exdraken Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Tamiya Panther V, Ausf G 1/48 French Forces decals: http://www.brachmodel.it/cataloghi.html?page=shop.product_details&flypage=garden_flypage.tpl&product_id=190&category_id=12 http://www.brachmodel.it/images/BM-D4801.jpg @Foxbat, did yours arrive already? or should I better try and order my own ones? the real thing: some more on those: http://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=265093 http://www.chars-francais.net/2015/index.php/engins-blindes/chars?task=view&id=76 came today, still shrink wrapped but not for long! I know many of you do not like the metal hulls for ?? I like it, because it seperates these from my usual much bigger and lighter!! jet models detail is fine I think first sprues already cut and there is a slight smell of glue! and super glue! 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Welcome aboard sir.. Its nice to see another French Panther to balance out the users. 👍🏻 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxbat Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 2 hours ago, exdraken said: Tamiya Panther V, Ausf G 1/48 French Forces decals: http://www.brachmodel.it/cataloghi.html?page=shop.product_details&flypage=garden_flypage.tpl&product_id=190&category_id=12 http://www.brachmodel.it/images/BM-D4801.jpg @Foxbat, did yours arrive already? or should I better try and order my own ones? By a strange coincidence I just got them today. Which scheme would you like to do? Drop me a message with your address and I'll get them in the post 😊 Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted October 18, 2020 Author Share Posted October 18, 2020 some more cutting and glueing: this model comes devoid of any Zimmerit, first not sure if I need that for all French Panthers, late ones came without, no? and second, if I chose to add some, which type or what aftermarket would you recommend? doing it myself in 48 sounds rather challenging.... cheers! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonT Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 “Zimmerit Anti-Magnetic Coating - On 7 September 1944, the Generalinspekteur Dee Panzertruppen decided to end the application of Zimmerit anti-magnetic coating, based on rumours that hits on the Zimmerit had caused vehicle fires. On 9 September 1944, MNH received a message from Wa Pruef 6 that the assembly firms were to immediately stop applying Zimmerit. MNH complied with the directive on all Ausf.G completed after 14 September.” Panzer Tracts 5-3 Panther Ausf.G There are some specific hull numbers mentioned in the text (completed without Zim after 9 September but before 14 September) which I can give you if you need them. Hope this helps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Great to see another one of these in the GB Werner, must get my build up and running soon. I like the choice of French markings, not sure about the Zim but I'm sure I have seen pics of French Panthers which still had it fitted so I think it is just a case of checking the available pics to see if the one you want to build have it or not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted October 19, 2020 Author Share Posted October 19, 2020 thanks regarding the Zimmerit... most photos show Zimmerit on the war photos.... but that is quite logical, as most of the Panthers were already in French armed forces service in 44... 15 hours ago, SimonT said: There are some specific hull numbers mentioned in the text (completed without Zim after 9 September but before 14 September) which I can give you if you need them. thanks! if you happen to know which hull numbers served with French forces, yes please... I can hardly find information in this respect though! 49-59 Panthers were allegedly used not sure what to do in this respect... aftermarket Zim seems to be hard to get by the way currently..... some more plastic cut: the turret is, like the rest a simple affair those kits really provide a lot of detail 3 hours ago, modelling minion said: Great to see another one of these in the GB Werner, must get my build up and running soon. indeed! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mig Eater Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 The only French Panthers I've seen with zimmerite are Ausf.A models, none of the Ausf.G versions they captured had any AFAIK. Of course that's going by photos, a list of hull numbers might say otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonT Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 I’ll have a dig through the references tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted October 19, 2020 Author Share Posted October 19, 2020 16 minutes ago, Mig Eater said: The only French Panthers I've seen with zimmerite are Ausf.A models, none of the Ausf.G versions they captured had any AFAIK. Of course that's going by photos, a list of hull numbers might say otherwise. maybe I cannot sufficiently distinguish A from G models, but this page lables many of those as G.. and many show Zimmerit applied... http://www.chars-francais.net/2015/index.php/engins-blindes/chars?task=view&id=76 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mig Eater Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 I stand corrected 😛 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 3 hours ago, exdraken said: and many show Zimmerit applied... From what I can see all of them seem to have Zimmerit applied, but a lot of these pics are from the end of the war and I am unsure if they would have kept Zimmerit post war. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diases Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 I would think that the time period would decide. If mid 40's them zimm, but if closer to end of service, it would have been removed to save weight or modifications. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbow Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Zimmerit application stopped in September 1944. Pretty sure the French vehicles were a lot of later war Panthers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stef N. Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) Not sure if it's of any help as you may have seen it already but while searching for other photos I stumbled across this. https://www.worldwarphotos.info/gallery/germany/tanks-2-3/panther-tanks/panther-france/ Unfortunately viewing it in daylight it also looks like it has Zim on the underside. Edited October 20, 2020 by Stef N. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxbat Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 I was away over the weekend, but I got your message Werner, and the decals you wanted went into the post today. The instructions say it is an Ausf G captured in September 1944 and it doesn't have zimm. At least one of the other schemes clearly does so the comparison is easy. Guess that means it went from factory to front line to capture in a matter of days in the back half of the month. Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted October 20, 2020 Author Share Posted October 20, 2020 Hi Andy! thanks! very much appreciated! so no Zimmerit it is then saving on that, I am seriously thinking about Friul metal tracks... any experience out ther for 48? http://www.friulmodel.hu/en/atl-4801-panther-late-type-tracks-i111/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 more on the Panther! I ordered a set of late Friul tracks.... I really wonder what I will get, they are €€, and will take ⏲️... looking forward to this challenge! AND: Andy @Foxbat; the decals arrived today! thanks a lot! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted November 16, 2020 Author Share Posted November 16, 2020 got a lot of tiny parts today, directly from Hungary! quite heavy as well! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted January 4, 2021 Author Share Posted January 4, 2021 time to move on here! maybe the track link amount put me off, or the Tornado GB, or Xmas, or all of it! but I learned today that we got an eytra week here on the Panther GB! so I made a very linky start this evening..while the kids were watching some Paw Patrol epsiodes I got this far: this is abuot halve th links needed for one track, so a quater of all needed they look great and are exactly this amount of work... and they also move great! can't get more realistic! and this is 48th! sorry for the many pics... but I need a break from assembling track 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted January 5, 2021 Author Share Posted January 5, 2021 I assume to have sufficient linked track now.... hope you like it I definitely do! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stef N. Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Looking good.I find making up Friul tracks rather therapeutic. Although I may struggle in that scale.👍 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted January 7, 2021 Author Share Posted January 7, 2021 Question to to the knowlegable here: https://i.pinimg.com/564x/76/48/f5/7648f5c1ce2c8f17e4b64ef9eae74cb2.jpg https://i.redd.it/f60ftgqzv3v11.jpg https://i.skyrock.net/5169/32835169/pics/1596165750.jpg https://mapio.net/pic/p-10962129/ With color apart from rust is that? this is no dunkelgelb, is it? some too grey base and some Revell oker (88) that I am not satisfied with.... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stef N. Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 I'd say dunkelgelb. Or very close. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbow Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 I would say a little light, for DG. Your original color photos look a little over exposed, or washed out due to the sun light..... But saying that.... Do we know if the French Panthers were actually painted in dunkelgelb, and not a lighter allied color ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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