Stickframe Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 Hi Ron, Please post some WIP images of the rear wing. Can you save some of the kit parts? or will it be all scratch? I'm always interested in seeing how people shape styrene to get complex or compound curves, plus I'm gueesing you'll have some thin pieces of metal and rivets/bolts too! This will be great! Cheers Nick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver911 Posted July 6, 2021 Author Share Posted July 6, 2021 3 hours ago, Stickframe said: Hi Ron, Please post some WIP images of the rear wing. Can you save some of the kit parts? or will it be all scratch? I'm always interested in seeing how people shape styrene to get complex or compound curves, plus I'm gueesing you'll have some thin pieces of metal and rivets/bolts too! This will be great! Cheers Nick Hi Nick, I will certainly create a WIP of the wing if it helps others. I need to lay out all the parts I have...kit wing and end plates (plastic)...PE end plates/fixing plates and stays etc. (nickel silver). My hope is to use the kit wing body + PE stays and fixings...although the PE end plates have etched rivets...which won't show up once painted...and as previously discussed...being nickel silver...are an absolute nightmare to drill for metal replacements. If I do have to scratch it...then yes...sheet metal (ali) over plastic ribs would make sense...and I should be able to use the kit part as a profile for creating said ribs. Once I have worked out what needs to be done...I will take some pics and update the thread. Cheers Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver911 Posted July 9, 2021 Author Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) Time for an update...and...as Nick asked so nicely...a short WIP on the rear wing that has been the focus of my attention. Let me first say a big thank you to Malc2 ...again...for his help and advice on this aspect of the build So...first off...the kit parts for the main body of the wing...supplied in the usual Tamiya chrome...which was then removed in a bath of bleach. Whilst the shape is acceptable overall...there are some details missing... Primarily...the missing detail is the dividing line between the upper and lower sections...although there are faint raised ridges representing these lines front and back...they needed scribing into the plastic. I used 3 layers of masking tape on each side...to give me a guide for scribing... With this done...a quick coat of primer was sprayed on...which allowed me to check for faults... Next missing detail...the adjustable 'Gurney' flap. This is indicated on the plastic by another faint raised line...although in the wrong position...it;s a useful guide for the shape needed. I applied masking tape to the wing...then transferred the tape to some thin ali sheet...and kept clamping it to the wing to check position and fit... It took several tries...as you can see... With the size and shape corrected...it now needed the slots for the fixings made. Again I used masking tape to achieve this... Then it was a case of drilling a series of holes...and enlarging/shaping them...and I also added the central weld bead... Then it was a case of adding the securing bolts. I also decided to use the PE plate for the lower centre mount...which needed bending to shape. These were both then weathered/metalised... Next up...the end plates...although I had both the kit parts and PE to choose from...I went with the kit parts...simply because it would be easier for what came next...the rivets! The moulded rivets are barely visible...so they were sanded off in favour of brass replacements. This meant I had to create a template for the new ones...and also make new mounting pins from rivets...because the kit ones were barely 0.5 mm long! My solution was to cover the inside of the end plates in masking tape and...using the new mounting/locating rivets to get the correct position on the main body...I drew around it to give me a template for the holes. Then it was a labour intensive job to slowly drill all the holes... Each drilled end plate was gently held in a vise whilst gluing in the rivets...which ended up looking like a 'hedgehog'!... Lastly...it was a case of cutting the excess off of the rivets...then sanding them flush... This was my primary 1:1 ref...along with Malcs brilliant sketch. The numbers are the areas I have worked...with the two white circles showing the small straps I have yet to make... All these parts are now ready for priming/paint...and I have intentionally left out the two main rivets (mounting pins) on each plate to be able to mount them for this. Hope this gives you an insight into how I did all this. Ron to be continued....... Edited July 10, 2021 by silver911 added text 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codger Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Like every major subassembly, a model-within-a-model. Extremely disciplined work with great attention to reference. Thanks for showing what's involved though doubt many have the patience to dig so deep. You're bringing MFH details to a 'common' Tamiya kit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malc2 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Wow, looks great! Malc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stickframe Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Hi Ron, Thanks very much for posting your process - it's really interesitng and helpful to see! I don't envy the task of "combining" the holes you made to create the adjustable attribute of this! I know - looks easy enough, just drill and then clean out - I'm confident it was less "simple" thank that! 😁 Cheers Nick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octavian Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Ron, Amazing work, as always. I'm continually impressed with your ability to solve these sorts of practical problems and find solutions that are not simply workable, but that look fantastic in the process. Best, Andrew 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbadge Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Great riveting work on ghe side plates and the fin modifications too, wonderful job. Chris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver911 Posted July 10, 2021 Author Share Posted July 10, 2021 16 hours ago, Codger said: Like every major subassembly, a model-within-a-model. Extremely disciplined work with great attention to reference. Thanks for showing what's involved though doubt many have the patience to dig so deep. You're bringing MFH details to a 'common' Tamiya kit. With the ref pic...and Malc's sketch...although time consuming...worth the effort I think Mr C. Your point about MFH detail level...I think maybe it has a little to do with MFH being out of my price range that has driven me to attempt such details 🙃 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver911 Posted July 10, 2021 Author Share Posted July 10, 2021 15 hours ago, Malc2 said: Wow, looks great! Malc. Thanks mate...means a lot Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver911 Posted July 10, 2021 Author Share Posted July 10, 2021 16 hours ago, Stickframe said: Hi Ron, Thanks very much for posting your process - it's really interesitng and helpful to see! I don't envy the task of "combining" the holes you made to create the adjustable attribute of this! I know - looks easy enough, just drill and then clean out - I'm confident it was less "simple" thank that! 😁 Cheers Nick Hi Nick...glad you found the WIP interesting and helpful It certainly wasn't first time right...as the picture of previous attempts shows 🤣 Have also just realised...the two retaining straps at the end also have to be 'slotted' 😱🤬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjfk2002 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 The WIP pics are really helpful. Seeing the work and thought process that goes into your build is insightful and inspiring! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver911 Posted July 10, 2021 Author Share Posted July 10, 2021 17 hours ago, Octavian said: Ron, Amazing work, as always. I'm continually impressed with your ability to solve these sorts of practical problems and find solutions that are not simply workable, but that look fantastic in the process. Best, Andrew Thanks Andrew...problem solving was a part of my everyday working life...and I have always enjoyed a challenge. When it comes to creating the illusion of reality...you can't beat good ref pics...and the invaluable help and advice of other members here. Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver911 Posted July 10, 2021 Author Share Posted July 10, 2021 16 hours ago, bigbadbadge said: Great riveting work on ghe side plates and the fin modifications too, wonderful job. Chris Many thanks Chris IMHO...you can't beat real metal for these kinds of detailing. Fortunately...the kit parts were reasonably close in shape...so having to scratch a whole new wing body wasn't required Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver911 Posted July 10, 2021 Author Share Posted July 10, 2021 1 hour ago, rjfk2002 said: The WIP pics are really helpful. Seeing the work and thought process that goes into your build is insightful and inspiring! Hi Rich, really glad you enjoyed the WIP on the wing...if it helps others...then it's worth the effort Cheers Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redstaff Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Amazing work as usual Ron, thanks for sharing your vast knowledge with us I miss dipping in and out seeing your progress, as work is absolutely manic at the minute, I haven't been anywhere near my bench for over a month now, need to get some spare time on order, will check Amazon and see if they have any in stock 🤣 I thought I could see light at the end of the tunnel the other day, but it was just someone with a torch bringing me more work 🤣🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toftdale Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 If anyone ever needs to restore a real 312T in the future, I'm fairly confident they'll be able to use your model a a reference 😉, as ever thanks for sharing Andy 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver911 Posted July 12, 2021 Author Share Posted July 12, 2021 5 hours ago, Redstaff said: Amazing work as usual Ron, thanks for sharing your vast knowledge with us I miss dipping in and out seeing your progress, as work is absolutely manic at the minute, I haven't been anywhere near my bench for over a month now, need to get some spare time on order, will check Amazon and see if they have any in stock 🤣 I thought I could see light at the end of the tunnel the other day, but it was just someone with a torch bringing me more work 🤣🤣 Great to see ya mate...and better busy than out of work. Always happy to share my knowledge...as others have done with me Hope you get some bench time soon mate. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver911 Posted July 12, 2021 Author Share Posted July 12, 2021 4 hours ago, Toftdale said: If anyone ever needs to restore a real 312T in the future, I'm fairly confident they'll be able to use your model a a reference 😉, as ever thanks for sharing Andy That's a really nice compliment Andy...thank you Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichO Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Ron, I just sort of found your build, being new to vehicles. Your detail work is incredible at this size. ( I wonder what one of my Russian trucks would look like at this scale). keep up the great work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver911 Posted July 13, 2021 Author Share Posted July 13, 2021 5 hours ago, RichO said: Ron, I just sort of found your build, being new to vehicles. Your detail work is incredible at this size. ( I wonder what one of my Russian trucks would look like at this scale). keep up the great work. Hi Rich...glad you found me Any Russian truck at 1/12 would be something to behold mate. Cheers for comment. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver911 Posted July 13, 2021 Author Share Posted July 13, 2021 I have been working on the rear wing area of the build of late...a lot more work (modifications) than I had originally planned to do. First I metalized the PE plates for the wing support and main body...which was done by heating them over a gas burner...dropping them into cooking oil then cold water...with a final buff with 'chrome' powder... The wing support itself has quite a few different aspects which meant it took longer than expected to get where I am with it. Small radiator with fixtures and fittings added...wing mount plates + securing bolts...battery mounted (will add the wiring once in place on gearbox)...control lever and solenoid...2 decals. I still have the brake light and wiring to add...but this is where it's at right now... With the end plates I showed last time now primed ready for paint...it was time to get the main body of the wing done. My preferred method for metalizing is powders...first the wing was primed in grey...then 3 coats of rattle can silver was applied and left to dry for 24 hours. Then the body of the wing was polished with a carbon steel powder using a make up sponge...which I leave for a couple of hours...then buff it with Tamiya 'fine' compound...which removes all the loose micro flakes...and enhances/deepens the surface finish/shine. In the pictures it looks much darker than it actually is...in strong daylight it's much lighter. Once that was done I fixed the 'Gurney' flap in place...and also added the missing end straps and fixings... I will mount the wing to the tail once the end plates are finished and fixed...then fix it to the gearbox...add the battery wiring and the two hoses from the radiator in the wing support...plus the one at the top front of it. Still a fair bit to do on these pieces...but starting to take shape. Ron to be continued....... 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codger Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 WOW - the available light is not doing justice to this brilliant finish work. If the sun ever shines in the UK, please go outside for those few minutes and shoot some pics. I wager it will be indistinguishable from your reference shots. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver911 Posted July 13, 2021 Author Share Posted July 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Codger said: WOW - the available light is not doing justice to this brilliant finish work. If the sun ever shines in the UK, please go outside for those few minutes and shoot some pics. I wager it will be indistinguishable from your reference shots. As it happens it's forecast for plenty of sun 2moro Mr C...so will do some pics outdoors for you Cheers Ron 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pg265 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Hi, Awesome work on the rear end and rear wing! Simply awesome Ron! Pascal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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