Richard Tucker Posted September 30, 2020 Author Share Posted September 30, 2020 Amateur question - Before I make a terrible mistake and put the engine it the wrong way up.... is this the right way up? the instructions and photos I've seen aren't helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alt-92 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Usually the magneto housing (?) is on top on most radials. I find it handy to look up what type engine it is, then go look for other aircraft that use the same engine(s). In this case, it's also used on S.79s and the Fiat BR.20. A 14 cylinder precursor was used in the Fiat CR.42 and there's a good shot on Wikimedia : 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbody Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 This help? The photos above are from: Ali d Italia 7 - Breda Ba-65 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_A.80 Chris 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Tucker Posted October 5, 2020 Author Share Posted October 5, 2020 Some progress was made over the weekend. I've attached upper wing surfaces and tailplanes and have sprayed the primer (Vallejo grey). I think sprayed the panel lines with some dark gray vallejo paint and have done the first top coat of Middle Stone The next task is another light coat of middle stone and a coat of grey underneath while I wait for the pastels to arrive in the post. In the past I've sprayed Italian camo blotches in the past (Fiat G50bis) and I've hand painted a couple of Reggaine fighters. This time I'll try pastels 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoftScience Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 This was interesting to read through. I really enjoy watching others build short run kits, as the WIP threads are a treasure trove of tricks and tips on how to handle problem areas. I'm surprised this model has had so few. Things are looking really nice. And those seatbelts look great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Tucker Posted October 5, 2020 Author Share Posted October 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, SoftScience said: This was interesting to read through. I really enjoy watching others build short run kits, as the WIP threads are a treasure trove of tricks and tips on how to handle problem areas. I'm surprised this model has had so few. Things are looking really nice. And those seatbelts look great! Thank you. The fit is surprisingly good for all the parts so far. The worst is the cockpit with its complicated shape but it still fits better than many I've done. I'm looking at you AModel Wildcatfish....... The next challenge will be the camo. The pastels are on order 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alt-92 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 32 minutes ago, Richard Tucker said: I'm looking at you AModel Wildcatfish....... Thanks for the warning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Regarding the colour scheme of these aircraft in Nothern Africa, information seems to be contradictory... The upper surfaces of the Ba.65 were originally in a 3-colour scheme. However when the aircraft were sent to the front they received a coat of sand. Which sand, it is not recorded. Some mention how this single coat left the original 3 colours faintly visible. however most pictures seem to show only the overcoat... so much that the paint scheme as it is now on your model may well be a good representation as it is. The colour should be a bit more on the yellow side compared to RAF Mid Stone, but up to you if you want to go through the hassle of searching a different colour It is however known that a number of aircraft received sparse blotches in probably a dark green, that should be the scheme shown in your kit instructions. This is also proved by pictures, On how best reproduce these, it all depends on each modeller skills. The undersurfaces are also not clear... originally these were in aluminum paint, however there is evidence that these aircraft when sent to North Africa seem to have had grey undersurfaces and if it were my model I'd use this, The Italian grey of the era was similar to FS 36231 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Tucker Posted October 9, 2020 Author Share Posted October 9, 2020 On 10/7/2020 at 4:33 PM, Giorgio N said: Regarding the colour scheme of these aircraft in Nothern Africa, information seems to be contradictory... The upper surfaces of the Ba.65 were originally in a 3-colour scheme. However when the aircraft were sent to the front they received a coat of sand. Which sand, it is not recorded. Some mention how this single coat left the original 3 colours faintly visible. however most pictures seem to show only the overcoat... so much that the paint scheme as it is now on your model may well be a good representation as it is. The colour should be a bit more on the yellow side compared to RAF Mid Stone, but up to you if you want to go through the hassle of searching a different colour It is however known that a number of aircraft received sparse blotches in probably a dark green, that should be the scheme shown in your kit instructions. This is also proved by pictures, On how best reproduce these, it all depends on each modeller skills. The undersurfaces are also not clear... originally these were in aluminum paint, however there is evidence that these aircraft when sent to North Africa seem to have had grey undersurfaces and if it were my model I'd use this, The Italian grey of the era was similar to FS 36231 Thank you for the advice. I've tried airbrushing direct the dark green colour for the first time after I couldn't get a good blotch with the pastels. I'm pleased with the results so far. I have a few more to do and then the upper parts are done. I will look at your suggestion for FS36231 for the grey colour. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Tucker Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 Some more progress over the weekend. I've painted the undersides Vallejo Dark Gull Gray which corresponds to FS36231. I'm pleased with that. The upper camo is done. The cowling wasn't a good fit. The 3 pieces don't go together well and I'm not pleased with the outcome. I might try some more filling and light sanding to improve it. The line in the picture looks worse than it actually is but this is the worst part of the kit. A one piece cowling would have been much better. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Nice job on the camouflage Richard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Impressive work on the camouflage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Tucker Posted October 15, 2020 Author Share Posted October 15, 2020 Some more progress since yesterday on the engine area and the canopy. I'm pleased with the Peewit masking.. It has worked a treat. It kept the paint where it should be and came off easily. I might need a tiny bit of filler around the canopy front edge. The wheels are on and it stands on its undercarriage for the first time. There are a multitude of smaller bits to glue on but first I'll paint the exhausts and then I'll spray it with some Future in preparation for the decals. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Looking really good, even at that stage. Steve. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOCKNEY Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Really looks the business, congratulations. Just the KUTA to start my own one for this GB, but without the posh paintjob your one is now sporting. Cheers Pat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyOD Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Looking great. Axis camo jobs terrify me but you've nailed it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Tucker Posted October 21, 2020 Author Share Posted October 21, 2020 Lots of progress over the last weekend. I sprayed the whole model with Future and did all the decals. They went on with no bother at all. I used the Mig panel liner - Sand to enhance the panel lines. Here is a photo of one side done, the other side untouched. The top is done Once all the panel lines were done and cleaned, I weathered it a little with some silver paint and Dark Earth pencils from Ammo Mig. I stuck the last few bits on including the prop and guns. The outer guns are from plastic rod. Lastly, these extra bits and pieces were painted and I'm calling it done 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Looks brilliant. I'm now looking forward to the day I can see my way clear to doing my one. Steve 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbody Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Nice! Chris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Fantastic job 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Nifty nifty indeed. You did a superb job on this kit. Lovely paint, excellent and simple (non-persnickety) build. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMF Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Lovely paint job! I think you have nailed the green over sand with a less-is-more approach. Gorgeous. Regards, Adrian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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