JWM Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Hi I should like to join the GB with a bit rare Dewoitine 338 passenger airplane (impressed to Free French Army)by Polish Broplan company. This is a vacu with some injected parts. I started it already in July, but did not achieved significant progress when I joined He 111 STB with four He 111 variants.... I think it is less then required 25% of advance, The parts were cut out from sheets, but not all sanded on edges yet, some work on fuselage was done like glued windows and painting of inside started but I am going to change colours on the base of some colour drawing. So this is current state of it: I hope I can join The inside of passenger looked like this Please note that on above photos they differ... Since the machine was used for transport of high rank officers I think it could retain the pre-war luxury furniture The colores of inside are not sure. In a paper-model of this machine they are like that: Here are such suggestions (so green/yellow instead of red/brown) here again green-yellow Therefore I will change to green-yellow Regards Jerzy-Wojtek 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMF Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Wonderful choice! Not quite an arc-en-ciel but pretty close! Looking forward to this one. Regards, Adrian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliffB Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Very nice indeed. Between-the-wars French aircraft have a reputation for being pretty ugly, but this one's gorgeous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyOD Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 What an interest subject! 👍🏻 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEMPESTMK5 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Good morning JWM Welcome aboard I am looking forward to follow your build of this very interesting subject.. Have fun best regards Patrice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted September 23, 2020 Author Share Posted September 23, 2020 Thank you gentlemen for good word for start... I am still building now also He 111z in STGB for He 111 I will have to share hobby time between them. Thus is particular scheme I want to do (from web site https://live.staticflickr.com/7049/6898270975_792fc23cff_z.jpg ) Looks like having still NMF or alu from bottom (originally they were all in NMF or alu) with some olive (green, khaki?) from top, the Lorrain crosses looks blue to me (with thin red outline) on, interesting are national colours not only on rudder but also on elevators and in strips below the registrations In a comment to this scheme of Goeland one can find "To evoke Allies airplanes as much as possible also in colours, they painted it with brownish-green colour reproducing the American shade Olive Drab on its upper and lateral surfaces. Analogously also the bottom surfaces with grey colour. Also some French variant of invasion strips appeared on this machine, although this airplane had not taken part in any disembarkation of course. " So it seems that upper colour is not any pre-war French one bet the French imitation of Olive Drab or even directly - American OD... Any advises or suggestions on this scheme welcomed. Regards J-W 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Fantastic choice J-W, another subject I’m not familiar with. Looking forward to seeing her come together and learning a bit along the way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Tucker Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 I love the subject. As someone who has started a vacform kit of the Westland Welkin and is scratching his head as to how to proceed with the many jobs that need doing, I'll watch this with interest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted September 30, 2020 Author Share Posted September 30, 2020 The fuselage with some progress The main problem now is with keeping all surfaces smooth and aligned. The armchairs I have to construct from scratch... Regards J-W 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pin Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Good progress, Sir. This kit is in my "rather sooner than later" plans so I will be watching with interest 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted October 1, 2020 Author Share Posted October 1, 2020 Oops, I have to change colours of cockpit, it should be be gris-blue (blue-gray) J-W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOCKNEY Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Fantastic choice Jerzy Always a pleasure to see a vacform kit being built especially a Broplan one. Did the tail section come as a separate moulding, or have you sectioned the fuselage to carry out modifications to it ? cheers Pat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyGair Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 On 9/23/2020 at 7:57 AM, JWM said: Thank you gentlemen for good word for start... I am still building now also He 111z in STGB for He 111 I will have to share hobby time between them. Thus is particular scheme I want to do (from web site https://live.staticflickr.com/7049/6898270975_792fc23cff_z.jpg ) Looks like having still NMF or alu from bottom (originally they were all in NMF or alu) with some olive (green, khaki?) from top, the Lorrain crosses looks blue to me (with thin red outline) on, interesting are national colours not only on rudder but also on elevators and in strips below the registrations In a comment to this scheme of Goeland one can find "To evoke Allies airplanes as much as possible also in colours, they painted it with brownish-green colour reproducing the American shade Olive Drab on its upper and lateral surfaces. Analogously also the bottom surfaces with grey colour. Also some French variant of invasion strips appeared on this machine, although this airplane had not taken part in any disembarkation of course. " So it seems that upper colour is not any pre-war French one bet the French imitation of Olive Drab or even directly - American OD... Any advises or suggestions on this scheme welcomed. Regards J-W Very interesting project. As for colour I would go with either an Olive Drab top over Grey, or maybe that Dark Brown colour on top, I think it's called 'Terre de Sienne' (Burnt Sienna). Davey. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted October 2, 2020 Author Share Posted October 2, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, JOCKNEY said: Did the tail section come as a separate moulding, or have you sectioned the fuselage to carry out modifications to it ? cheers Pat It is separate mould. One have to be careful with it - the step is deeper than thickness of plastic so I added some thin pieces to align surfaces of rear fuselage with main part. Here the sense of this split is I think just in reduction of form size. Machine is not small (~20 {edit 22} x29 m in original, bigger then Wellington) so maybe beyong normal capacity for size. Similar construction is with Broplan Savoia SM 75, but in that case there are variants with different tail, so such split is better motivated. Regards Jerzy-Wojtek Edited October 2, 2020 by JWM correction of mistake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jean Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 A Broplan kit of such a big plane? Impressive does not come anywhere near. It is a superb plane and yes, the free French made use of a few of them in North Africa. A very non-warrior looking machine. Good luck! JR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted October 7, 2020 Author Share Posted October 7, 2020 I am slowly detailing the passenger cabin, air crew compartment and pilot cockpit Chairs are from Esci Dakota (one set is cut by half to get a row of single armchairs) courtesy of @KRK4m - many thanks!) . In crew compartment some shelves are added, in pilot cockpit the navigator/radio operator chair and desk are added (as well as radio). It will be continued. Regards J-W 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted October 11, 2020 Author Share Posted October 11, 2020 The details of passenger cabin are added. I assumed, that despite war since machine was used for transport rather 3 stars generals then troops the inside remained luxury. Maybe I am wrong, but I had not data about it... The curtains are from plumber teflon tape. I found it the best, although you cannot paint it, so only white can be... I will close the passenger part of fuselage, since the pilot cockpit can be still detailed/corrected until the canopy is not covered on it. Regards Jerzy-Wojtek 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
occa Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 What an awesome subject again J.W. !!! Please take notice the cross of Lorraine must be the French roundel blue here and not red in case Sorry for being a smartass 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted October 11, 2020 Author Share Posted October 11, 2020 35 minutes ago, occa said: What an awesome subject again J.W. !!! Please take notice the cross of Lorraine must be the French roundel blue here and not red in case Sorry for being a smartass Martin, thank you. Of course - the quality of photo is enough good to notice that the Lorrain crosses are the same color as middle of insignia, it is obvious that it is blue and the thin circle around it is red. Due to COVID my duty trip to Vienna is again postponed. Looks that all will be done during remote talks... Regards Jerzy-Wojtek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted October 11, 2020 Author Share Posted October 11, 2020 (edited) I glued wing, adding on leading and trailing edges additional "spars" made of frames The fuselage is glued together, wings are just set to it without glue. Looks how big is Dewoitine 338 - here with comparison of Airfix Sunderland fuselage halves (left on my desk after construction of Empire during spring lockdown. My kit of this machine has on the top of right wind some kind of shallow scarf (it will be seen under paint for sure) , It can be seen on photo from my first post above. I put some Tamiya filler overthere to fill it . The width of fuselage I adjusted with scaler to match cockpit canopy width. It looks that you do not need to remove thickness of the plastic plate (what I did and now I have to fill the gap with putty) Regards J-W Edited October 11, 2020 by JWM 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted October 15, 2020 Author Share Posted October 15, 2020 When I tried to glue wings a problem appeared with it- they got some swept seen in position of main spar. So I have to glue them only at leading edge and on back I will enlarge fairing. If somone will construct this kit my suggestion is to reinforce more the roof and bottom of fuselage, because the plastic is very thin. I did not done it and I suffer a bit with this... Regards J-W 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted October 16, 2020 Author Share Posted October 16, 2020 I glued canopy (after some improvements like seat belts inside) and tail plane as well as did some putty work with wing-fuselage fairings Regards J-W 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted October 17, 2020 Author Share Posted October 17, 2020 Meanwhile I glued wheels, side engines gondola and cowlings, painted also engines. Some work is needed to align the surface of front of cowling with the end of engine. Despite the guiding lines engraved to help positioning of side engines gondola I thought that adding some stretched plastic rods will help in this, later it will look ok in gondola as well: It really helped with positioning of gondolas the canopy fuselage joins needs a lot of putty work That is all so far with it Regards J-W 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted October 23, 2020 Author Share Posted October 23, 2020 I have detailed tail, small side additional fins and struts supporting from bottom Using file I sanded and shaped props, like in many other Frnch machines the rotation of left prop is counterclockwise (the same central) and right one is clockwise. I sanded also cowlings and trimmed diameter of engines to fit the cowlings I have nice French booklet on transport machines in French AF during WW2 There are some drawings and photos of Dewoitine. It can be observed, that the machine operated in Africa had larger, tropical airfilters So I cut out the air intakes done in model I started to do the tropical one On Polish e-bay portal Allegro I've bought decals for Farman 223.4 I hope they will be useful here To be continued Regards J-W 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOCKNEY Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Hi Jerzy Great progress so far, I didn't know Broplan kits were such a struggle, or that they didn't come with decals. Thanks for the tip on Allegro, I'll have a look. Best of luck. Cheers Pat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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