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Hi guys, according to this video the new Eduard decals are digitally printed with a carrier film that can be removed after application, leaving just the ink - does anyone have any experience of this?

 

 

Cheers

 

Les

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I've been watching this a few times, and I'm trying to work out why all the decal adhesive stuff is being used, and why there are two of them. 

 

I'll search for more details and see if I can find a more descriptive process with reasons

 

Les

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Try to read this thread

 

https://modelersalliance.org/threads/eduards-new-decals.155482/

 

A user got this response from Eduard

 

"Regarding the new decals - they can be recognized by having a production date on them - 23.06.2020 and forward.
Its true the coat can be removed once dried, but it requires some skills and experience. We do not suggest to our customers they should or need to do this. The decals can be worked with the same way as before- with the older once.
So using the method of removing the top layer is up to the customer - at their own risk."

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Didn’t knew that the spits had the new type of decal..but worked with that type of decal before with the HGW rivets sets and they work like a charm..

But there is a but as your surface must me gloss coated to use these to their full potential but it will look da part..

 

cheers, Jan

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Looks like a load of faffing about for little extra benefit.

 

Better try them for myself before condemnation.

Rog

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Seems that Eduard never intended or designed their transfers to work this way, unlike HGW wet transfers that are designed to have the carrier film removed.

 

HGW recommend the use of transfer setting solutions, I just uses my normal transfer soaking water with around 10% white vinegar and they work just fine.

 

To me the HGW transfer's are a water slide transfer step change, just need a wider selection.

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57 minutes ago, roginoz said:

Looks like a load of faffing about for little extra benefit.

 

Better try them for myself before condemnation.

Rog

I agree to a point - but consider a natural metal or painted silver finish, where there is no carrier film to spoil lettering and stenciling, or where they are applied on transparencies. HGW do stenciling for many aircraft that are their 'wet transfer' type for this exact reason - think MiG 15 / 17 / 19 / 21, P-47 / 51, B-17 / 29, F-86 / 100 etc. 

 

The fact that they come with the model you are buying means you don't have to dip into the aftermarket, and there is nothing obliging you to remove the carrier film. As ever it's an alternative that gives you a choice, but this time without having to pay extra. Of course, the proof of the pudding is in the eating, and while I am optimistic, as you you say I will try them before finally deciding whether it is worth doing.

 

Cheers

 

Les 

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Why won't Eduard tell you the best way of removing the film instead of just saying at your own risk.Looks like they've come up with an idea that hasn't been tested properly by themselves to work reliably

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26 minutes ago, colin said:

Why won't Eduard tell you the best way of removing the film instead of just saying at your own risk.Looks like they've come up with an idea that hasn't been tested properly by themselves to work reliably

Or maybe it wasn’t intended from their side?

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Reading between the lines of what I've seen posted elsewhere, it seems that is is an unintended consequence of the new digital printing process used to produce their own decals, and it was discovered by chance. HGW do wet transfer decals that presumably use a similar method but tailored to give that as an intended property. Maybe Eduard will finesse their own process and start marketing it if they can get it to be more reliable

 

Les

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