Peter Rozendal Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Hi all, I want to start the MPM Havoc Turbinlite. However MPM has only included a 'standard'rear cockpit, where I would expect the the rear cockpit would be filled with a radar scope for the AI Mk IV radar and assorted parafernalia. Does anybody know what the rear cockpit really looked like? Kind regardfs, Peter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Peter Rozendal said: Does anybody know what the rear cockpit really looked like? Maybe the P-70 had the same basic rear cockpit layout? Didn't the P-70's use British designed AI sets? Possibly @tonyot or @LDSModeller might be the gents to help you out- I defer to my betters on this one! Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewerjerry Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 (edited) Hi nothing in the havoc pilots notes the following is for the P-70, but might be useful, if you find nothing else i think one is based on the british radar https://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USN/ref/Radar/img/Radar-p58.jpg https://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USN/ref/Radar/img/Radar-p59.jpg cheers jerry Edited October 18, 2020 by brewerjerry 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackson Duvalier Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Sketchy as they are, those images are a huge help, Jerry-- cheers! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewerjerry Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 (edited) 14 hours ago, Jackson Duvalier said: Sketchy as they are, those images are a huge help, Jerry-- cheers! Hi if they are of any use to anyone i have two AP maintenance manual pages that show the non radar equipped gunners station in the A-20B they are internal photos, one looking forward and one looking to the rear just pm me your e mail, i am unable post photos here cheers jerry Edited October 19, 2020 by brewerjerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Rozendal Posted October 19, 2020 Author Share Posted October 19, 2020 Hi Jerry, Thanks for the links to the P-70 lay-out. I doubted that the MPM depection was correct. Peter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyL Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Does this help - one from my collection showing the set up on an 85 Squadron Havoc. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 27 minutes ago, AndyL said: the set up on an 85 Squadron Havoc. Wow! Neat photo! I also notice the rear cockpit still has the throttle quadrant and stowed control column for the rear seat occupant to fly the airplane! Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Rozendal Posted October 24, 2020 Author Share Posted October 24, 2020 Hi Andy, Thanks for the photo. Is the photo facing foreward or rearwarda? Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS_w Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 (edited) DB7, Havoc I & II and Boston III, the dual control is fitted for the rear gunner maintains the airplane steady during pilot escape on the wing and dive from trailing edge to avoid the stabilizer, after that the gunner can escape. it was the only airplane where the pilot was not the last to bale out The view is foreward below, the gunner's compartment on french DB-7 Edited October 24, 2020 by BS_w 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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