ArnoldAmbrose Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 1 hour ago, socjo1 said: stolen from spare PE set Err, "requisitioned"! 😁 This looks superb, and those flag lockers are a very nice touch. 1 hour ago, socjo1 said: I like such simple-style supports for bases. Me too, again that's just my personal preference. My bases are simply rectangles of MDF board painted black. A bit hideous for photos but very discrete in my display cabinet. Regards, Jeff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefy66 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 Slow work Michal but some very nice details and tips. Stay Safe beefy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socjo1 Posted May 2, 2021 Author Share Posted May 2, 2021 (edited) May thanks for your kind comments and likes, I really appreciate it! On 24/04/2021 at 13:29, ArnoldAmbrose said: Err, "requisitioned"! 😁 This looks superb, and those flag lockers are a very nice touch. Jeff, I already know you. You must by diplomat or at least politician in real life! 🙂 On 24/04/2021 at 12:54, robgizlu said: Good to see this back on the bench Heads up Michal - The Round Table Trawler is back on Sale at Starling! And interesting books Rob Yes, especially Allied escort ships is truly fascinating book - almost 600 pages, a few hundreds photos, many drawnings, tables and so on. BTW. I found announcemment of book "British sloops and figates" Quote This volume covers the majority of British wartime escort classes, from the inter-war ASW and minesweeping sloops that culminated in the superb Black Swan class, to the wartime designs that were originally known as ‘twin-screw corvettes’ but were eventually classed as frigates – the ‘River’ class, and their derivatives of the ‘Loch/Bay’ classes that were modified for prefabricated construction. Also included are the American-built destroyer escorts which became RN ‘Captains’ class frigates and the earlier ex-US Coast Guard cutters that were listed as sloops. With its unparalleled level of visual information – paint schemes, models, line drawings and photographs – this book is simply the best reference for any model-maker setting out to build any of these numerous escort types. All these richness of informations will be spread on... 64 pages Let's go back to my Jedi knight 😉 I had to replace one of the stairs. I found in my stash Infini Model stair's set. It contains pretty well detailed parts, much better than usually seen standard PE parts. That's how it looks in model: (Oerlikons are only dry-fitted). I fixed aft gun crew shelter. HMS Jed had additional Oerlikons, and one of them was located on aft shelter's top. That's why I had to add extra railing, ladder and lockers. As you see I fixed Oerlikon lockers (Micromater set). There were a few different patterns fitting lockers to AA platforms on real ships. Sometimes all lockers were located inside the platform, but I have choose another option (the same situation - a few options is with Castle class Corvette): I begun as well fitting quarterdeck with minesweeping stuff: PS. Today update is quite short because when white season has ended (ok it has ended rather early March 😉 ) we spent last 4 days in lovely Brodnica Lakeland. Days were rather cold, misty and rainy (thats why photos are not great) but it was unique occasion for visiting small, empty, quiet lakes, rivers and inaccesibly spring marshes with richness of wildlife. We saw there plenty of cranes, storks, herons, birds of prey including eagle, many spieces of ducks and gooses, swallows, owl, deers, mink, fox, otter and beaver. Best regards, Michał. Edited May 2, 2021 by socjo1 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefy66 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Great details and some beautiful country side Michal. 👍 Stay Safe beefy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 I agree with Beefy entirely Looking forwards to that book as well Rob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socjo1 Posted May 15, 2021 Author Share Posted May 15, 2021 (edited) Some things are very obvious for evereone and we all know this but sometimes IT just happens... After lot of masking and subtle spraying paint I had pretty 6 white-painted smoke generators on quarterdeck... Then I swithed on my brain (too late, Mike, too late!). I realised my "Jedi Knnight" will have minesweeping stuff so maybe smoke generators are useless? Of course, they are! Carefull scribing sawing and priming were must and then once again masking and painting: Final recovery's effect is quite not bad, but once again I lost quite a lot of time and efforts due to my bad planning. All this build is like strange dance. Three steps foreward, but then one step back and one to side. And again, and again. OK, let's say it is my second ship's build and I'm still learning. Ship's building requires much more planning and concentration than airplanes, aspecially when you do your own variations modifications and so on. Fortunately - the end is still closer and closer, however very very slowly... I worked with main mast. Main pole is tapered mast from polish manufacturer RB Model. It is quite rigid and chip. I paid about 2 zlotys (0,4 pound) in my local hobby shop. For yandarm I use 0,5 mm injection needle and buckles are from L'Arsenal. For main mast's A-shaped part I use just 0.5mm brass wire. It is not as strong and rigid as tapered mast but A-framed structure should by enough strong. Best regards, Michał. Edited May 17, 2021 by socjo1 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArnoldAmbrose Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 2 hours ago, socjo1 said: OK, let's say it is my second ship's build and I'm still learning. Ship's building requires much more planning and concentration than airplanes, aspecially when you do your own variations modifications and so on. Gidday Michal, hopefully you'll never stop learning. I've done over forty model ships (Not to your standard though) and I'm still learning and trying new ideas. The more you do the more you'll streamline your own build methods I think. But we all get things wrong from time to time. That mast assembly is very good, and A-frame structures are usually quite strong I think. Are your smoke generators still usable? If so maybe you can use them on another model. Carry on with your excellent model here. Regards, Jeff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 Hi Michal I agree entrirely with Geoff. I'm not certain carrying minesweeping gear would have been a reason NOT to carry smoke generators. They are commonly seen on Flower calss vessels And you HAVE done a good job of clean up The Mast and spars look great and I really like the buckles on the yardarm - thanks for the pointer - I need to get some. Frustrating and 3 forward one backwards but that is still forward motion. Keep it coming! Best Rob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socjo1 Posted May 16, 2021 Author Share Posted May 16, 2021 (edited) Dear Fellows, once again thank you for nice words of motivation and help and likes as well. I hope I regained my ZEN-shipbuilding-philosphy despite some more unwanted demolisions I made. But never mind, as always - three step forwards, two backwards and again... Let's go to more pleasure things! On 16/05/2021 at 04:31, ArnoldAmbrose said: Are your smoke generators still usable? If so maybe you can use them on another model. Yes, I'll saved them. On 16/05/2021 at 07:45, robgizlu said: I really like the buckles on the yardarm - thanks for the pointer - I need to get some. I used this set: L'Arsenal AC 350 029 rigging set "B" type rings, every ring cutted and glued separately. On 16/05/2021 at 07:45, robgizlu said: I'm not certain carrying minesweeping gear would have been a reason NOT to carry smoke generators. They are commonly seen on Flower calss vessels I've checked drawnings and photos - lot of stuff there (kite otters? Paravanes? cranes and so on) and rather no place for genaerators. Maybe some ships had it on the depth charges racks' top but not this one: HMS Rother from: https://southtynesidehistory.co.uk/archive/river-tyne-and-maritime/ships/naval-ships/595902-hms-rother?q= I have one question, Friends: Can anybody explain what are parts I marked red arrows? Best regards, Michał Edited May 19, 2021 by socjo1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnWS Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 (edited) Michal, I'm guessing those are signalling lights. In WWII allies had four red fighting lights that were used to signal other ships at night regarding such things as communicating commands, e.g. execute course changes, attack formations, open fire, etc.. Flashing clear lights were also used to communicate information to other ships using semaphore. Here's a sketch showing the signal lights used on RCN ships. Hope this helps. John Edited May 17, 2021 by JohnWS 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArnoldAmbrose Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 Gidday Michal, in Alistair MacLean's book "HMS Ulysses" he referred to fighting lights at the yard arm. One incident in the book involves the repair of one by a leading torpedoman. Although the book is fiction MacLean served on such a ship (HMS Royalist) as, you probably guessed it, a leading torpedoman. Other incidents in the book have in fact occurred in other ships during the war. So it seems to me that what John above says is correct. (BTW John, I'm afraid your sketch above isn't visible to me). HTH. Regards, Jeff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socjo1 Posted May 17, 2021 Author Share Posted May 17, 2021 (edited) Signal lamps - eye, eye Sir 😉 Thank you Fellows for your help. I can't see John's sketch too. Best regards, Michał. Edited May 17, 2021 by socjo1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnWS Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 Jeff & Michal, I've reposted the sketch using Flickr this time. Let me know if you can see it now. John 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socjo1 Posted May 17, 2021 Author Share Posted May 17, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, JohnWS said: Jeff & Michal, I've reposted the sketch using Flickr this time. Let me know if you can see it now. John Now it's OK. Fantastic scheme, once more ! PS. It's my 200 post here on BritModeller. It is very nice feeling to be part of such friendly and helpfull modeller's community. Now I am "Established Member" - it sounds soooo proud 😉 ! I think untill now I should be VERY VERY SERIOUS. 🤪 "Established Member"... Edited May 17, 2021 by socjo1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArnoldAmbrose Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 Gidday John, yeah I can see it now. Many thanks. And Michal, congratulations on reaching this milestone. Regards, Jeff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socjo1 Posted September 18, 2021 Author Share Posted September 18, 2021 (edited) Hello Friends. Holidays are over so it's good time for finishing my model. This build lasts definitely too long! Today only short update, just for knowing you (and myself!) I'm still processing and don't give up. I installed masts and begun fitting it. I choose clear EZ-line for halyards and rest of rigging will be black. It is my idea, how it will looks? I hope- not bad. Reeving threads through small holes was quite ... 🤬🤬🤬 ... lets say: challenging, but dipping strand's end in CA glue helped slide through rings. Best regards, Michał Edited September 19, 2021 by socjo1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niall Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Just discovered this thread. The lights on the top of the yard arms and at the mast head were fitted to all RN minesweepers. They were used to warn other ships when minesweeping. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socjo1 Posted September 20, 2021 Author Share Posted September 20, 2021 (edited) On 19/09/2021 at 14:54, Niall said: Just discovered this thread. The lights on the top of the yard arms and at the mast head were fitted to all RN minesweepers. They were used to warn other ships when minesweeping. Once more thanks a lot! I'll try to replicate them later. I begun some experiments withe weathering. Some tools and materials: Some scratches (made by scalpel) and heavy rust chips by dark acrylic paint. Mostly along waterline, hull plates and bow area. Some underwater rusty deposits, acrylic paint tapped drybrush. To be hones: I completly don't know how did weathered black painted hullls? Were they really rusted? Not sure, but haven't idea... And some light, salty residues along waterline once again (oil artistic paint) (To be continued...) PS Generally, I hope this time do ship less weathered and in better shape than my previous model, HMCS Copper Cliff. But - who knows?... What are you thinking about it, any advices? (constructive criticism as always highly and warmly welcommed!) Best regards, Michał Edited September 20, 2021 by socjo1 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socjo1 Posted September 26, 2021 Author Share Posted September 26, 2021 Work still continued... And some experiments on the deck: Regards, Michal 15 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PF Naughton Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 Wow, that's looking great. Pat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adm Lord De Univers Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Simply stunning work. David 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 Michal - lovely, loveley weathering! Rob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacca Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 Excellent weathering 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 Loving the dirty work, nice. Stuart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socjo1 Posted December 28, 2022 Author Share Posted December 28, 2022 (edited) Hi, Friends, More than one year ago I seriously bent Jed's mast and had to repair it. As I lost my patience and heart for this model I need take a breake and bulid something easier. Unfortunately Revell's Tornado wasn't easy job and took me much more time than I anticipated. Then I wanted give my small tribute for brave Ukrainians who fight not only for their own freedom... Finally my pause lasted over one year! Morover after Russia's aggresion against Ukraine I had to change my modelling workshop from very very comfortable and quite big mezzazine for something far more... compact. However now I'm closer with my family (and coffe;-)! Reason was we had lot of guests from Kyyiv, Zaporozhe and other Ukrainianas cities and we had to empty a room under mezzazine for creating space to living for them. So when I took HMS Jed off the dusted corner I noticed she is.. all covered cobweb! Watch out for ARACHONPHOBIA! I noticed a few kinds of cobwebs there: As a first I used white thread as a flaglines. I think it is EZ-line, it is quite old. Unfortunantely, it doesn't work good. The thread is very fraying, difficult for making knots or pulling through the grommets. The black ones are Uschi vand den Rosten and it is really FAR, FAR better, I really recommend it. And finally for loose, hanging ropes I used a thin metal - wire too and it was as good as Uschi thread. Then I have added infra-red fighting signal lamps. I made it form stretched clear sprues and then painted with blue and red clear-paints. Decls were custom-made y my Friend (thank you Marek!). I must blend these with thin layer grey paint. When I replced lost bollards and some flag-blocks I used first time mini-puncher and another tool from small Czech producer. I strongly recommend it! PS. Last holidays I had great pleasure going back once again very pleasant country and finished quite a nice, 300 kms (yes, 300 kms) walk there. Do you recognise it ? 😉 Best regards and happy New Year, folks! Michal. Edited December 29, 2022 by socjo1 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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