Spookytooth Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Up to your high workmanship as usual Peter. Simon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airscale Posted October 23, 2020 Author Share Posted October 23, 2020 Thank you ..after posting the pics of the control grip I was really bothered by how crap the cotton wrap looked..so I stripped it off.. ..then I painted it in maskol masking rubber & painted that instead... ..I am happier with how this looks on another note, on Monday I am going up near Duxford to meet with someone who has nearly 2,000 factory drawings of the Fury which I am allowed to access and photograph - really thrilled about that as it is becoming a problem having no references TTFN Peter 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbody Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Wow! This is fantastic! I'll definitely be following this to the end. Chris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbadge Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 The grip looks fantastic again. Great job. Have a great day looking at the drawings, I bet you'll be like a kid in a sweet shop!!! Chris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookytooth Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Well Peter, that`s a result , getting to look at all those drawings, loads of references. Nice job on the hand grip. Simon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doccur Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 This is simply incredible craftsmanship. Watching with interest. Ash 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airscale Posted October 25, 2020 Author Share Posted October 25, 2020 Thanks ladies a bit more done.. ..the undercarriage legs are something I thought I might start without drawings as I have a fair bit of dimensional info off the 4 view I do have.. we can see here there is a lower aerofoil compression strut that is in a wider upper housing, with the axle (looking like a rod, but is also aerofoil) and a complex bunch of fittings either end to mount the main strut, trailing strut and bracing wires.. ..to make the aerofoil compression strut I tried a number of things, from left to right - just compressing ali tube - fail, it just caves in the middle, then ali tube filled with balsa (by hammering it into it like a nail - getting there, but impossible to get an aerofoil section, then balsa fill with a cocktail stick rammed in to give a solid round nose cross section and a good squish of the trailing edge.. ..used the cocktail stick/balsa process to make up the two struts and soldered rod into square section brass before dremelling away the waste & drilling to get two clevis mounts.. ..the axle started as a brass rod with a number of brass fittings soldered to get the fittings for the compression strut and trailing strut.. ..these fitting also have a tiny hole inboard for the bracing wire mount.. ..to get the aerofoil section I milled the back of the axle flat and added a plastic rectangular block which itself had a slit routed into it to let in a brass rod to give a nice solid, rounded trailing edge.. ..then the aerofoil was filled with P38 filler & sanded.. ..and then primed with mr surfacer.. ..and then some tiny bolts dry hold the all the parts in place.. ..I just hope it holds all the weight securely later on... ..also hope I get some drawings of the upper mounts tomorrow as these are a much more distinctive shape.. also ordered some 'O' rings that are the exact dimensions of the tyres - there is a website you just type in what you want and they find it TTFN Peter 27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbadge Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Oh my word, great work making the legs for starters and then all the other bits and tiny bolts too amazing. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elanman Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 This is fantastic! I'm at the very beginning of building the Airfix 1/48 version and this is a real inspiration. Clearly the level of detail is going to be significantly less but I really enjoy seeing how you approach this and it's invaluable reference. Thank you. I note you you said you had a PDF copy of the Westburg plans, grateful if you could point me to where you found them please? I have the Warpaint book on the Fury and the 1/48 plans in that suggest the cockpit on the Airfix is too far to the rear. The Image of the Westburg plans in this thread suggest that's not the case which is also what I think John Adams (whose views I greatly respect on such matters) said in his Fury comparison some time ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airscale Posted October 25, 2020 Author Share Posted October 25, 2020 44 minutes ago, elanman said: This is fantastic! I'm at the very beginning of building the Airfix 1/48 version and this is a real inspiration. Clearly the level of detail is going to be significantly less but I really enjoy seeing how you approach this and it's invaluable reference. Thank you. I note you you said you had a PDF copy of the Westburg plans, grateful if you could point me to where you found them please? I have the Warpaint book on the Fury and the 1/48 plans in that suggest the cockpit on the Airfix is too far to the rear. The Image of the Westburg plans in this thread suggest that's not the case which is also what I think John Adams (whose views I greatly respect on such matters) said in his Fury comparison some time ago. Hi & welcome to the forums If you go through the contact us page on my website I can email the PDF back to you as it's not online, I got my printer to make up the PDF from images I found in an old RC Model magazing www.airscale.co.uk Thanks Peter 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elanman Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 45 minutes ago, airscale said: Hi & welcome to the forums If you go through the contact us page on my website I can email the PDF back to you as it's not online, I got my printer to make up the PDF from images I found in an old RC Model magazing www.airscale.co.uk Thanks Peter Peter, Thanks very much. I've just done exactly as you ask through the contact page on your website. Thank you. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airscale Posted October 26, 2020 Author Share Posted October 26, 2020 so after an early start, I am back from my research trip I spoke to Guy Black this morning and he allowed me full access to K5674 in Hangar 3 in Duxford - anyone who knows the warbird circuit will know of Guy, he is a legend in bringing old birds back to life through AeroVintage & Retrotec and operating them. It was a real privelege for me Took loads of pictures - unfortunately a tonneau cover was over the cockpit and the security guy (probably rightly) didn't want to mess with it - but for the exterior I have everything ..these of the U/C will definately help.. ..I then went on from there to meet up with someone who let me photograph a number of drawings - these are I think Hawker via the Danish Government for the Nimrods they operated - there is Danish sub-notes on them I can't post or share them, but I will give you an idea of the goldmine it was for me.. ..will probably remake the seat.. ..stringer positions on the fuselage are not on the Westburg plans as a substructure so these will be really helpful.. ..like digging up history ..the pictures aren't great as they were just spread on the floor in a small room one at a time, but I have many useful ones and am super happy with what I got out of today ..back soon TTFN Peter 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Juliet Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Mind suitably blown! Working engine? (I've seen it done! - now there's a challenge for you!) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LorenSharp Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 On 10/25/2020 at 12:09 PM, airscale said: ..I just hope it holds all the weight securely later on... . Peter, the way you have built the Fury thus far, I would almost hazard to say it would hold up the real thing! Your Engineering and Fabrication efforts so far are outstanding. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbadge Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Agreed, your work is amazing . Glad you had a great trip. Chris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elanman Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Glad you had such a successful visit and were able to glean so much useful information for your build. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Quick question if I may... How will you do the wings ? Metal/wood ribs and spars with real fabric or tissue doped over like an R/C. Or will you mold them in plastic somehow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonners Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 "Clunk!" That was the sound of my jaw dropping, by the way. Jon 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airscale Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 need help chaps - does anyone have even one period picture of a Fury instrument panel? ..have a few of resto's & the Nimrod, but nothing like a contemporaneous Pilots notes picture showing one back in the day thanks in advance (& with fingers crossed) Peter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elanman Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Peter, Period photos of the cockpit interior and instrument panel do seem a bit thin on the ground, it's almost as if no one thought to provide suitable pictures for modellers almost 90 years on. I note that the last photograph of the plans you took on your trip to Duxford is titled 'Detail of Pilot's Instrument Board' so I'd expect that to give you the standard factory layout and wouldn't expect it to vary much in service? It would be interesting to compare this with the panel in the Fury at Duxford ( a few photos on line) to cross reference the drawing as a primary source and then research further any specific differences. Yahu do a 1/48 etched panel for the Airfix kit so they may have had access to research material, it looks very similar to the panel in the restored aircraft. Sorry not the definitive answer you might be looking for but possibly an approach. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Riot Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 It's outstanding craftsmanship. More like engineering than modelling, a completely different world to the lumps of sanded plastic I haphazardly glue together and spray! Looking forward to seeing it completed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbody Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 This is from Planes Vol.1 No.1, 1981. This is from Warpaint No. 116, by William Harrison. It's the cockpit of restored Fury S1581. Chris 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete in Lincs Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Your work on the alighting gear looks fabulous. As do those detail shots of K5674. What a beautiful piece of Aeronautica. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airscale Posted November 1, 2020 Author Share Posted November 1, 2020 Thanks guys - Chris those pics are particularly helpful - thank you I have been at the bench, but not modelling.. I have taken the drawings and photo's I have and have prepared the PE needed for the interior of the Fury - hundreds of parts in total. I also prepared the instruments which I will get made as decals in my next airscale stock order.. first the PE fret - this has an F4U panel in the corner for a fellow modeller in 1/18 who goes to the n'th degree like I try to to be accurate in every detail (you know who you are Jay...) ..here we have brackets, IP, anciliaries, seat bits, guns bits, rudder & control stick parts and a set of formers that surround the tube structure to give 'body' to the fuselage.. ..a bit closer.. ..and here is the IP taken from a drawing with the instruments I could identify for the Fury 1.. the drawing is for a Nimrod, but the only difference I could find was the removal of two switches on the left of the panel.. ..need to get these into PPD and Fantasy Printshop for production now, while I remake the seat as the one I made differs from the drawings.. ..that was a LOT of work.. TTFN Peter 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbadge Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Oh Wow, simply sublime 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now