Tim Moff Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) Well I thought I'd best join now the #BoB80 build is drawing to a close. I over extended a bit on that with lockdown, working from home so no commute etc, a couple of builds not finished and I have 2 helicopter builds still to get done on the next KUTA build. So lesson learned, I will do 2 builds, starting with this, pretty much OOB with crew from elsewhere. I am looking at what subject, I may go out and get some aftermarket decals - I have some already, plus I could also kill 2 birds with 1 stone modelling a 617 Sqn airframe.... I did build a 13 Sqn GR1A airframe in winter cam in the last STGB. Did find the kit a bit over engineered and I do tend to stick to 1/48 and above now. I have the aftermarket resin to upgrade to a GR4 and some other decals, so any ideas welcome! Edited November 14, 2020 by Tim Moff 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin W Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 welcome aboard Tim. GR1 or a GR4 or both are great. If you are not happy with overengineered kits then the Revell 1/48 is one to avoid as several of us are finding out! Colin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Moff Posted October 29, 2020 Author Share Posted October 29, 2020 Got stuck in today getting some bits off the sprue and some initial building. sadly I’ve found there’s some bits missing - luckily I’ve 2 bang seats out of a previous build - kit was 2nd hand and not in a bag. a lot of flash to get rid of and I’ve done some of the major bits, intakes, wings, fin etc. hopefully nothing to drastic missing ! edging towards the 617 Sqn GR4 70th anniversary jet.... https://www.globalaviationresource.com/v2/2013/05/17/news-dambusters-70th-anniversary-commemorations/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Looks as if you're off to a good start regardless of the missing seats Tim and nice choice of markings as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Moff Posted October 31, 2020 Author Share Posted October 31, 2020 (edited) Would everyone agree that the aircraft in this scheme are in the MSG scheme ? the decals I have and even the Airfix version would have you spray it the older DSG/DCG scheme - I think it’s MSG all over if you look at the uppers where the DSG would be... in fact one of the airframes has some old DSG panels ? this thread seems to agree, albeit the MSG may be a little faded.... does anyone know if the stencils changed - hopefully I will have some for the MSG scheme in my stash.. Edited October 31, 2020 by Tim Moff 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anatol Pigwa Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 If I go by what is writtwen on the Hataka "Model Royal Air Force Paibt Set Vol. 1" then the change to the MSG scheme happend in the mid noughies. As the commemorative scheme is from 2013 you schould be fairly save assuming tge MSG variant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Moff Posted October 31, 2020 Author Share Posted October 31, 2020 bit more early work done, some on the stores etc . soon be able to get the primer on. any views on the colour of the wing area that’s hidden etc ? On the pics looks another grey ? The 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Nice progress Tim and a cool choice of colour scheme. As for your wing sweep area grey - perhaps it's just clean due to being swept by the seals? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Moff Posted November 2, 2020 Author Share Posted November 2, 2020 Some basic priming done tonight I used mr paint black primer them put down FS36320 Dark Gull Grey as the cockpit area. Still thinking about the wing sweep area - might go for DCG just to see. the sidewinder rails also appear lighter, would expect they are DCG from the previous paint iteration ? realised from the pics that the smaller 1500 ? Tanks are fitted on the aircraft so have built them up. most pics are clean of LGBs so I may just paint them for future use. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alhenderson Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 From the pictures I've looked at of GR.4s, it seems like, more often than not, the wing sweep areas are the same colour as the rest of the wing. Either that, or its damn close. That said, there are of course exceptions where it definitely looks darker. But then I was mainly looking for pictures of GR.1s so didn't worry too much about GR.4s 🙂 Al 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Moff Posted November 12, 2020 Author Share Posted November 12, 2020 Moving on with this build Front end built need to crack on a bit as I’ve been focussed on the 1/48 build and have to get some more pics of this - wings are together and about to close up the rear end. Undercarriage doors all closed along with air brakes etc. A little bit messy as I’m finding I am with 1/72 builds now ! Anyone have the Airfix kit decals that came with this - I’m thinking of building ZA492 as it was a bit dirtier and had some DSG panels, CG coloured AIM 9 rail so a bit different - however the aftermarket decals have the names of the ZA412 crew to go on the canopy... Ive seen a great build of ZA492 that has the correct names but not sure if it’s from the Airfix kit decals ? https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=159&t=1362582 my build won’t be to this standard - pretty amazing work ... does not seem to mention where the ZA492 decals are from . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Moff Posted November 14, 2020 Author Share Posted November 14, 2020 Some work going on covering up some vents Some foam behind the wing sweep bags as going with wings fwd will put the tail planes on later fuse when well with her big half sister ! Some last bits to do before the primer goes on... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Moff Posted November 15, 2020 Author Share Posted November 15, 2020 Got it out to prime with some Mr Paint primer. cockpit masked off as the dipped canopies are taking a bit longer than expected. will look to mottle with some LAG, DSG etc to break up the MSG main colour. Will then stick the Night Black on the tail. ZA492 had some old DSG panels that I can sort after. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 That has gone together well and quickly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Moff Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 Paint on ... night black onto the tail - I also marbled the surfaces with light aircraft grey, dark sea grey and FS36375 Gull grey to give some different tones. Tamiya XF-83 MSG 2 RAF misted over the airframe looked a bit grubby on the wings etc so hopefully the effect will still be there once the gloss and Matt cotes go on... next need to get the lightened Dark Sea Grey on the nose and the panels shown on the ref pics 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Very nice work on the paint Tim. You've certainly captured the dirt-marked nature of this one to great effect 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alhenderson Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 You've done a great job with that grubby grey - looks the biz! Al 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Moff Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 Lots going on masking wise 🤣 Trying to get the DSG panels done and then sort the metal on the tail at the same time as the 1/48. canopies on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Moff Posted November 22, 2020 Author Share Posted November 22, 2020 Some work over the weekend - chased a couple of errors that’s frustrating sometimes in this scale 🤣 seems to be nearly there for gloss and decals... just the gun area to sort . Will do all the other smaller detail stuff after.., 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dermo245 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Very nice work on that 👏 Paint looks terrific 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Paint work looks very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Moff Posted November 24, 2020 Author Share Posted November 24, 2020 Got done if the small detail painting done and glossed - realised the wing sweep masking not quite right so will mask and spray with some MSG before staring in the decals ... Some of the stores decals are close to going on! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Getting the masking for the wing sweep area is a pain, but you look to have got it right. I usually close the wing and use a pencil to draw around the edge of the fuselage to give me some idea of the shape. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Moff Posted November 25, 2020 Author Share Posted November 25, 2020 55 minutes ago, Jabba said: Getting the masking for the wing sweep area is a pain, but you look to have got it right. I usually close the wing and use a pencil to draw around the edge of the fuselage to give me some idea of the shape. That’s what I did originally - for whatever reason I didn’t quite cover the Black primer correctly - probably my biff handed masking 🤣 hopefully get it sorted later and get on with decals ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Moff Posted November 27, 2020 Author Share Posted November 27, 2020 On the final lap - just heard the bell ring 🤣 pushing on with decals ... think they were probably designed for the Airfix kit as slightly large but will do the job... stencils and weapons decals to go !! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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