough model as long as it is substantially cheaper than than the superb Zoukei Mura one. Yes, it is. Accidentally, another company wanted to rebox it and they were told by Dragon that for some period it won't be possible as they have such arrangement with someone else - so now we know this someone else is Revell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mu17 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Thanks for confirming that - it will be interesting to see what Revell price it at. However I have three Dragon and also three 1/48 ZM Ho.229, so I'm not really in need ! Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tomohawk Kid Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 (edited) In a similiar vein, it will be interesting to see if the 1/32 Fi 103 V1 is at a better price point than the Special Hobby original too. Also is too much to hope for it is the hi-tech version as well? Tommo. Edited November 10, 2020 by The Tomohawk Kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tomohawk Kid Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 On 07/11/2020 at 23:37, Thomas V. said: Thank you Revell for not re-issuing Ju 290, Breguet Atlantic, Fw 200, Arado 196, Sabre Dog, Ju G38, Piper Supercub, Alouette II, Sea King, Helldiver etc... when company is led by new age management... Why not wait and see given this is a partial/taster list. Whilst I doubt all those listed will be included in the 2021 release schedule you may yet be pleasantly surprised - who knows? Tommo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRK4m Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 I'm disappointed too... I was dreaming of the 1/72 ZSU-23-4 never released by Toxso to follow the PT-76 of the same origin... Pity... Cheers Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted November 13, 2020 Author Share Posted November 13, 2020 (edited) More news about the 2021 programme - https://www.hannants.co.uk/futurereleases/ V.P. Edited November 13, 2020 by Homebee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 British Airways 767, sceptical given there was meant to be a reissue of the kit this year that has not happened, also should reissue the a330 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 On 07/11/2020 at 23:37, Thomas V. said: Thank you Revell for not re-issuing..... Breguet Atlantic https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/RV3845?result-token=Is9Nm I wonder if the Hawk T2 is an original/revised Revell kit or the Kinetic kit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 1/48th SR71 Blackbird... New Tool..... be still my beating heart......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted November 13, 2020 Author Share Posted November 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, rob said: 1/48th SR71 Blackbird... New Tool..... be still my beating heart......... https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235067176-148-lockheed-sr-71-blackbird-new-tool-by-revell-release-in-2021/ V.P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 On 11/8/2020 at 7:34 PM, Mr T said: Just seen the above post re the Sea Vixen. The decal sheet will be better. ...but unfortunately the shape won't be, the Dragon Sea Vixen is a cartoon of the type, even compared to the ancient Frog version 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas V. Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 10 hours ago, Dave Fleming said: https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/RV3845?result-token=Is9Nm I wonder if the Hawk T2 is an original/revised Revell kit or the Kinetic kit? Kinetic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IT_Man Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Thomas V. said: Kinetic In 1/32? Amendment of Revell T.1? Edited November 13, 2020 by IT_Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas V. Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, IT_Man said: In 1/32? Amendment of Revell T.1? Kinetic, one cannot turn Gen.1 Hawk into essentially its third iteration, T.2 is totally new plane. Edited November 13, 2020 by Thomas V. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr T Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 9 hours ago, 71chally said: ...but unfortunately the shape won't be, the Dragon Sea Vixen is a cartoon of the type, even compared to the ancient Frog version That's why I said the decal sheet will be better. As I recall to add insult to injury, Trumpter produced a colour scheme and decals that were completely at variance with reality. Shame as a new tooled accurate and easy to obtain 1/72nd Sea Vixen would be nice (as would a Javelin and Venom) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted November 14, 2020 Author Share Posted November 14, 2020 Batch 3 V.P. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeronut Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 I'm intrigued as to what to expect from "Sports Plane Builders Choice" Is it a kit of a kitplane kit? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanC Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 It's good to see the 1/76 Sherman Firefly and Puma '[My] First Diorama' sets there - Matchbox armour still going strong almost half a century on. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Lambess Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 20 hours ago, 71chally said: ...but unfortunately the shape won't be, the Dragon Sea Vixen is a cartoon of the type, even compared to the ancient Frog version IMHO it's the better starting point than the dreadfull special hobby and high planes kits ...it's a curates egg to be sure but IS the most accurate in areas such as the thinness of the overwing booms when viewed from above .and the "squared off shape" of the forward fuselage . It has its fair share of stupid errors (reversed naca intakes on the booms) the big problem with the sea vixen kits is most are based on inaccurate DH work and general arrangement drawings ... (yep you read that right .... so the high planes and SH kits match inaccurate drawings ) leading to overley fat booms on other kits which are a nightmare to correct . I'm really happy Revell is issuing the dragon kit . Still a lot of work ... (new radome etc ) Check out the Barons superb work on his 3 d prinred and designed version to see just how different the actual shape of the SV is to the perceived and often innacurate wisdom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABeck Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 I think "RV 3838" is labelled out in the wrong scale. I t will be the overdue 32nd kit (afaik). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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