Troy Smith Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 15 minutes ago, 28ZComeback said: Did the North Koreans paint nation insignia on the top of the wings? AFAIK, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted November 4, 2020 Author Share Posted November 4, 2020 (edited) Some more pictures from the roughly assembled model - without landing gear parts - on display at The Military Museum of The Chinese People’s Revolution shop. Source: https://tieba.baidu.com/p/7045948217?pn=2 V.P. Edited November 4, 2020 by Homebee 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted November 4, 2020 Author Share Posted November 4, 2020 (edited) Thanks 94Lipo ! The first sprues & parts pics Source: http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index.php?/topic/315206-148-mig-15-fagot-by-bronco-models-released/&do=findComment&comment=3026332 V.P. Edited November 4, 2020 by Homebee 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Esposito Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Looks kinda "trumpeter ish" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilh Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 I am building the Trumpeter Mig 15 UTI at present and looking at the sprue images, particularly the lower port wing, all the engraved detail is identical. The upper wing also has one moulded fence and a slot and tab for the other. The moulding of the wing attachment on the fuselage also looks identical. Looks very much like a re box in that case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Wilson Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 8 minutes ago, neilh said: I am building the Trumpeter Mig 15 UTI at present and looking at the sprue images, particularly the lower port wing, all the engraved detail is identical. The upper wing also has one moulded fence and a slot and tab for the other. The moulding of the wing attachment on the fuselage also looks identical. Looks very much like a re box in that case. I thought both the Trumpeter and Tamiya single-seater kits had a fuselage broken in the middle, to allow you to show the engine. The sprue image above shows a conventional right/left fuselage mould without a break. Could be a partial retool? Regards, Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted November 4, 2020 Author Share Posted November 4, 2020 (edited) Trumpeter - ref. 02805 - Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-15UTI "Midget" - link Trumpeter - ref. 02806 - Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-15bis "Fagot-B" - link Have a look at the Trumpeter 1/48th MiG-15bis kit sprues here: https://www.super-hobby.com/products/Mikoyan-Gurevich-MiG-15-bis-Fagot-B.html Definitely different IMO . How could they be fundamentally different? Never forget the Bronco Models and the Trumpeter kits are supposed to reproduce the same type of aircraft. For having tried to assemble the Trumpeter kit some years ago I can say it's a PITA ! V.P. Edited November 4, 2020 by Homebee 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold55 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 (edited) They may have taken a similar approach in certain areas but the sprues are different. This is good news to me as I have wanted to add the Mig-15 to my collection but decided to pass on the Trumpy thinking at some point Eduard would release one. But this might be a great choice. I will wait for some reviews but this is good news to me! Edited November 6, 2020 by Harold55 Sp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilh Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 16 hours ago, Jeff Wilson said: I thought both the Trumpeter and Tamiya single-seater kits had a fuselage broken in the middle, to allow you to show the engine. The sprue image above shows a conventional right/left fuselage mould without a break. Could be a partial retool? Regards, Jeff Doh! How did I miss that? You are right, certainly the Trumpeter one I am building has the joint to display the engine ( and as someone has already commented, what a pain that joint was - as are most of the other ones in that kit). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUCIANO007 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Looks more like a toy to me... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilh Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 I think that's because the built up example is not very built and the photo's are not that sharp either. As already mentioned it's very much like the level of detail of the Trumpeter kit, perhaps without the engine , frame and other rear end internals since, as I did not spot earlier in the thread, the fuselage is full length each side). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCZ Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Nice... Maybe i one buy, Eduard MiG-15 in quater scale isn´t actual yet, Tamiya is total wrong and Trumpy is Trumpy. This look good and buildable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted November 9, 2020 Author Share Posted November 9, 2020 (edited) Some more fresh news about the standard boxings. Source: https://tieba.baidu.com/p/7077503809 - ref. FB4013 - Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-15bis "Fagot-B" - Korean War - ref. FB4014 - Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-15 "Fagot-A" - Korean War Details & schemes An the first critics... http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index.php?/topic/315206-148-mikoyan-gurevich-mig-15-mig-15bis-fagot-by-bronco-models-released/&do=findComment&comment=3026761 To sum up, here's the main problem: V.P. Edited November 10, 2020 by Homebee 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCZ Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 So.... i wait few years on to Eduard MiG-15. Czech are "MiG" positive and heavy "MiG Fanatics". MiG-21 in both scale was best "21" on market, small scale MiG-15 is too accurate with accurate shapes and differences between early MiG-15 and MiG-15Bis... In Czech Republic is based an flyable warbird too (MiG-15UTi) and Czechoslovakian MiG-15 SB ( Stíhací bombardér - Fighter/Bomber) was used in early ´80 as light attacker ! So, when you can accurate MiG-15 in all versions and sub-versions in quarter scale wait for Eduard.... I think a MiG-15 in quarter scale is cursed.... But it is a ironic - in PLR must have thousands real MiG-15 in museum...and their not replicated it into accurate kit without flaws ? So... i wait for "Ed"... And maybe bought (i can´t price tag) an MiG-15Bis from Bronco... (It looks accurate as early MiG-15). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted November 9, 2020 Author Share Posted November 9, 2020 (edited) Sprues & decals (FB4014). Source: http://www.moxingfans.com/test/BRONCO/2020/1109/8410.html V.P. Edited November 9, 2020 by Homebee 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted November 9, 2020 Author Share Posted November 9, 2020 (edited) Instructions - ref. FB4014. Source: http://www.moxingfans.com/test/BRONCO/2020/1109/8410_4.html V.P. Edited November 9, 2020 by Homebee 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted November 9, 2020 Author Share Posted November 9, 2020 Some sprues details pics here: http://www.moxingfans.com/test/BRONCO/2020/1109/8410_2.html http://www.moxingfans.com/test/BRONCO/2020/1109/8410_3.html V.P. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flankerman Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 52 minutes ago, AlCZ said: But it is a ironic - in PLR must have thousands real MiG-15 in museum...and their not replicated it into accurate kit without flaws ? You are not wrong....... Take a look over on ARC at Gabor's comments on the weird double curvature at the wing root trailing edge..... (scroll down about half-way).... http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index.php?/topic/315206-148-mikoyan-gurevich-mig-15-mig-15bis-fagot-by-bronco-models-released/page/2/#comments Ken 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCZ Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Yes, i reacted on Gabor. Huh... this is impressive ! So in this sight is any innacurate kit of MiG-15 a bitter irony ! When you have really thousands MiG's in deposit and probably unlimited funds, when you can' t develop an accurate kit of this important and iconic 2rd. Gen jet-fighter ? When Bronco have a accurate early stage and late (Bis)Fagot... so what he have strange curve on fuselage and totally inaccurate kit of early MiG 15 ? Yes, Eduard make better MiG-15 series, but in future. Sabre is in good quality (and now coming an Airfix offer) do why not a enemy - MiG-15 ? It is sad... i can many years 1/48 MiG-15 in my collection, but when all kits are off... So i can build a small scale from Eddie. But quarter scale is most attractive for me... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 (edited) On 10/11/2020 at 01:30, AlCZ said: (...) Sabre is in good quality (and now coming an Airfix offer) do why not a enemy - MiG-15 ? (...) A new tool N.A. F-86F-30 Sabre (ref. FB4011) is also in the Bronco Models pipeline. https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235059154-148-north-american-f-86f-30-sabre-by-bronco-models-release-in-2020-2021/ Rather logical after the Korean War F-51D Mustang (ref. FB4012) and MiG-15/bis "Fagot" (ref. FB4013 & FB4014) isn't it? The MiG-15 ref. FB4014 is now proposed on ebay: link By the way: MiG-15 vs MiG-15bis Source: https://www.facebook.com/mushroomModelPublications/photos/a.235811206448168/4081782945184289 V.P. Edited November 13, 2020 by Homebee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modelraynz Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Damn...now ive seen that wing double curve i can't unsee it!! 😆 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 7 hours ago, AlCZ said: When Bronco have a accurate early stage and late (Bis)Fagot... so what he have strange curve on fuselage and totally inaccurate kit of early MiG 15 ? Is it really that bad? The extra curve, which looks quite gentle to my eyes (and interpretation) can be corrected with a rescribe and a little bit of filler. It looks like the kit has made the wing to fuselage fairing narrow too much (top and underside) as it travels aft, which has resulted in that pinched shape against the fuselage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 ...and here some alternative markings for the new MiG-15bis: 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilh Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 That wing root fillet is exactly the same as the one on the Trumpeter Mig -15 UTI that I am building at the moment. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew1974 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 The mistake with the wing root is not something that would particularly bother me about a kit, but I appreciate the opinions of others on the subject. It is nice to see Bronco using relatively recent PRC history to promote modeling and thus hopefully draw new folks into the hobby. I spent many years in both the Republic of Korea and Japan over a 25 year period and as the middle class grew, so too did the interest in our hobby. Given the PRC’s immense population and ever growing middle class one can hope that our hobby will grow accordingly! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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