RJ-WobblyHands Posted October 2, 2020 Author Share Posted October 2, 2020 (edited) This weeks update : The flaps jigsaw puzzle solved and constructed And the outer pylons have also been put together - though these need attacking with a knife, maybe a little putty and a sanding stick to 'RAFize' them - remove the sway braces top and bottom , remove and then add some detail Finally opened the Flightpath tanks and pod set - this looks fun - this Tornado will officially have more PE on it than the other 16 kits I have built combined since returning to this hobby ! Edited October 2, 2020 by RJ-WobblyHands mad images smaller ! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christer A Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 RAF-ize the pylons? I guess they're correct for an IDS, but how and needs to be modded for a RAF Tonka? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ-WobblyHands Posted October 2, 2020 Author Share Posted October 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Christer A said: RAF-ize the pylons? I guess they're correct for an IDS, but how and needs to be modded for a RAF Tonka? The tabs that point out at 90 degrees top and bottom will need removing and there is a gentle bulge rather than the stepped appearance of the kit supplied , as below from the GR4 at Elvington (my photo from last Saturday) 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappy Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 20 hours ago, RJ-WobblyHands said: This weeks update : The flaps jigsaw puzzle solved and constructed And the outer pylons have also been put together - though these need attacking with a knife, maybe a little putty and a sanding stick to 'RAFize' them - remove the sway braces top and bottom , remove and then add some detail Finally opened the Flightpath tanks and pod set - this looks fun - this Tornado will officially have more PE on it than the other 16 kits I have built combined since returning to this hobby ! G'day RJ, I don't think you got the flaps c orrect. You have the flapvanes ( the uppermost section that extends when the fllaps extend) correct, but I think that both the lower sections should be at the same level and the seam filled. You have 'stepped' the lower section effectively making the flaps a triple slotted Fowler design, which in reality is a double slotted design. The Revell instructions are not very clear but if you have a look at the BM wallkaround section you will see what I mean, cheers, Pappy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ-WobblyHands Posted October 3, 2020 Author Share Posted October 3, 2020 6 hours ago, Pappy said: G'day RJ, I don't think you got the flaps c orrect. You have the flapvanes ( the uppermost section that extends when the fllaps extend) correct, but I think that both the lower sections should be at the same level and the seam filled. You have 'stepped' the lower section effectively making the flaps a triple slotted Fowler design, which in reality is a double slotted design. The Revell instructions are not very clear but if you have a look at the BM wallkaround section you will see what I mean, cheers, Pappy I knew it was all going too well !!! ******* grrrr , I know what I am doing tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappy Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 12 hours ago, RJ-WobblyHands said: I knew it was all going too well !!! ******* grrrr , I know what I am doing tomorrow G'day RJ, Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. I saw a You Tube vid where the builder (Nigel something?) specifically mentions raising the segments to create a gap (as you have done) - probably the same one that you have seen which may explain why you made the error. The builder's build sequence is actually very good and avoids most of the fit issues that can result if the kit instruction sequence is followed so the vids are very useful, unfortunately the flap error may also influence others to make the same mistake. Hopefully you can remedy the situation without too much loss of detail, cheers, Pappy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ-WobblyHands Posted October 6, 2020 Author Share Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) Flaps recovered and now look like a set of Tornado flaps ( thanks @Pappy ) , some work on the pylons and the Boz Pod Resin Wing Seals in place and wings fixed at the forward position ,I had thought about getting the extra 5Degrees forward sweep , but nobody I know, who will see the displayed model will look at it and say they are not far enough forward ( and that includes a a 617 Squadron 'back seat driver' from the 1980's - when camo was cool and wrap around !! ) The seams when buttoning her up all came out 99% ok - a little mr surfacer 500 & light sand is needed in a couple of places , but other than that no steps (went together almost like a Tamiya kit 😜 ) Edited October 6, 2020 by RJ-WobblyHands 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappy Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Great save RJ and lovely work to boot! Pappy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlin Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Nice progress RJ. Good work on the seams. /Bosse 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Tidy work RJ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Nice recovery on the flaps. I thin that Revell in their wisdom got the part numbers the wrong way around. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacificmustang Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Progressing nicely . Great save on the flaps, if it’s any consolation, I did the same when building mine based on the same video. Disappointing indeed given the builder is from the IPMS Tornado SIG, so you would imagine should know the jet🤔 He’s also incorrect in stating glue the intake ramps, part D31 in the fully down position, as they should be in the up position on a parked jet from what my references tell me. @Pappy saved me from “Flap embarrassment” as well 😀 That said, following Nathan’s build sequence certainly rewards the builder with a quick relatively hassle free build. I further modified his build sequence by adding the side fuselage panels to the bottom plate before the wheel wells and trunking. This, IMO allows you to get a cleaner join as you can get glue to the entire length of the join unhindered by the wheel wells or trunking. Bruce 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ-WobblyHands Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 More Progress was made in the week and weekend thanks to the grim weather here Not sure I should say progress it was more like a fight to the death ... I think one of the airbrakes came from a different model of aircraft - the moulded shape was not the same as either of the parts it was connecting to , some gentle persuasion and a little filler has sorted that out. The big fin attached nicely again taking it nice and slowly there were no steps ,just a little gap at the front that was filled and smoothed. The covers over the swing wing mechanism fitted nicely together , a light sand to remove the tabs for the krueger flaps which have been built closed (I have not seen a parked shutdown Tornado with them open) I will do a little work on the intakes this week to tidy them up , but as I will making some FOD covers , I will not spend much time in there More pictures soon 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christer A Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Gosh, you're almost ready to prime it! Great work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Gone together very well. If I remember rightly the RAF Kruger flaps were disabled, so they were permanently shut. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayBee Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Jabba said: Gone together very well. If I remember rightly the RAF Kruger flaps were disabled, so they were permanently shut. Same for German Tornados. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ-WobblyHands Posted October 15, 2020 Author Share Posted October 15, 2020 So this week has been Bang Seat time - I have used the CMK Seats and they have come out fairly well - they look better than the kits seats so I am happy but when dropped in the cockpit they look like they are too low about 2-3mm , when looking at pictures of Tornado's the top of the seats are close to the canopy, therefore I am 3d printing a booster for them And that looks better 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Your seats look great! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin W Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Yes definitely a great job of the seats 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ-WobblyHands Posted October 17, 2020 Author Share Posted October 17, 2020 (edited) Having a little play this morning with the Navigators consoles , added some wires - though I doubt they will be seen with the canopy down And from the rear - note if using the Eduard coloured PE replacement has to be added upside down - the 2 small dials are above the main Nav display not below as the instructions would have you install it , therefore I modded the kit part to be flat - the bevel shape is the screen shade at the top , from the walk around pictures I have seen A little weathering and that will be cockpit complete - just need to glue in pilot seat and add control column ! Edited October 17, 2020 by RJ-WobblyHands 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 I really like your wiring! I definitley do not have the patience to do that.... or brakeline wires that is.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Very good work on the seats and in the cockpit area. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ-WobblyHands Posted October 19, 2020 Author Share Posted October 19, 2020 (edited) My weekend & today! modelling update. I have assembled the Hindenberg's and given the resin a light sand all over to reduce the raised panel weld lines ( I thought they were a little too large) , added some brass rod for fitting to the inner pylons and test fitted to them (LMRTS pod also there) . This led to the fuselage pylons and the difference between the euro IDS and RAF pylons ... plasticard , milliput files sanding sticks at the ready - then I thought (my wife always says this is dangerous ) ... I wonder if I could design and 3D print one (FDM printing I do not have a fancy resin printer) this is what I came up with ! Version 1 : about 0.5mm too deep (version 2 will correct that ) - looks OK when placed on underside of jet with IDS pylon for comparison Please ignore wheel well colour , it looked good before they were attached to the aircraft now look far too dark!! Edited October 19, 2020 by RJ-WobblyHands typos !! :) 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 More nice work there RJ. 3D printing certainly seems to be the way forward for scratch-building. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Like the fuselage pylons, well done in getting the look right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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