Doccur Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Hello everyone. It’s about time I kicked off my first build in the WIP section. All of my previous’ builds have been in the Group Builds section but I wanted to do something different. (Mainly because the aircraft I am building falls out of the Battle of Britain GB remit) I will be building this: Eduard’s brand new 1/48 Spitfire. I will not post any sprue shots as many of those have been put up recently. To put simply, the kit looks lovely in the box and after a dry fit of the fuselage halves it appears to fit exquisitely too. I will be utilising the Eduard PE flap set: Something which I have never dabbled in.. so that may be a horror story in the making. (I am aware these wouldn’t usually be deployed on the ground) The aircraft I hope to depict is an aircraft Douglas Bader flew when with 222 squadron in May 1940. Any info as to the fidelity of this colour scheme would be appreciated. Specially would the silver area be natural metal or silver lacquer? As usual, feel free to dip in where you like, all comments will be well received although I am no rivet counter!!! Cheers Ash 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(ex)Sgtrafman Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Hiya - Spitfires of that period were painted with aluminium paint (source Camouflage and Markings 39 - 45) HTH. iain. oh and I’m looking forward to your build 😎👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbadge Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Hi Ash This looks like a lovely kit good luck with your build. Chris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 10 hours ago, Doccur said: 222 squadron in May 1940. I don't know if there is a pic of P9443, or if Eduard have gone for a 'best guess' from available data, @lasermonkey may know. the reason I say best guess, is P9317 ZD-A, was damaged and force landed at Le Touquet airfiedl on 1 June 1940, and was captured. And, extensively photographed this shows the Aluminium paint and red band under nose There are more photos here, and give a good feel for a plane from the squadron in the same era, if you did this actual plane it would be a good excuse for dropped flaps interesting thread on the pilot as well. 6 hours ago, (ex)Sgtrafman said: Spitfires of that period were painted with aluminium paint (source Camouflage and Markings 39 - 45) the reference Iain refers to is available here https://boxartden.com/reference/gallery/index.php/Modeling-References/Camoflage-Markings/01-Supermarine-Spitfire well worth a read, still one of the best guides on the subject. HTH 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(ex)Sgtrafman Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 As ever @Troy Smith you are a wealth of some very useful information. Cheers Iain 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasermonkey Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 I haven't found any photos of P9443 on my computer, though I haven't checked any of my books as yet. However, on the Fündekals Early Spitfires Pt 2 sheet this machine is included and they mention several details (including the red stripe) that infers that they have seen a photo. I have found them to be amongst the better decal manufacturers when it comes to research, so I would trust them in this case. I would like to see that photo though! Cheers, Mark. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doccur Posted September 18, 2020 Author Share Posted September 18, 2020 Thankyou all for you help, those photos are a great guide for my painting! @Troy Smith Specifically I am glad you can see the undercarriage doors are the underside colours. I hadn’t realised how much of a these aircraft were before now! Hoping to get the cockpit sprayed this weekend so will post some pics then. Ash 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doccur Posted September 20, 2020 Author Share Posted September 20, 2020 Well, plastic has been cut and paint sprayed. The parts are designed very well and fit together excellently. Some of the PE is a bit fiddly but does just the job. After getting a few parts together I sprayed some Vallejo polyurethane primer and then after that I sprayed Mig Ammo Interior green and Vallejo aluminium. Can’t wait to get a wash on and really bring out all that lovely detail. On a side note the interior green looks a bit pale to me (I’m used to Humbrol 78) can anybody vouch for the authenticity of the shade? Ash 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alt-92 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Is that the MIG 219? It's a slightly blueish grey-green when compared to for instance Vallejo's 71.126. But light enough for it's purpose. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doccur Posted September 20, 2020 Author Share Posted September 20, 2020 Yes that’s the one @alt-92. Looks a bit better after another inspection. It was just a bit lighter than I anticipated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alt-92 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 I thought Hu.78 to be too dark anyway Funny, I like the MIG colour, it's just that they smell weird to me so I prefer to spray Vallejo ModelAir. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doccur Posted September 21, 2020 Author Share Posted September 21, 2020 It has grown on me! @alt-92 I thought the same about the paint, reminds me of poster paint at primary school... takes me back in a nice way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doccur Posted September 23, 2020 Author Share Posted September 23, 2020 Had a little more time to tinker with the spitfire this evening... had a nice couple of hours painting and a little bit of assembly. Got the two lap belts onto the seat and also put together the instrument panel... what a lovely piece that is! Here we are at close of play: That’s the good news 😬 The bad news is that I went to use an enamel wash on the other fuselage half and it reacted very badly with the paint! 😭 so long story short I will now have to repaint the other side of the fuselage, fortunately I didn’t apply the wash anywhere else so the job isn’t too large : Cheers, Ash 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doccur Posted September 30, 2020 Author Share Posted September 30, 2020 Well it’s been a week since my last update so here we are: I resprayed the side of the fuselage interior that I mucked up. Did some more detail painting including drybrushing and a grey wash (acrylic this time) 😓 I added some copper wire and deviated from the instructions a little bit by adding the spare lightbulb holder another piece of widgetry. I used @Ray_W’s build as inspiration for this. Whilst doing this I also kept myself busy by cutting off the flaps to make way for the PE set... easy does it!!! 😬😬 Eduard provide two templates for the cutting which fit excellently and with which I held in place with tape. Quite a tedious job but one which will be worth it in the end! ( if I don’t balls it up!) I haven’t even finished one side yet! Any comments are welcome! Cheers, Ash 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_W Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Hi Ash, You're making nice progress. Just a small correction. You have duplicated the reflector gunsight bulbs and the Indicator Light Morse Key. With the hand pump undercarriage there is no need for them high on the starboard wall just to the left of the remote contactor. They were moved there with the motor driven hydraulics. Eduard represent them already, correctly, in the lower sidewall. Morse key below the remote contactor and spare bulbs forward. Ray. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doccur Posted September 30, 2020 Author Share Posted September 30, 2020 40 minutes ago, Ray_W said: You have duplicated the reflector gunsight bulbs and the Indicator Light Morse Key. Rats! Now I look closer I can see them! Luckily it’s a pretty easy fix. Thanks for your help! I am enjoying your build by the way! I am tentative about using these Eduard Decals however... Ash 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_W Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, Doccur said: I am tentative about using these Eduard Decals however... 😬 I share your concern. Actually, the top side roundel went on quite nicely. I think with perseverance the result would be quite nice. Ray 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_ Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 I've got this kit waiting in the [never ending?] build queue, so I shall tag along and see how things go if I may. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_W Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Just now, Matt_ said: I've got this kit waiting in the [never ending?] build queue, so I shall tag along and see how things go if I may. Matt, move it up the queue, it's a delight. Ray 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_ Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Ray_W said: Matt, move it up the queue, it's a delight. Ray Yessir! It's a toss-up next between this and the Tamiya MP4/5B that I'm waiting for some aftermarket for. Maybe I'll just start both. 🤔 EDIT: I shall also check out your build. 👀 Edited September 30, 2020 by Matt_ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doccur Posted September 30, 2020 Author Share Posted September 30, 2020 17 minutes ago, Matt_ said: I've got this kit waiting in the [never ending?] build queue, so I shall tag along and see how things go if I may. You’re very welcome Matt! Also I second Ray’s comments! Move it up the queue it’s a delight! Ash 20 minutes ago, Ray_W said: 😬 I share your concern. Actually, the top side roundel went on quite nicely. I think with perseverance the result would be quite nice. Ray Forewarned is forearmed I guess 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alt-92 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Doccur said: I am tentative about using these Eduard Decals however... Treat them as normal decals. That whole 'remove the film' bit is more a side-effect and it's not mentioned as such in the instructions after all. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doccur Posted September 30, 2020 Author Share Posted September 30, 2020 Yes I think that’s probably for the best @alt-92! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles87 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 I like the extra details you’re adding to the cockpit. I don’t have this kit, but is the landing light control which fits under the left side of the instrument panel included? This was quite prominent on early Spitfires. I also see that you have painted the ridged panels below the entry door ( they were actually covers for control lines ) in black and I’m not sure that this was the case on Mk1 Spitfires but as you say it’s a . A tip I picked up from another Eduard Spitfire build is that it’s easier to build up the multi-part under wing radiator on the wing rather than putting it together first, hope I’m not too late. John PS nearly forgot, but you’ve probably already picked it up from Ray’s build, the rivets from leading edge to main spar were filled and smoothed, like on a P-51. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treker_ed Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 34 minutes ago, Biggles87 said: tip I picked up from another Eduard Spitfire build is that it’s easier to build up the multi-part under wing radiator on the wing rather than putting it together first That's the way I've always built up the radiators on Eduard Spitfires. Less fiddly, and you can use the wing structure as a template to guide. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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