CedB Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Having increased my Harrier love during my Falklands Dogfight build I expressed a wish to build more, especially the prototype P1127. Our own @perdu came to the rescue and within days this arrived in the post: Thanks Bill, very much appreciated This is a rare kit, tooled in 1963 and since then only reboxed. So very old Airfix. You know I like a challenge! I can't do the customary shots of the part trees as most parts have been removed: I've checked the parts against the instructions (took about five minutes) and I seem to be missing the starboard outriggers: …and the port retracted one has a wheel missing. Looks like there's some scratch building / molding in my future! I've also been warned about the canopy being to wide: …but this one seems fine so it's been dipped in Aqua Gloss: Looks pretty good. Of course the sixty-plus year old transfers need care: They're in a bag stuck to the window in the hope some of the yellowing will go: Yes, they are hung with the transfers to the sun. Well, what counts as sun at the moment. We'll see what that does over time. Looking forward to this one! 29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Thompson Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 FWIW, whenever I do that with the decals I make sure the bag end that opens faces downwards to prevent any condensation running into it (zip-lock obviously, so that they don't obey gravity). Paul. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamden Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 I'll follow along if you don't mind, I've a soft spot for 1127 ever since I saw the first one displayed at Farnborough. If I remember correctly there is a choice of tail cones and noses depending on period of development you are portraying. Stay safe Roger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Paul Thompson said: FWIW, whenever I do that with the decals I make sure the bag end that opens faces downwards to prevent any condensation running into it (zip-lock obviously, so that they don't obey gravity). Paul. I do that too, and use zip lock backs and sellotape the zip lock up too. Hell of a job getting the decals out again...!! But Ced, how about treating replacement decal sheets as tools and buy some Xtradecal generic sheets....especially as the roundels on that sheet are out of register!! (although I do have to admit thar Xtradecal aren't 100% immune to that problem! ) Keith 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Those decals are so old the centre has started to droop! I'd get some replacements. How can anyone not love the old baggies we grew up with? That doesn't sound right. I do hope I don't get any virtual slaps from other halves! I'm looking forward to this one Ced, carry on! Ian 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 I'm in too, Ced Ciao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Ced tell me soon Will this be on the shelf or on the ceiling? I'm damned certain I'll be able to cobble outriggers for mine so you can have 'em for this. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 (edited) I’ve gotten out of jail with old decals by photocopying them onto inkjet decal paper. Assuming they whiten up. Alternatively scan them, adjust the white balance and then print them. I am of course assuming you have access to a colour printer with scanning capability. I’m sure that if you were to purchase another harrier you could use the spare outriggers. There are so many interesting harrier schemes, a third one wouldn’t go amiss. Edited November 7, 2020 by Marklo 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Outriggers schmoutriggers, they will be advanced to the lad ASAP I do advise replacing the crap transfers Ced 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted November 7, 2020 Author Share Posted November 7, 2020 3 hours ago, Paul Thompson said: FWIW, whenever I do that with the decals I make sure the bag end that opens faces downwards to prevent any condensation running into it (zip-lock obviously, so that they don't obey gravity). Paul. Thanks Paul - great tip and now turned upside down 3 hours ago, Hamden said: I'll follow along if you don't mind, I've a soft spot for 1127 ever since I saw the first one displayed at Farnborough. If I remember correctly there is a choice of tail cones and noses depending on period of development you are portraying. Stay safe Roger Welcome Roger You're right - choices are there. I need to do some more research! 1 hour ago, keefr22 said: I do that too, and use zip lock backs and sellotape the zip lock up too. Hell of a job getting the decals out again...!! But Ced, how about treating replacement decal sheets as tools and buy some Xtradecal generic sheets....especially as the roundels on that sheet are out of register!! (although I do have to admit thar Xtradecal aren't 100% immune to that problem! ) Keith Thanks Keith I think you're right, especially now that… 1 hour ago, Brandy said: Those decals are so old the centre has started to droop! I'd get some replacements. How can anyone not love the old baggies we grew up with? That doesn't sound right. I do hope I don't get any virtual slaps from other halves! I'm looking forward to this one Ced, carry on! Ian … I see they're droopy! Thanks Ian, I'll ponder. 1 hour ago, giemme said: I'm in too, Ced Ciao Welcome Giorgio - I shall try to get close to your jet finish and I'm even thinking about special attention on the missiles. Thinking about it 1 hour ago, perdu said: Ced tell me soon Will this be on the shelf or on the ceiling? I'm damned certain I'll be able to cobble outriggers for mine so you can have 'em for this. 1 hour ago, perdu said: Outriggers schmoutriggers, they will be advanced to the lad ASAP I do advise replacing the crap transfers Ced Thanks Bill It will be on the ceiling, but lower than the others and posed in the hover. Kind of you to offer to send the outriggers but that'll rob your kit and your no doubt better build so let me have a go at scratching the missing one - should be entertaining if nothing else! 1 hour ago, Marklo said: I’ve gotten out of jail with old decals by photocopying them onto inkjet decal paper. Assuming they whiten up. Alternatively scan them, adjust the white balance and then print them. I am of course assuming you have access to a colour printer with scanning capability. I’m sure that if you were to purchase another harrier you could use the spare outriggers. There are so many interesting harrier schemes, a third one wouldn’t go amiss. Thanks Mark - I have the equipment (snurf) so I should be able to knock something up. Thanks 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamden Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Could you not use the outriggers from the SHAR if your doing the 1127 in the hover then the gear will down. As the SHAR is going to be in flight you should have the extended outriggers spare. Stay safe Roger 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davecov Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, CedB said: They're in a bag stuck to the window in the hope some of the yellowing will go: Treat yourself to a UV lamp as used by nail technicians. I had to get one after moving to Scotland where sunlight is in short supply. This is an old single lamp unit that I used to use. I have since upgraded to a four-lamp design: The decals before "treatment" After 24 hours (continual use) I normally leave decals in the unit for a week and the yellowing disappears completely in most cases. The single unit cost me less than a tenner in 2011 but they go for about £15 now although the bigger four-lamp unit I bought will cost about £25 today on eBay. Dave Edited November 7, 2020 by davecov Changed "twin-lamp" to "four-lamp". 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted November 7, 2020 Author Share Posted November 7, 2020 34 minutes ago, Hamden said: Could you not use the outriggers from the SHAR if your doing the 1127 in the hover then the gear will down. As the SHAR is going to be in flight you should have the extended outriggers spare. Stay safe Roger Thanks Roger Good idea, but they're not quite the same: The SHAR outriggers look beefier and they mount slightly inboard of the wingtips whereas the P has them right on the end. I should be able to scratch them though - he said confidently! 16 minutes ago, davecov said: Treat yourself to a UV lamp as used by nail technicians. I had to get one after moving to Scotland where sunlight is in short supply. This is an old single lamp unit that I used to use. I have since upgraded to a twin-lamp design: The decals before "treatment" After 24 hours (continual use) I normally leave decals in the unit for a week and the yellowing disappears completely in most cases. The single unit cost me less than a tenner in 2011 but they go for about £15 now although the bigger twin-lamp unit I bought will cost about £25 today on eBay. Dave Oooh, a new tool! That looks great Dave and I've added it to my wish list - it'll come in handy too if ever I get around to making my own PE. One day… 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 OK Ced have fun and remember these are here if you want copies cast from these 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandie Dinmont Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Ooh, another Ced build. Looks like more of a mojo test than the dogfight double.Looking forward to this! Craig. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spadgent Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Another harrier. ❤️❤️❤️❤️ And and oldie too. Are you trying to force my next build Mr B. 🤩🤪 I’ll pull up a chair if that’s ok. Johnny. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy G Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 I remember building one of these as a kid and have been looking for one for a couple of years. Really looking forward to watching you build this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruskin Air Services Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 When I worked for games workshop plastics the moulding factory they took over had obviously been subbing for Airfix as on the roof of the offices in the factory I found a box with various kits in one of these was a p1127 the rest were plastic mouldings of dinky cars chassis and bodies one if I remember was kojaks police car 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitsticker Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Hi Ced and all Maybe I joined on page 1? That'll be a first! Anyway, glad to be here, looking forward to how this develops I seem to remember an early Harrier in my builds, an absolute b@gger to get the swivelling jet outlets sorted (they were all connected by an internal linkage that was a sod to arrange) I was young and foolish.... Now I'm older and foolish, ho hum This will be a cracker.....like all of Ced's builds Best regards Geoff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gondor44 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Hope I am not late! Have a fondness for these early birds so will follow if you don't mind Gondor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendie Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 puff puff gasp gasp [draws breath].... made it. Page 1! now where's that usherette with the kia-ora? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry1954 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 I'm here too in time for page 1 I hope! - is it me or did the BM upgrade lose the little post numbering system? Great choice Ced. They are pretty rare to find it seems unless you are prepared to part with big bucks. Always fancied doing a Kestrel. Must put that on the wishlist. Terry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete in Lincs Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 21 minutes ago, hendie said: now where's that usherette with the kia-ora? F'nar! (Had to be done) You may have to explain this one to the younger viewers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 29 minutes ago, Pete in Lincs said: F'nar! (Had to be done) You may have to explain this one to the younger viewers. And the foreigners Ciao 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendie Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 obviously, this particular usherette will not be allowed to sell Kia-Ora in X-Rated movies.... 2 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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