modelling minion Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Dave you're doing a great job on this pig of a kit, keep at it mate as I'm sure you will have a stunning model in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveJL Posted November 27, 2020 Author Share Posted November 27, 2020 2 hours ago, modelling minion said: Dave you're doing a great job on this pig of a kit, keep at it mate as I'm sure you will have a stunning model in the end. Thanks mate. It’s going to be a lot of work! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Does this help at all Dave? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveJL Posted November 28, 2020 Author Share Posted November 28, 2020 15 hours ago, Col. said: Does this help at all Dave? It does mate, thanks very much, exactly what I needed! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveJL Posted December 1, 2020 Author Share Posted December 1, 2020 Back at the bench for a few hours today. I firstly did some prep work and painting on the Typhoon. The cockpit area was given a tidy up spray of black, as was the framing. Once dry it was masked off in preparation for primer: I'm expecting a few areas, especially around the wing join, to need a further clean up once the primer coat is on. Anyway, various sub assemblies have been primed and I was able to finish the seat: I was able to pick up a reference book in Amazon's Black Friday sales: It's fairly well detailed with close ups and walk around pictures. Very handy indeed and not bad for less than £15. That's the end of the good news I'm afraid, now onto the promised tales of woe which almost had me reaching for a few cans of Guinness at 1130am. You guessed it, the Tornado has brought more gifts. Firstly, on a positive note, the clean up of the fuselage filler was completed. There is lots of it and lots of cleaning was needed. I had a peek at the inside of the intakes and gasped. They're awful. I think I've decided that I don't have the emotional strength to try and clean them up and FOD covers are the way forward. Clean up done, looking better. I'll fit the tail fin. Easy job says I. No. No it wasn't Horrible gap at the front and towards the back. No matter what I did, it just wouldn't sit. More work needed. I'm surprised that I'm surprised. At least the underside looks ok: Canopy framing was sprayed black in my attempt to achieve something with it today: How we're sitting at the minute: I'll be dreaming about that Tornado tonight no doubt. The missus will be delighted. More soon and stay safe Dave 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 I am really sorry to see that you are having such issues with your Tonka Dave, she really is putting up a fight isn't she. The Typhoon is coming on very nicely though, you got a good price on the book too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveJL Posted December 1, 2020 Author Share Posted December 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, modelling minion said: I am really sorry to see that you are having such issues with your Tonka Dave, she really is putting up a fight isn't she. The Typhoon is coming on very nicely though, you got a good price on the book too. Not your fault mate! I know the kit isn't the best from the reviews I've read but wasn't expecting it to be this much of a fight. I'm hoping the fin will be the last major work that needs done (I say that with fingers firmly crossed). I'll be glad when it's done but will know it will take its rightful place with my RAF models! The Typhoon is a bit of pain in some areas but easy to fix! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Regarding the fin I had similar issues on the F3, but not the IDS.... I removed a bit of material on the rear notch.... then it was suddenly fine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andwil Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Plenty of tales of woe with a Revell Tornados over on the Tornado Warning GB, so you are definitely no orphan with this difficult kit. I’m sure you will beat it into submission though. AW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
At Sea Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Good work! It's an interesting kit for sure. I have wrestled a few, and to be honest it takes about 4 or 5 to get your eye in! 3 of mine have gone in the bin in total now, they were completed and put in the display cabinet, but now I have sussed how to actually get one together relatively seam free they looked awful in comparison. Well done for persevering and I can highly recommend this method for any subsequent construction of one of these, works for the IDS and F3 and GR4: 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveJL Posted December 2, 2020 Author Share Posted December 2, 2020 13 hours ago, exdraken said: Regarding the fin I had similar issues on the F3, but not the IDS.... I removed a bit of material on the rear notch.... then it was suddenly fine! Tried that Werner and the rear is a perfect fit! 13 hours ago, Andwil said: Plenty of tales of woe with a Revell Tornados over on the Tornado Warning GB, so you are definitely no orphan with this difficult kit. I’m sure you will beat it into submission though. AW Thanks mate. I’ve seen some great builds of it so hopefully it will look semi decent when it’s done. 2 hours ago, At Sea said: Good work! It's an interesting kit for sure. I have wrestled a few, and to be honest it takes about 4 or 5 to get your eye in! 3 of mine have gone in the bin in total now, they were completed and put in the display cabinet, but now I have sussed how to actually get one together relatively seam free they looked awful in comparison. Well done for persevering and I can highly recommend this method for any subsequent construction of one of these, works for the IDS and F3 and GR4: Thanks mate, I’ll try that method if I ever build the others in the stash! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveJL Posted December 4, 2020 Author Share Posted December 4, 2020 A bit more progress on the Tornado. The majority of the filler around the fin has been cleaned up, just a few tidy up spots left. I sprayed and permanently fixed in the engines as this gives some stability to the area. Once set, I fiddled with and eventually fitted the forward fuselage. I had to remove the nose cone for this as the long part that makes up the lower part of the front fuselage did not want to fit, requiring me to flex the fuselage halves. A pain in the backside, but at least it now looks like a Tornado: Again, there appears to be a bit of the actual mould of the plastic missing: Plenty of cleaning up around this area now required. Surprised that I'm surprised? I've primed most of the Typhoon with one or two small clean ups needed. I've also started painting the sub assemblies, but will have more to show on those over the weekend. I did add the Eduard etch to the inside of the outer MLG doors. Looks well: More soon. Dave 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Good work getting it Tornado-shaped Dave as many have given up on this kit long before that stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveJL Posted December 4, 2020 Author Share Posted December 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Col. said: Good work getting it Tornado-shaped Dave as many have given up on this kit long before that stage. Thanks mate. I always liked the F.3 so I won't give up that easily even though I've felt like launching it out of the window on more than one occasion! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 Col is right Dave, you have got much further than a lot of us (myself included) with this kit. The green filler shows just how much work you have had to put in on getting it this far, a modern tooled kit should never be like this. You're actually not that far off getting some paint on her, you can start to relax then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveJL Posted December 5, 2020 Author Share Posted December 5, 2020 3 hours ago, modelling minion said: Col is right Dave, you have got much further than a lot of us (myself included) with this kit. The green filler shows just how much work you have had to put in on getting it this far, a modern tooled kit should never be like this. You're actually not that far off getting some paint on her, you can start to relax then. Thanks mate. The trusty Squadron green doesn't look the tidiest but as you say, shows how much correction work has been needed. Not Revell's finest moment I feel. A lot more tidy up is needed before priming. I'm hoping to have at least the painting done this side of Christmas. You can see from the picture below the work ahead: Then of course there's various sub assemblies etc that will need to be assembled and fitted. I have a sense of foreboding with the landing gear for some reason Onto the Typhoon, I was able to paint, weather and decal, where necessary, the majority of the sub assemblies over the last 2 days. FOD covers: Exhausts - painted in MRP Steel, with details picked out in Tamiya X-10 Gun Metal, before some oils and dry brushing: Pylons and fuel tanks. A few of the decals on the latter silvered for some reason despite me using Mr Setter solutions. I'll have to live with it. Some oils were applied as I wanted the tanks to be a bit grimy, whilst the rest of the aircraft will be relatively clean: Finally, the missiles: There isn't much in the way of details on either of them so the wash didn't really do much. Hoping to get the Typhoon pre-shaded in the morning and if the light is good enough, to save me from going grey blind, I'll maybe be able to get the paint on. Will play that one by ear! More soon. Dave 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 Tidy work again on both projects Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveJL Posted December 5, 2020 Author Share Posted December 5, 2020 50 minutes ago, Col. said: Tidy work again on both projects Dave Thanks mate. The slog on the Tornado will continue for some time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveJL Posted December 6, 2020 Author Share Posted December 6, 2020 A fairly beefy update today, bear with me! Firstly, the Typhoon was pre-shaded last night. As the sun was rising this morning and with the coffee machine on (I refuse to let Revell dictate my morning coffee routine ) I sprayed and detailed the landing gear bays: Once dry and the coffee savoured, I masked up the landing gear bays then went all in and sprayed the Camouflage Grey. A few light coats was all that was needed. The joy of working with MRP is that it's dry within minutes. I didn't tempt fate however and left an hour between the overall grey and masking up the nose etc. ZK306 has quite a defined nose cone as you can see here. So I added a drop of flat earth to some Medium Sea Grey. Below is the result: Happy with that! A few other areas were detailed so now I just need to spray the metallic areas at the rear before gloss and decals. In addition to the painting, I was looking at my references and own photos taken at Lossiemouth and I noticed that the fuel tanks have red circles on them. I had used the low-viz grey ones but since Revell also provide the red ones, I removed the grey and added the red after another coat of gloss. Not as much silvering this time either: While all this was going on, I was slowly plodding away at the torment, sorry, Tornado, in the background. Sanding, sanding and sanding. Clean up, clean up and clean up...but.... I think maybe, just maybe, I'm there: Amazingly, all that sanding hasn't actually removed too much detail. A few areas will need a re-scribe, but not as much as one would have expected with such a volume of filling and sanding undertaken. I also had a poke at the intakes and they're maybe not as bad as I'd first feared. I'll see what they're like under a coat of primer before I commit to the FOD covers. Close of play this evening: Getting there! More soon and stay safe Dave 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 That really is very nice work Dave, the paint work on your Typhoon is superb, giving a used look but not over used. And the dreaded Tornado is looking really good, looks like you have finally beaten it into shape, very well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveJL Posted December 6, 2020 Author Share Posted December 6, 2020 16 minutes ago, modelling minion said: That really is very nice work Dave, the paint work on your Typhoon is superb, giving a used look but not over used. And the dreaded Tornado is looking really good, looks like you have finally beaten it into shape, very well done. Cheers mate! I was worried the Typhoon may look a bit too worn when I did the pre-shading but think it looks fairly decent! As for the Tornado, I think I may have physically celebrated when I got to the stage shown above, receiving a bemused look from the dog who had wondered into the workroom to see what all the fuss was about! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coneheadff Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Great progress Dave! When looking at those kits one can't believe Revell's downfall compared to their great F-15E kit. You're really a brave man Dave to tackle both at the same time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveJL Posted December 6, 2020 Author Share Posted December 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, coneheadff said: Great progress Dave! When looking at those kits one can't believe Revell's downfall compared to their great F-15E kit. You're really a brave man Dave to tackle both at the same time. Thanks Alex! I was thinking the same about the kits. Their Rafale series are lovely models to build and I remember, years ago, building their rather wonderful 1/72 F-16 Block 50/52. I've heard good things about their 1/72 Shackleton but looks to be more misses than hits unfortunately. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coneheadff Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 From what I have heard is that Revell is not developing the kits themselves anymore, but rather give the job away to external companies and sell the products. Look at their 1/32 Super Hornet...it could've been a game winner and in the end it had shape issues like a Trumpeter kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveJL Posted December 6, 2020 Author Share Posted December 6, 2020 1 minute ago, coneheadff said: From what I have heard is that Revell is not developing the kits themselves anymore, but rather give the job away to external companies and sell the products. Look at their 1/32 Super Hornet...it could've been a game winner and in the end it had shape issues like a Trumpeter kit. I wasn't aware of that. I'll just have to manage with the Revell Tyhoons as I've several RAF and Luftwaffe example planned I haven't seen or read up on the Hornet as it's not my scale so can't comment. If it's as tricky to put together as the Tornado it'll be a right sod! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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