Hawker P1127 - Airfix 1/72

[hendie]

looks like you are really enjoying this build Ced.  It's certainly getting your creative juices flowing.   Maybe steampunk aircraft is your thing ?

 

 

3 hours ago, CedB said:

if you want a model that looks realistic, you need to 'zoom in' your eyes and correct all the imperfections.

 

when I do that there's normally a wayward toothpick (in)conveniently stuck in a blob of blue-tac waiting for me 

 

[hendie]

double post

 

[CedB]

5 hours ago, perdu said:

Brilliant

 

Er that little pinky, don't you have a grandson you could train up?

 

Just thinking out loud.

 

Where his mom can't hear me...

 

Thanks Bill  

Otto has started smiling and laughing now so my interest has increased.

Might be a bit too young for modelling though… give it another few weeks.

 

4 hours ago, giemme said:

You and I are clearly giving the word "messy" a very different meaning...  

 

Superb job on the inner intake, BTW

As for smoothing Milliput, I did use make up sponge brushes to good effect, they're tiny enough to reach inside those intakes.

 

KUDOS on reworking the flaps,   way to go!

 

Ciao 

Messy for me!  

Thanks Giorgio - I'll give the makeup brushes a try.

 

2 hours ago, hendie said:

looks like you are really enjoying this build Ced.  It's certainly getting your creative juices flowing.   Maybe steampunk aircraft is your thing ?

 

 

 

when I do that there's normally a wayward toothpick (in)conveniently stuck in a blob of blue-tac waiting for me 

 

Thanks hendie  Steampunk? Might be…

 

 

The other intake has been mostly finished:

 

 

… although, as usual, that picture has shown up the faults

 

Ready to try Giorgio's makeup brush trick later:

 

 

Before that, I need to deal with the seams and remove the rivets.

As I've said before, Micromesh is great at removing lumps so:

 

 

Can you see how far I got before the mojo went?

[Biggles87]

I can’t believe that you hadn’t discovered foam make-up brushes ‘til now!

That seat looks good dunnit.

 

John

[perdu]

22 hours ago, CedB said:

Thanks Bill  

Are you WiPing the bus? Can't see one yet.

I am too busy drawing plans, 'the piece here is 10'6" what is that at 1/32? Oh yes it should be...' or 'That radius is 164 mm on the unscaled plan, what shall it be at 1/32 scale?'

 

If I start a vehicle WIP on this yet it will be back at page norty before I can cut plasticard so I wont bother yet.

 

Not to worry I am bound to let it slip when I do, proper publicity shark I am after all.

[CedB]

15 hours ago, Biggles87 said:

I can’t believe that you hadn’t discovered foam make-up brushes ‘til now!

That seat looks good dunnit.

 

John

I know John, I know. Proof that you can teach an old dog new tricks! 

To be honest I had some - just never used them!  

 

21 minutes ago, perdu said:

I am too busy drawing plans, 'the piece here is 10'6" what is that at 1/32? Oh yes it should be...' or 'That radius is 164 mm on the unscaled plan, what shall it be at 1/32 scale?'

 

If I start a vehicle WIP on this yet it will be back at page norty before I can cut plasticard so I wont bother yet.

 

Not to worry I am bound to let it slip when I do, proper publicity shark I am after all.

Fair enough Bill - I'll watch out for it  

 

 

Foam brushes at the ready:

 

 

I think this is as good as I'm going to get at the moment:

 

 

 

I'll see what it looks like under colour.

 

Meanwhile, sanding and filling continues:

 

[giemme]

You're up for a heck of a lot of sanding, Ced! Nice job with the intakes

Ciao 

 

 

[CedB]

You're right Giorgio - a heck of a lot

 

Using Giorgio's 'dry marker method' for checking the seams:

 

 

It really shows up the faults:

 

 

Darn it.

[Pete in Lincs]

6 hours ago, CedB said:

To be honest I had some - just never used them!

That's what they all say.

Lovely intakes BTW. Smooooth.

Did anyone else notice all those lovely rivets on the Aero Flight P1127?

Countersunk/Flush/Smooth. Every single one of them. What were Airfix thinking?

[perdu]

But Airfix aways used to put rivets on to indicate natural metal.

 

Makes perfect sense to me.

[hendie]

7 hours ago, CedB said:

Using Giorgio's 'dry marker method' for checking the seams:

 

Just make sure you remove every last bit of it when you're done, otherwise it can bleed through the paint for years to come.

 

Nice abrasion action Ced

[giemme]

8 hours ago, hendie said:

 

Just make sure you remove every last bit of it when you're done, otherwise it can bleed through the paint for years to come

Actually,  the good thing about using a white board marker is that it doesn't show through paint - at least the kind I'm using; it's a very generic one, though, I don't see any reasons for being different from what you guys can find.

On the other hand, if you use a permanent marker,  that will show through no matter what

 

Ciao 

[The Spadgent]

You have rivets. I need rivets. That’s 2020’s final poke in the eye. 🤣

Lovely sanding And indeed smoothing Ced. I need one of those pens. 👍

 

Johnny

[CedB]

16 hours ago, Pete in Lincs said:

That's what they all say.

Lovely intakes BTW. Smooooth.

Did anyone else notice all those lovely rivets on the Aero Flight P1127?

Countersunk/Flush/Smooth. Every single one of them. What were Airfix thinking?

Thanks Pete  

 

9 hours ago, perdu said:

But Airfix aways used to put rivets on to indicate natural metal.

 

Makes perfect sense to me.

Ah ha! Method to their madness then  

 

9 hours ago, hendie said:

 

Just make sure you remove every last bit of it when you're done, otherwise it can bleed through the paint for years to come.

 

Nice abrasion action Ced

Thanks for warning hendie, but…  

 

1 hour ago, giemme said:

Actually,  the good thing about using a white board marker is that it doesn't show through paint - at least the kind I'm using; it's a very generic one, though, I don't see any reasons for being different from what you guys can find.

On the other hand, if you use a permanent marker,  that will show through no matter what

 

Ciao 

It is a whiteboard / 'dry erase' marker so I'm happy!  

 

1 hour ago, The Spadgent said:

You have rivets. I need rivets. That’s 2020’s final poke in the eye. 🤣

Lovely sanding And indeed smoothing Ced. I need one of those pens. 👍

 

Johnny

Oh darn it, sorry Johnny, I've thrown them away  

I should have done my normal 'read BM before progress' - stops me doing something and then reading a 'don't do that' comment.

 

 

Final pass for errand rivets:

 

 

I couldn't find the main gear leg so looked in the spares box. The SHAR parts were on top:

 

 

 

I think this will do, although I guess it was strengthened for carrier landings so may need a chop here and there.
I'll check on the Prime Portal walk around.

Wheels need touching up too.

 

I have noticed a couple of things on there.

The outriggers have clear nav lights on the very tip.

There are two strakes on the underside. Rats.

They show quite clearly on the photos and on Nick Greenall's 1/48 build which has plans.

 

I think I'm ready to do those things, then assemble the main parts and prime.

 

[Brandy]

It looks as though the rivets would provide enough plastic dust to make goop for the seams! Nice work so far Ced!

 

Ian

[CedB]

Thanks Ian  

 

 

Strakes.

Dymo tape for guidelines:

 

 

What was the hardest bit of that?

Getting the tape lined up?

Making sure it was in the right place?

Nope.

Getting the blasted backing tape off the Dymo!

Fiddly.

 

Slots chiselled:

 

 

Strip glued at the front:

 

 

I'll glue the back down when that's dry.

[CedB]

Back glued down:

 

 

Wings on:

 

 

Filler at the ready!

[giemme]

Sweet!  And fast, too

 

Ciao

[keefr22]

Nice work Ced!

 

K

[roginoz]

Coming up a treat, @CedB, the mojo has been restored and all's well with the world.

 A great job on the intakes !

Rog

 

[perdu]

Better, way better than excellent already Ced.

 

Will you be OK with the Harrier main leg ( damn another missing piece, really sorry Ced) or can you wait for me to get upstairs into the den to take a photo alongside a steel rule for size comparison?

About two o'clock.

 

😵 My very bad...

[CedB]

Thanks Giorgio, Keith and Rog  

 

Bill I would appreciate a side shot of the leg if you have time - it'll be a while before I need to scratch it or hack the SHAR one so it'd be a good reference…

From the walk around pictures I think the P1127 was much simpler than later variants?

[perdu]

Wilco guvner

Laters!

[CedB]

Thanks Bill, you're a star!  

 

 

Wing roots attacked with a riffler:

 

 

…and filled with Vallejo:

 

 

People say you can apply this stuff and 'just wipe it with a wet finger' to get a perfect join.

There must be something wrong with my fingers - if I do that the filler comes out.

Who said 'sticky fingers' - cheek!

 

Strakes shaped at the ends:

 

 

Now then, painting.

If I use AK paste (my favourite as you know) I won't need primer.

But it'll be shiny.

Which I can tone down with varnish.

Or maybe I should grey prime first.

Hmmm, I shall ponder.

 

[AliGauld]

27 minutes ago, CedB said:

People say you can apply this stuff and 'just wipe it with a wet finger' to get a perfect join.

There must be something wrong with my fingers - if I do that the filler comes out.

 

 

Hi There,

 

I usually use a damp cotton bud and it works well enough.

 

As, always it's a pleasure to read through one on your builds.

Great work being done here and glad you put that pilot in his place when he was being difficult about being painted.

 

Cheers,

Alistair