Jasper dog Posted November 22, 2020 Author Share Posted November 22, 2020 10 hours ago, Andy J said: I managed to get the time down to about 45 mins per block of 11 from start to finish a real PIA imo. As for the duck bills well they need to be fitted with the tracks in place which throws up more problems to deal with 🙄. One things for sure i doubt if I'll ever build these tracks again way to time consuming imo and tbh I don't think they are that strong when completed. Keep going mate the end is nigh 🙂👍 45 min sounds about right, ask me how I know... I've used a combo of meng supplied wire and left over fruil wire and the results being........ The Meng wired ones go together quicker but do feel a lot more fragile the Fruil steel wire takes more effort but is more robust. Anyway, Andy can I enquire how many track links or ar least lengths did you use for one track by my reckoning it'll be just over 7 lengths of track per side, completed 11 so far so probably 3 more to go then a few odd ones to get the length right. Cheers bud 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy J Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 7 minutes ago, Jasper dog said: 45 min sounds about right, ask me how I know... I've used a combo of meng supplied wire and left over fruil wire and the results being........ The Meng wired ones go together quicker but do feel a lot more fragile the Fruil steel wire takes more effort but is more robust. Anyway, Andy can I enquire how many track links or ar least lengths did you use for one track by my reckoning it'll be just over 7 lengths of track per side, completed 11 so far so probably 3 more to go then a few odd ones to get the length right. Cheers bud Yep 7 blocks of 11 each side plus 2 links will give you the recommended 79 links per side. So 14 blocks of 11 plus 4 extra links in total 👍 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbow Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) You feeling any better, Andy ? Edited November 23, 2020 by Longbow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaoinas Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 It couldn't be that bad... One could take it as a meditative activity of some sort, listening some podcast or audiobook at the same time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasper dog Posted November 25, 2020 Author Share Posted November 25, 2020 7 hours ago, vaoinas said: It couldn't be that bad... One could take it as a meditative activity of some sort, listening some podcast or audiobook at the same time. You aren't far off! I'm almost done assembling the short lengths, then connect them together to form two full lengths and then.....the dbs... But yes, radio/podcasts etc etc, nearly done though! Once tracks done I can fit them and get on with the weathering and finishing! Cheers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasper dog Posted November 29, 2020 Author Share Posted November 29, 2020 Well......quite a benchmark, after goodness knows how long I've actually got two lengths of track. Wasn't entirely convinced I'd get this far with them, still have the db's to go but... I may need to add a link or two extra once fitted but I'll deal with that at the time. Next up will be DBs, paint and then they can be fitted! I must say if I had the chance I'd suggest to Meng either have rethink with the tracks or include an option like rubber bands. If AFV club can do good Sherman rubber bands why can't Meng? I'm suggesting as much because if someone less committed to the hobby tried to build what is otherwise a great kit they would undoubtedly be put off by the pita that is the track assembly. Moan over, for now, let's see how the DBs go.... Thanks for looking Darryl 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy J Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 11 minutes ago, Jasper dog said: Well......quite a benchmark, after goodness knows how long I've actually got two lengths of track. Wasn't entirely convinced I'd get this far with them, still have the db's to go but... I may need to add a link or two extra once fitted but I'll deal with that at the time. Next up will be DBs, paint and then they can be fitted! I must say if I had the chance I'd suggest to Meng either have rethink with the tracks or include an option like rubber bands. If AFV club can do good Sherman rubber bands why can't Meng? I'm suggesting as much because if someone less committed to the hobby tried to build what is otherwise a great kit they would undoubtedly be put off by the pita that is the track assembly. Moan over, for now, let's see how the DBs go.... Thanks for looking Darryl Couldn't agree more Darryl well said mate. These tracks are no fun at all and I'll certainly be glad to see the back of them. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo1966 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 I always check reviews of kits i am thinking of buying. And to be honest, if i see that each track link is 4 pieces it is immediately deleted from my wish list. So i fully agree with Darryl about manufactures including rubber bands as an alternative, to keep less committed modellers in the hobby. George 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullbasket Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 And if they can make a good job of them, as Tamiya did with their T80 HVSS tracks, indy link versions are not needed. It's not as if M4s had sagging tracks. John. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbow Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 I fall into the Much Less committed category.... I'll take those rubber bands 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasper dog Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 10 hours ago, Geo1966 said: I always check reviews of kits i am thinking of buying. And to be honest, if i see that each track link is 4 pieces it is immediately deleted from my wish list. So i fully agree with Darryl about manufactures including rubber bands as an alternative, to keep less committed modellers in the hobby. George Thanks George, its such a shame as its a great kit but those tracks, 4 parts per link plus the pin...which can be a fight to fit! 8 hours ago, Bullbasket said: And if they can make a good job of them, as Tamiya did with their T80 HVSS tracks, indy link versions are not needed. It's not as if M4s had sagging tracks. John. 8 hours ago, Longbow said: I fall into the Much Less committed category.... I'll take those rubber bands I'd happily make this kit again but next time I'm getting after market (AFV Club) rubber bands, used them on a Dragon Firefly and they worked great. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasper dog Posted December 1, 2020 Author Share Posted December 1, 2020 The kit that keeps giving! What new circle of hell have we just entered, think we can possibly add another to Dantes circles of hell missive... Against Mengs suggestion of adding these afterwards I've decided it's easier to add them whilst the tracks are flat, unpainted and off the vehicle, might be a mistake but.. Idea being it's easier to paint and weather them off the vehicle and I can install at the same time as adding the suspension units and drive wheels etc, that's the theory at least. Unfortunately they just butt join to the link connectors, not too worried if a few drop off as in reality they would come adrift anyway..🤞 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy J Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Jeez that looks fun Darryl.........not 🙄. I've still got the pleasure of doing mine and boy am I looking forward to it 😬👍 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbow Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Okay, I have a Meng M4 in the stash. I swear to God I'm slapping some rubber tracks on this thing.... I'm pretty sure I have some unused ones in the stash. Life is far to short for that mess 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy J Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 40 minutes ago, Longbow said: Okay, I have a Meng M4 in the stash. I swear to God I'm slapping some rubber tracks on this thing.... I'm pretty sure I have some unused ones in the stash. Life is far to short for that mess Great get on with it then 🙄 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasper dog Posted December 1, 2020 Author Share Posted December 1, 2020 7 hours ago, Andy J said: Jeez that looks fun Darryl.........not 🙄. I've still got the pleasure of doing mine and boy am I looking forward to it 😬👍 4 hours ago, Longbow said: Okay, I have a Meng M4 in the stash. I swear to God I'm slapping some rubber tracks on this thing.... I'm pretty sure I have some unused ones in the stash. Life is far to short for that mess It's not difficult just time consuming and monotonous....just hope it's not it vain! I agree, you can get aftermarket rubber bands in a variety of patterns for the Sherman, just not one with DBs, next time I'm doing one I can get the track type for. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diablo rsv Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 And we do this for fun?😧 Wayne 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy J Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Jasper dog said: It's not difficult just time consuming and monotonous....just hope it's not it vain! I agree, you can get aftermarket rubber bands in a variety of patterns for the Sherman, just not one with DBs, next time I'm doing one I can get the track type for. Thing is Darryl until the tracks are finished and in place it's difficult to say whether you like them or not. Yes I agree they are a PIA to put together but if they look smart when finished it will be worth it 🙂👍. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dads203 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, diablo rsv said: And we do this for fun?😧 Wayne Character building 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy J Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Dads203 said: Character building Soul destroying is more like it 🙄 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbow Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Dads203 said: Character building Builds moral fiber 1 hour ago, Andy J said: Soul destroying is more like it 🙄 Totally agree 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy J Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Longbow said: Builds moral fiber Totally agree Jeez your posting a lot on here today you'll be building armour models next 😉👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbow Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Well... I just cracked the box, and mine comes with rubber band tracks already. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbow Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 And the Asuka kits come with duckbill rubber bands. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy J Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 48 minutes ago, Longbow said: And the Asuka kits come with duckbill rubber bands. Asuka is now on my shopping list 😉👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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