Bozothenutter Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Semi lockdown has my ADHD all over the place, found myself wandering out of the shop with this beast.....(only went in for some paint...🤷🏾♂️) Ordered some books off Amazon, googled to the ends of the internet and am thoroughly enjoying the research! (tbh I seem to enjoy the research most, any research really..... To stop my rambling....and get to the point... Any pointers to good details of the torpedo tube rear ends? Any commonality with U-boot types? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europapete Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Never enough Schellboots in my opinion. Which kit and scale? Then we can point you to the right details. Also, which particular boat are you going to model? they were all a little different. Regards, Pete in RI 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozothenutter Posted October 25, 2020 Author Share Posted October 25, 2020 See!?, what makes sense in your head, doesn't always to others.... Italeri S-38 Really leaning towards the camouflaged Baltic boats, but if there is an interesting Ijmuiden (ie Dutch based) I'll consider it seriously. Like I said, still at the start of my journey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europapete Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 kk, will dig out some refs. 1/35th scale I presume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozothenutter Posted October 25, 2020 Author Share Posted October 25, 2020 Yeah, 99cm's of 1/35 ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europapete Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Ok, first off, where in the world are you? then I can point you to the best suppliers in your area. Here is a short list of good stuff; The Modelling News - Kit review. Britmodeller.com - build log by wardsmodeller 8-19-18 maritime section, works in progress Eduard.com Photo Etch parts. For the S38, sets 53212, 53213, 53214 For the S100 (which might contain useful parts) BIG5306 or individual sets 53038, 53039 Master barrels MRSM3503 Mastercasters MST35005 Oval dinghy MST35009 Gunshield Aerobonus (Aires) QAB350001 to QAB350014 Crew figures Squadron/Signal Books 4018 Schnellboot in Action ISBN 0-89747-457-0 14035 Schnellboot in Action ISBN 978-0-89747-660-7 Shipcraft books German S-Boats Steve Wiper 2006 ISBN 978-18617-627-88 German S-boats in Action Hans Frank 2007 Seaforth Publishing ISBN 978-1-84415-7167 Before buying any books, check with your local library to see if they can order them for you, saves a few $$. All the camo'd boats in the photo's in my books are from the Baltic, Norway, or Med. The Dutch coast boats were all SBW / Grey. HTH's, Regards, Pete in RI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozothenutter Posted October 26, 2020 Author Share Posted October 26, 2020 well @europapete, I think I found a lot of the things you mentioned! The Modelling News - Kit review. Britmodeller.com - build log by wardsmodeller 8-19-18 maritime section, works in progress Eduard.com Photo Etch parts. For the S38, sets 53212, 53213, 53214 (not sure about a steel flag tbh) For the S100 (which might contain useful parts) BIG5306 or individual sets 53038, 53039 (had a good look at the instructions for both sets, couldn't really spot a difference. Anything in particular?) Master barrels MRSM3503 Mastercasters MST35005 Oval dinghy (not found this yet) MST35009 Gunshield (Eduard set has a PE shield) Aerobonus (Aires) QAB350001 to QAB350014 Crew figures (undecided on crew yet..) Squadron/Signal Books 4018 Schnellboot in Action ISBN 0-89747-457-0 (14035 coming in, any advantage in having the earlier version?) 14035 Schnellboot in Action ISBN 978-0-89747-660-7 Shipcraft books German S-Boats Steve Wiper 2006 ISBN 978-18617-627-88 German S-boats in Action Hans Frank 2007 Seaforth Publishing ISBN 978-1-84415-7167 in addition, I have the books below coming in, prefer owning books.....bit of a hoarder I am.... Seaforth Publishing: Schnellboote, a complete operational history ISBN-13 : 978-1848320833 Kagero: Schnellboot. Type S-38 and S-100 (Super Drawings in 3D) ISBN-13 : 978-8365437716 I also ordered a PE set for a Italeri bofors, hoping it is the same plastic. and some Master empty and loaded cartridges to fill the various baskets with. Some AFV club EMC mines Really insane looking Aber Flak30 magazines missed out on the kitchen sink though....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozothenutter Posted October 26, 2020 Author Share Posted October 26, 2020 Perusing S-boot.net last night. can only find one baltic boat amongs the S38 class...I think most went to the Black Sea at least that is where they were lost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europapete Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 ah,oops, sorry, I must have lumped together the Baltic and Black Sea boats. So much for my geography lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozothenutter Posted October 26, 2020 Author Share Posted October 26, 2020 9 minutes ago, europapete said: ah,oops, sorry, I must have lumped together the Baltic and Black Sea boats. So much for my geography lol. no worries, I had to google it...... info on that site is not very structured though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozothenutter Posted October 27, 2020 Author Share Posted October 27, 2020 Well, don't get this one... Kagero: Schnellboot. Type S-38 and S-100 (Super Drawings in 3D) ISBN-13 : 978-8365437716 low detail 3D renders of the S-38b end S-100 ie boats with the 'kalotte' only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europapete Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Hhmm....thanks for the heads up. One advantage of getting reference books through the library is that one can "preview" them first for free, and if they are good, then go out and buy. Regards, Pete in RI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozothenutter Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 Live and learn.....nothing wrong with 3D stuff if it's well done and has lots of detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozothenutter Posted November 4, 2020 Author Share Posted November 4, 2020 anybody know what the insides of the hull sides next to the torpedo tubes looked like? I'm messing with stuff I shouldn't again... left the kit parts, right homebrew..... working off the rivet lines. The ribs will get strips added on one side, as it looks to me they used L profiles. not the best pic to work from....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozothenutter Posted November 5, 2020 Author Share Posted November 5, 2020 aaaaaaaannnnnnnd then I read the instructions properly and see I need to remove the top as well! 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefy66 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 On 11/4/2020 at 12:38 PM, Bozothenutter said: anybody know what the insides of the hull sides next to the torpedo tubes looked like? You might want took at the Wheatcroft restoration of S130 some photos on there of the stripped out interior beefy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozothenutter Posted November 5, 2020 Author Share Posted November 5, 2020 Have most of their pics in small size....but that boat was quite modded and by the time Tom got hold of it, it was in quite a sorry state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arjan Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Hi, my guess is that the ribs had a triangular base at deck level. At least, this was the case with later Schnellboot versions and is a common practice in boat building. Personally I wouldn't be bothered with details that are not in view anyway. Groet, Arjan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozothenutter Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 9 hours ago, Arjan said: Hi, my guess is that the ribs had a triangular base at deck level. At least, this was the case with later Schnellboot versions and is a common practice in boat building. Personally I wouldn't be bothered with details that are not in view anyway. Groet, Arjan Good catch! Must have seen that pic umphteen times! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozothenutter Posted November 14, 2020 Author Share Posted November 14, 2020 More 'inside' information required..... What did the inside of the torpedo tube look like? The kit has some 'strakes' that look like they were to impart a twisting motion to the torpedo. From U-Boot pics I have seen what looks like straight wood planks running fore-aft. Anybody in the know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozothenutter Posted November 14, 2020 Author Share Posted November 14, 2020 More 'inside' information required..... What did the inside of the torpedo tube look like? The kit has some 'strakes' that look like they were to impart a twisting motion to the torpedo. From U-Boot pics I have seen what looks like straight wood planks running fore-aft. Anybody in the know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arjan Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Hi, I guess these strakes were spacers to reduce the contact surface between torpedo and inner tube walls. Less contact means less friction. Certainly not intended to make the torpedo spin, after all torpedoes had rudders to keep them running straight. Steve Wiper's booklet page 48 has a pic showing these strakes. Two more pics : I've also started work on the Italeri kit in question. I'm going to make an rc version like my previous S-100. I've just ordered the hardware in China so it will be some time before I receive all the necessary parts. Groet, Arjan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozothenutter Posted November 15, 2020 Author Share Posted November 15, 2020 (edited) Thanks, I knew about the friction thing, I was just wondering about the angle and the length. Nice pics btw, I get the feeling there is a book or two I'm missing Edited November 15, 2020 by Bozothenutter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozothenutter Posted November 15, 2020 Author Share Posted November 15, 2020 found the answer! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arjan Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 That's an interesting pic, seems likely that any wooden slats that may have been present have disintegrated over the years. On second thought I think the slats were only present at the end section of the tube. This section widens out to an oval shape. I think the end section was blown off by the blast in this pic : Another image showing the oval end section : Arjan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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