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80 years ago today - Battle of Britain Day


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Yes it does well to reflect on those events 80 years ago today and in the weeks and months before and afterwards too.  Quite momentous.  Its not often that a conflict will change the destiny of the world but that's what happened.   Had the RAF and the support network failed in preventing the Luftwaffe obtaining air superiority or supremacy over the South coast and Channel the next round would have been the Royal Navy trying to hold off the invasion ships.  I suspect the RN would have done it but at what cost?  Crete, the Med, Singapore and the Far East with the USN and Imperial Japanese navy experience all showed that surface ships were at an extreme disadvantage without air cover by 1940 onwards.  And if the Wehrmacht had gained a foothold who knows how the cards might have played.  I suspect that Britain would have made peace terms with Germany without Churchill who would have gone from office long before, on whatever grounds we might have managed.  It wouldn't have been pretty and the Germans would have had a free hand in the east.  The US would have remained isolationist far longer and ended with fighting in the Far east with Japan.  Two power blocks perhaps US and Germany?  

 

The world could have been a very different place to the one we have today.  We owe them all a great deal.  I wonder how many know that today?

 

I watched "Spitfire" on the tv last night.  Very sad to see those old boys and girls in the very twilight of their years and knowing that they had passed away since that program was made a year or so ago.  It wasn't that long ago we lost the last person who recalled 1914-1918.  It wont be long before WW2 passes into the history books as well.

 

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Classic FM this evening at 8pm have a special concert to celebrate the 80th anniversary of the Battle of Britain.

 

Starting with the RAF March Past, Spitfire Prelude & Fugue, Battle of Britain Suite, and will include 633 Squadron, Nimrod (Elgar), Beethoven's 5th, and finish with the Evening Hymn, Last post & Sunset.

 

I think it will be a highly emotional evening for very many of us!

 

I for one will be listening from 8pm onwards.

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Nicked of FB but true

 

Today is when we remember "The Few", but where would "The Few" be without "The Many" on the Ground, making sure "The Few" got there in the first place? Huzzah! for the hairy arsed blokes with spanners, hammers, belts of ammo, tankers full of avgas and soldering irons, and Hip-Hip Hooray for the women on Plotting Tables, on Radios, In Offices and Parachute Bays!! Here's to the only Service sensible enough to send just it's Officers and it's SNCO's to war!

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8 hours ago, Julien said:

Here's to the only Service sensible enough to send just it's Officers and it's SNCO's to war!

 

Except as was noted on the Antiques Roadshow special the missus was watching, those same groundcrew, WAAF plotters etc were also in the front line, with over 40 being killed in the worst day of raids on Biggin.

 

You're right though, we WILL remember them too...

 

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And let us also not forget the crews of Bomber and Coastal Commands, taking the fight back to Germany, attacking invasion barge concentrations and airfield, and laying mines to keep the German navy in port.

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48 minutes ago, Heather Kay said:

And let us also not forget the crews of Bomber and Coastal Commands,

 Indeed, one could make an argument that the Hampden and Whitley were the aircraft that won the BoB as the raid on Berlin in August resulted in Hitler ordering Luftwaffe attacks to concentrate on cities rather than airfields, thus giving Fighter Command a chance to recover. Yes, a lot of conjecture in that, but it is an element of the battle that is seldom mentioned ... perhaps because it was effectively invisible to the British, perhaps because praise for Bomber Command became unfashionable. Not that this is intended to  take anything away from the achievments of Fighter Command

 

Cheers

 

Colin

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And let’s not overlook the Anti-Aircraft Command Gunners of the R.A. all too often forgotten. 
 

Here’s what Basil Liddell Hart said in his ‘History of the Second World War’;

 

”If they bought down relatively few German bombers in the Battle of Britain they added much to the strain on the attackers by their upsetting effect in general, and on bombing accuracy in particular.”

 

Ubique! 

 

 

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The Boy Scouts and the Grandpas who took up wooden weapons to help fend off the feared invasion.

The people who sat through the dread that France has fallen and England is next.

To me, there is no question but that everyone in England was a part of the "Battle of Britain"

 

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5 hours ago, Tzulscha said:

everyone in England

 

....actually also Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland.... We were still the United Kingdom then. :)

 

Keith

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