CedB Posted October 9, 2020 Author Share Posted October 9, 2020 Thanks Bill Well, it seems to be up so here goes… where was I? Damn, down again. I give up (until tomorrow). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry1954 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 2 hours ago, CedB said: Didn't you follow the Hurricanes? Alas I have spent much of the recent few months in the maritime section for my sins. Aviation mojo creeping back now! So the big question Ced, will the A-4 be an Airforce P(aka or C or a Navy Q(modified B)? I may not have posed that question entirely accurately. I find Argentine Skyhawk types a little confusing! Terry 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 yup, they're blaming pandas here too. Not only pandas, but by looking at he pic, plastic pandas! Ian 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 8 hours ago, CedB said: I'd need to ask the neighbour if it was OK to knock a hole in the wall… So, where's the problem...? K 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2996 Victor Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 1 hour ago, CedB said: Thanks Victor Bill Wha.....oh, sorry I'll tag along, too, if I may? Cheers, Mark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Sorry I’m late. Have I missed anything? Bit alarmed by the bright yellow doppler panel on those transfers. Don’t look like no Sea Jet I’ve ever seen! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted October 10, 2020 Author Share Posted October 10, 2020 12 hours ago, Terry1954 said: Alas I have spent much of the recent few months in the maritime section for my sins. Aviation mojo creeping back now! So the big question Ced, will the A-4 be an Airforce P(aka or C or a Navy Q(modified B)? I may not have posed that question entirely accurately. I find Argentine Skyhawk types a little confusing! Terry Welcome back then Terry! According to the box the Skyhawk is an A-4P - does that make sense? 12 hours ago, Brandy said: yup, they're blaming pandas here too. Not only pandas, but by looking at he pic, plastic pandas! Ian Back up this morning, finally! 11 hours ago, keefr22 said: So, where's the problem...? K The neighbour is a submariner and therefore not very keen on holes 11 hours ago, 2996 Victor said: Wha.....oh, sorry I'll tag along, too, if I may? Cheers, Mark Of course - welcome Mark 8 minutes ago, Ex-FAAWAFU said: Sorry I’m late. Have I missed anything? Bit alarmed by the bright yellow doppler panel on those transfers. Don’t look like no Sea Jet I’ve ever seen! You've only missed some ranting Crisp so nothing special Doppler panels? I Googled that, to no avail, even with the (apparently) preferred dumb question format (i.e. 'Why do aircraft have doppler panels?') Could you enlighten me please (again)? Right, let's try again. SHAR trees: With some nice molding detail: …and nice clear canopy: The Skyhawk looks to be a similar standard: Again with some nice detail: …and canopy: Sorry, that's blurry. Right, let's look at some progress… 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted October 10, 2020 Author Share Posted October 10, 2020 Craig has challenged me (sort of) to use just the starter kit paints so I'll try that for a bit of fun. When I buy a starter pack I usually take the glue, brushes and paint straight out of the box and store them with other similar items. The paint goes in here: Problem 1: the box art shows 10 pots including a red. Problem 2: some of the pots have badly printed numbers on them. I did manage to find them though: …except the red which, at the moment, I can't find in the instructions so I'm not sure which red it should be. Just in case the pots are useless I've also checked that I have full sized equivalents: Of course one problem with using the pack paints is that the designers are somewhat limited when it comes to painting details. For example, the pilots get, er, greenish flight suits and helmets: Obviously they're going to need more painting than other parts so they were started first, with a base coat of Ratskin Flesh (sorry Craig, I couldn't have green-faced pilots) and then the Hu116: Hang on a minute… the Skyhawk pilot is a weirdly flat bottomed modern pilot, but the SHAR? That's an Archie! Not very period, is he - with his leather flying helmet and boots and all… Oh well, good enough for the ceiling. They'll both get Hu33 boots, some detailing and Archie gets white gloves (hooray!) I've also started assembling the seats: The SHAR seat has a hole in the bottom that fits over a peg in the tub. Not being confident that it went all the way on I checked to make sure the canopy fits: Yep, fine. Right, hopefully I can get on now… 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 In the interest of eddicating Ri Ced may I interpose? The bright yellow Doppler panels should rightly be a washed out beigey raw fibreglass colour. I believe 'the doppler' device indicates to the driver just how little space he has left below him until the surface begins abrading the airplane's bottom. On the SHAR set it's a pair of adjacent bloody bright yellow rectangles near one of the nozzle deflection gauge transfers. HTH... 2 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spadgent Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Sorry I’m late. *Takes off wet coat and shakes off the drizzle. “One more log on the fire please, I’ll get the coffee on”. Looks like your back in action dear boy. 😍 Johnny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 16 hours ago, CedB said: See the curved ruler thing (nozzles angle indicator) on the bottom left of the Shar transfers? Next to it, double yellow bar = Doppler aerial underneath the nose. And to answer your question why aircraft need doppler panels: to judge / measure speed and direction at speeds too low for conventional pitot systems to measure (like, say, hovering). Also helps with assessing drift over water. The Shar doppler panel is a tan colour; think Buccaneer S1 nose radome. Not bright yellow! 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather Kay Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Late to the party. Noisy jet-type thingies are not really my bag, but it’s a Ced build so I will linger in the doorway and peep in occasionally to see progress. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 wrong again bilium Speed drift wobbling about all over the place stuff I got the colour right though. When I did my S1 Buccynears I made a couple of colour sheet decals of slightly different beigey colours ready for any further needs Pays to be prepared 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Ah, this looks like is going at a more regular Ced's pace... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry1954 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 2 hours ago, CedB said: According to the box the Skyhawk is an A-4P - does that make sense? Yep that makes sense and looking at the decals it is an Airforce one I'm fairly certain. And as Crisp has pointed out, that yellow is way too bright for the doppler panel as you can see. Terry 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 (edited) Not to wander too far off topic but lately I almost never do jets. Aside from a mig 21 that I started 30 years ago ( oh of course my Campini) I haven’t built a jet in years but I have a skyhawk and a gnat in my stash and these Which I bought in a moment (s) of madness and I ’m planning to build in a burst. Oh and a gloster whittle and a Hienkel 170 in 1/48 also in the stash So em what did the Romans do for us .,, Edited October 10, 2020 by Marklo 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted October 10, 2020 Author Share Posted October 10, 2020 1 hour ago, perdu said: In the interest of eddicating Ri Ced may I interpose? The bright yellow Doppler panels should rightly be a washed out beigey raw fibreglass colour. I believe 'the doppler' device indicates to the driver just how little space he has left below him until the surface begins abrading the airplane's bottom. On the SHAR set it's a pair of adjacent bloody bright yellow rectangles near one of the nozzle deflection gauge transfers. HTH... 1 hour ago, Ex-FAAWAFU said: See the curved ruler thing (nozzles angle indicator) on the bottom left of the Shar transfers? Next to it, double yellow bar = Doppler aerial underneath the nose. And to answer your question why aircraft need doppler panels: to judge / measure speed and direction at speeds too low for conventional pitot systems to measure (like, say, hovering). Also helps with assessing drift over water. The Shar doppler panel is a tan colour; think Buccaneer S1 nose radome. Not bright yellow! 1 hour ago, perdu said: wrong again bilium Speed drift wobbling about all over the place stuff I got the colour right though. When I did my S1 Buccynears I made a couple of colour sheet decals of slightly different beigey colours ready for any further needs Pays to be prepared 23 minutes ago, Terry1954 said: Yep that makes sense and looking at the decals it is an Airforce one I'm fairly certain. And as Crisp has pointed out, that yellow is way too bright for the doppler panel as you can see. Terry Thanks Gents, very helpful I think now is the time to apologise to Craig then - looks like the kit paints aren't going to do the job 1 hour ago, The Spadgent said: Sorry I’m late. *Takes off wet coat and shakes off the drizzle. “One more log on the fire please, I’ll get the coffee on”. Looks like your back in action dear boy. 😍 Johnny Welcome Johnny Certainly more progress, thankfully. 1 hour ago, Heather Kay said: Late to the party. Noisy jet-type thingies are not really my bag, but it’s a Ced build so I will linger in the doorway and peep in occasionally to see progress. Nor me Heather, usually. I do allow some 'specials' though and I think these count, in my head anyway. I was in the MoD (Navy) at the time so the memories are there, albeit from a distance 52 minutes ago, giemme said: Ah, this looks like is going at a more regular Ced's pace... So far Giorgio, so far 16 minutes ago, Marklo said: Not to wander too far off topic but lately I almost never do jets. Aside from a mig 21 that I started 30 years ago ( oh of course my Campini) I haven’t built a jet in years but I have a skyhawk and a gnat in my stash and these [snip pics] Which I bought in a moment (s) of madness and I ’m planning to build in a burst. Oh and a gloster whittle and a Hienkel 170 in 1/48 also in the stash So em what did the Romans do for us .,, Crikey, that's quite a stash Mark! As I mentioned above I wander from my theme from time to time for 'specials' and early jets are on the cards, as are 'specials' like these two Hanging Hurricanes this morning so my arms are empty at the moment. More soon. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendie Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 5 hours ago, CedB said: They'll both get Hu33 boots, some detailing and Archie gets white gloves (hooray!) Could these be the first pilots ever to keep their feet in a Ced build? 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 7 hours ago, CedB said: I wander from my theme from time to time I’m entirely with you there @CedB I also find myself doing that in life as well as model making 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete in Lincs Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 There's a lot of it about. Self isolation doesn't cure it. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HP42 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Pulling up a chair to this one. I've got my mask on and will sit near the open window if I may? Always loved the Harrier. Did a GR5 last year but have most of the variants in the stash. Must get back to my Sea Harrier 'hovering' on the shelf of doom. Nice tips about the doppler panel colours, obvious now it's pointed out. Right, onwards and upwards Ced. Any particular aircraft you're modelling? Will you stick with the kit decals/serials or divert off-piste? Much variation and field (sea) applied paint alterations from what I gather. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBaron Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 On 10/10/2020 at 11:27 AM, CedB said: Hanging Hurricanes this morning so my arms are empty at the moment. Man's a poet. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 On 10/10/2020 at 13:53, hendie said: Could these be the first pilots ever to keep their feet in a Ced build? Maybe What's going on with the forum? Everything's gone a bit grey and the bottom of the quoted boxes has vanished? Can't be my eyes going can it??!! On 10/10/2020 at 18:43, Marklo said: I’m entirely with you there @CedB I also find myself doing that in life as well as model making Thanks Mark On 10/10/2020 at 20:40, Pete in Lincs said: There's a lot of it about. Self isolation doesn't cure it. Oh dear. At least you won't be passing it on Pete 20 hours ago, HP42 said: Pulling up a chair to this one. I've got my mask on and will sit near the open window if I may? Always loved the Harrier. Did a GR5 last year but have most of the variants in the stash. Must get back to my Sea Harrier 'hovering' on the shelf of doom. Nice tips about the doppler panel colours, obvious now it's pointed out. Right, onwards and upwards Ced. Any particular aircraft you're modelling? Will you stick with the kit decals/serials or divert off-piste? Much variation and field (sea) applied paint alterations from what I gather. Hey Phil! Sticking to OOB builds for (hopefully) a mojo boost 18 hours ago, TheBaron said: Man's a poet. …and I don't know it Not a huge mojo boost today but, today Matthew, I'm painting things black: With any luck there'll be some glue soon. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 OK, where's the 'Go to Top' button gone? I use that, a lot. Ah, there's been a forum update: Took some time to post that. Better read it then… OK, 'Go to Top' now a little 'up arrow' bottom right of screen. Happy for the moment, probably. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendie Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 10 minutes ago, CedB said: With any luck there'll be some glue soon. then after that you may be in the mood to do some modeling? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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