bar side Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 That looks good - go together easy enough? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Riot Posted September 25, 2020 Author Share Posted September 25, 2020 So far it's been a really nice fit, hardly any sanding needed and no filler (yet!). I think with Phantoms any issues tend to be the intake area, so I'll see when it comes to those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phildagreek Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 I built this years ago, used some aftermarket seats which was a waste of money as they didn’t fit and had to be sanded down, some aftermarket decals for Spangdalheim (spelt that wrong I bet) as the kit ones were done and a couple of HARMs from somewhere. Lovely kit, but you’re right about the intakes, I ended up bodging/scratching some intake covers to hide the nightmare inside. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotthldr Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 (edited) On 9/23/2020 at 10:50 PM, Lord Riot said: There's a huge missile included but it looks a bit silly as it's so big even on a Phantom, looks the wrong scale so I'll leave that off. That will be an AGM-78 SRAM, forerunner of the AGM-88 HARM. It was a beast of a missile. Common training load out on the ‘Spang’ jets was one AGM-45 ‘Shrike’ and the AGM-78, although it was very common to have these swapped out with an AGM-65 ‘Maverick’ on a single launch rail. Can’t recall seeing AIM-9’s being carried but can remember AIM-7’s in the rear recesses only. I think I’m correct in saying if the inner wing pylons had any form of AGM fitted on it, then AIM-9’s couldn’t be fitted due to fin clearance issues. The ALQ-119 was always carried in the front port fuselage recess(I’m thinking back 35yrs so memory is a bit foggy). Edited September 26, 2020 by scotthldr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Riot Posted September 26, 2020 Author Share Posted September 26, 2020 Thanks @scotthldr, that's great info, just what I needed! Did you work at Spangdahlem? I'll go with an AGM-45 and AGM-65 on the inner pylons then, and just the two AIM-7s. Were training rounds still all over white? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Riot Posted September 26, 2020 Author Share Posted September 26, 2020 I'm calling the cockpit done for now. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAT69 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 That cockpit is an outstanding piece of work. I'm very impressed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Riot Posted September 26, 2020 Author Share Posted September 26, 2020 Thank you @SAT69! The Eduard etching set brings it to life almost. Seats are just the kit ones though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotthldr Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 (edited) No didn't work at Spang, just used to see them as frequent visitors to RAF Lossiemouth back in the day. For the AGM-65(I'm fairly sure they would've been the 'D' variant in the mid 80's), you'll need the single launch rail called the LAU-117, I'm pretty sure I've got a couple spare along with some AGM-65's that I can send down to you free gratis. Not sure when the AGM-88 'HARM', was rolled out to the 52nd but they were using them by 1988 and these would've supplemented the AGM-45 'Shrike', I don't think the -45 and -88 would've been carried together(although someone will probably prove me wrong), I've got some -88's spare as well that you can have. It was also common for the 52nd jets to fly day to day training missions without the wing tanks installed, relying on the centre line tank only. For this you'll need the high-g style tank similar to that seen on the F-15, this should be in the kit as sprue 'R'. As for colours, the AIM-7 and AGM-45 would've been White, the AGM-65 either White or Olive Drab and AGM-88 are FS36622. I mentioned the ALQ-119 earlier but from looking at photos it would appear that the ALQ-131(deep), would be more appropriate for a 52nd jet. Eduard do a nice one https://www.eduard.com/eduard/brassin/aircraft/1-48/an-alq-131-(deep)-ecm-pod-1-48.html. PM me your address and I'll look to get the bits down to you later in the week. Edited September 26, 2020 by scotthldr 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Riot Posted September 26, 2020 Author Share Posted September 26, 2020 Fantastic @scotthldr, thanks for the info and missiles offer, very much appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Very nice cockpit. Quite excited to get on to mine now, but I think back to back Phantoms would be too much. Plus the RF brings the count to 6, so will save lucky 7 for later 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmsp73 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Riot Posted September 28, 2020 Author Share Posted September 28, 2020 Fuselage fits together well. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Riot Posted September 30, 2020 Author Share Posted September 30, 2020 I've sanded down the erroneous bumps on top of the wings. Thanks for that info @Filler. Would have been a pain sanding them once the wings were attached, and even worse after painting! I blended in that long nose too, the fit is good but it just needed a bit of gentle sanding to really smooth it in. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Riot Posted October 1, 2020 Author Share Posted October 1, 2020 Looking a bit more like a Phantom now. The intakes fitted really well, best I've known on a Phantom kit, and the wings fitted nicely too. You definitely get what you pay for with model kits don't you; Hasegawa prices = world class fit and detail. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Riot Posted October 1, 2020 Author Share Posted October 1, 2020 Sealed up ready for spraying. I'll probably do the grey first, then olive green (Tamiya AS-14) then the dark green (AS-13). Handpainted the silver areas around the tail first this time, with Humbrol metallic silver. Any comments or advice welcome as painting is my worst 'skill'. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Riot Posted October 2, 2020 Author Share Posted October 2, 2020 Tamiya 'Gunship Grey' sprayed. Looking very scruffy now but I'll spray the first of the greens tomorrow. Blu-tack worms at the ready! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Riot Posted October 3, 2020 Author Share Posted October 3, 2020 The grey is sealed up ready for a break in the weather to spray the dark green. The Phantom will be exactly the same colours as my Euro I camo A-10; is that correct? Tamiya AS-13 Green (USAF) dark green Tamiya AS-14 Olive green (USAF) and Tamiya AS-27 Gunship gray 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jens Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 No, those colours are not correct. European I F-4s were painted FS34079, FS34102 and FS36081. The former two colours are the same as in the standard SEA scheme. You will not find a correct match for those colours in the Tamiya range. Jens 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Riot Posted October 3, 2020 Author Share Posted October 3, 2020 21 minutes ago, Jens said: No, those colours are not correct. European I F-4s were painted FS34079, FS34102 and FS36081. The former two colours are the same as in the standard SEA scheme. You will not find a correct match for those colours in the Tamiya range. Jens Are there any spray cans that do match? The olive green and the gunship grey look pretty close, but I do think the AS-13 is a little too dark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 I think you need to go with the colours you are happy with. The A-10 looked good so stick with it. The only thing for certain with Euro One was that it looked different under just about every type of lighting. I tended to the Bentwaters A-10 colours rather than the exact colour codes, mainly because I like the way that A-10 looks. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 And just for comparison - different light 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Riot Posted October 3, 2020 Author Share Posted October 3, 2020 Cheers chaps! Those Phantoms do look almost the same colours as my A-10, depending on the light! I think what I have should be close enough perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phildagreek Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Looks good, maybe it’s fresh out of the paint shop or due to go in? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Riot Posted October 4, 2020 Author Share Posted October 4, 2020 I decided to go for it with the paints I have, while the sun is out - good weather for spray painting. This is the dark green, with the grey masked up. Just the olive green to spray next after masking the dark green. It's nice and quick drying. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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