Triet Cam Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 51 minutes ago, modelling minion said: My next job is to get some paint on after fitting the front canopy, I just need to decide which paint to use. The decal sheet states FS 36440 which is US Navy Light Gull Grey but I have also seen where FS 36373 is quoted as the colour so any help on this would be greatly appreciated. You mean FS 36473 don't you? The Air Force called it ADC grey, or sometimes referred to COIN grey. The VNAF 1st 24 Skyraiders were from US Navy in the early 60's, where Lt Gull Grey was used. The ones came from USAF later on were COIN grey. So both colors called out are correct. Based on this old pic, I would say COIN grey is a good bet. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wimbledon99 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Here's another I missed! Sorry Craig, nice start though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted September 24, 2020 Author Share Posted September 24, 2020 10 hours ago, Triet Cam said: You mean FS 36473 don't you? The Air Force called it ADC grey, or sometimes referred to COIN grey. You are exactly right, don't know why I typed the wrong FS number. The aircraft I want to build looks like it has been painted in this colour rather than Light Gull Grey, it has certainly not got the white undersides of the very early US Navy scheme. Fortunately I think I have that colour in stock, which is good as I think it is the same colour for my T-28. 9 hours ago, wimbledon99 said: Here's another I missed! Sorry Craig, nice start though Thanks Nigel, there are a lot of builds on here so missing one or two is very easy to do, you want to try co-hosting it! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triet Cam Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 6 hours ago, modelling minion said: You are exactly right, don't know why I typed the wrong FS number. The aircraft I want to build looks like it has been painted in this colour rather than Light Gull Grey, it has certainly not got the white undersides of the very early US Navy scheme. Fortunately I think I have that colour in stock, which is good as I think it is the same colour for my T-28. Looks like Cutting Edge is callig out Lt Gull Grey, which is understandable. It can be confusing, especially 20 yrs ago when references were hard to find. Hopefully the photo above, which is one of the covered subject in the Cutting Edge decals, was not altered in any way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted September 24, 2020 Author Share Posted September 24, 2020 4 hours ago, Triet Cam said: Looks like Cutting Edge is callig out Lt Gull Grey, which is understandable. It can be confusing, especially 20 yrs ago when references were hard to find. Hopefully the photo above, which is one of the covered subject in the Cutting Edge decals, was not altered in any way. I don't think that the picture has been altered, the white and red on the props look right to me and the grey has a bluish tint to it which looks like ADC grey to my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 gee you have made some nice progress on her!! No that picture looks right colourwise, though that front cowling section looks to be a slightly darker colour...... or the panel between the cowling front and flaps is a lighter colour.....or it's just the light or me? One thing it does show though is how small those gun barrels look and how wrong Trumpie got them! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triet Cam Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 The center cowl panel was white, which was correctly depicted in the Cutting Edge decals. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted September 28, 2020 Author Share Posted September 28, 2020 7 hours ago, trickyrich said: gee you have made some nice progress on her!! No that picture looks right colourwise, though that front cowling section looks to be a slightly darker colour...... or the panel between the cowling front and flaps is a lighter colour.....or it's just the light or me? One thing it does show though is how small those gun barrels look and how wrong Trumpie got them! Cheers Rich, yes as Triet points out the centre section of the cowling was painted white on this aircraft, and others too. The gun barrels are indeed quite small and Monogram has done a good job on them, and so far I haven't broken any off! 4 hours ago, Triet Cam said: The center cowl panel was white, which was correctly depicted in the Cutting Edge decals. Yes that section is white. The Cutting Edge instructions and decals look pretty good accuracy wise and I can understand why they called out Light Gull Grey for the over all scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted September 28, 2020 Author Share Posted September 28, 2020 On 9/23/2020 at 9:59 PM, Triet Cam said: Based on this old pic Actually Triet, that is the very aircraft I want to build! I have been having a look online for other pics of her and have found her with slight varieties in the scheme. These revolve mainly around the colour of the central section of the engine cowling which seems to range from either white (as shown in the excellent picture above), ADC Grey or even black, here are the links to the pics; http://www.vnafmamn.com/aircraft/VNAF_skyraider14.jpg http://www.vnafmamn.com/aircraft/VNAF_skyraider13.jpg http://www.vnafmamn.com/aircraft/VNAF_A1H115.jpg Now I have to decide which to do! Any preferences guys? I also noticed that the larger weapons pylons on the first linked picture are white which is a nice little difference, and the flaps on the pics with black cowl parts are also white, well at least the STBD one is. Now would this be the same on the other side or a replacement from another aircraft in the earlier US Navy scheme? Any thoughts on this will be greatly appreciated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisj2003 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 50 minutes ago, modelling minion said: Now I have to decide which to do! Any preferences guys? I also noticed that the larger weapons pylons on the first linked picture are white which is a nice little difference, and the flaps on the pics with black cowl parts are also white, well at least the STBD one is. Now would this be the same on the other side or a replacement from another aircraft in the earlier US Navy scheme? Any thoughts on this will be greatly appreciated. White cowling + black prop + gray + lots of bombs is my vote. Chris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triet Cam Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Chrisj2003 said: White cowling + black prop + gray + lots of bombs is my vote. Chris Second. White panel cowl with the 514 FS Phoenix head, which was often mistaken for a duck. You have any WW2 bombs on hands? Those early A-1's often spotted with Uncle Sam's WW2 surplus. The MK's has not existed in Nam yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted September 28, 2020 Author Share Posted September 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Chrisj2003 said: White cowling + black prop + gray + lots of bombs is my vote. Chris 12 minutes ago, Triet Cam said: Second. White panel cowl with the 514 FS Phoenix head, which was often mistaken for a duck. You have any WW2 bombs on hands? Those early A-1's often spotted with Uncle Sam's WW2 surplus. The MK's has not existed in Nam yet. Sounds like we have a winner then chaps, white cowl panel it will be. I have plenty of WWII era bombs Triet so arming her won't be an issue, I do fancy hanging a couple of Napalm canisters on her as well though, I'm pretty sure I have seen pics of the early scheme with Napalm being carried. What do you think to the idea of white large pylons and a replacement flap in white too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diases Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 This might Help: Courtesy of ZM US weapon2 set. BLU-10/B seem to be the napalm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted September 29, 2020 Author Share Posted September 29, 2020 Thanks for that @diases. 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Ooo that's the set I'm getting my sticky hands on to shortly!! Napalm always brightens the day! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triet Cam Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 On 9/28/2020 at 1:06 PM, modelling minion said: Any thoughts on this will be greatly appreciated. I would always go by reference. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted September 30, 2020 Author Share Posted September 30, 2020 12 hours ago, Triet Cam said: I would always go by reference. Yes I will stick to loads I have seen on pictures of VNAF Skyraiders from this time period, if not the load seen on the photos above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted September 30, 2020 Author Share Posted September 30, 2020 Just to prove that I haven't been spending all my modelling time looking at pictures of VNAF Spads, although that has taken a fair bit of time, here are some pics of the model as she stands at the moment; As you can hopefully see she has had her ADC grey applied, in fact a couple of coats. The first was given a gentle rub down which has darkened it a bit and then a second coat was applied which shows up as being slightly lighter giving her a faded and been parked in the sun for a bit too long look. the sharp eyed among you might also notice a strip of masking tape along the leading edge of the wings, this is covering some aluminium paint which was sprayed on earlier to represent the corugard which was applied to the leading edges of the wings. Next job will be to get a good gloss coat on her followed by some decals, then I can start the fun part, weathering! Thats it for today so thanks for looking in and as usual all comments and criticisms are gratefully received. Craig. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Oooo I do like the finish a lot!!! It does have a nice gentle unevenness to the finish, which I think is perfect when judging from the photos above. This one is nearing the end, lovely work so far.....as usual! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triet Cam Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Love the random sun bleached look. It's more realistic than the panel line shading. The fade out look is immaculate. Is that Humbrol ACD gray? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted October 1, 2020 Author Share Posted October 1, 2020 9 hours ago, trickyrich said: Oooo I do like the finish a lot!!! It does have a nice gentle unevenness to the finish, which I think is perfect when judging from the photos above. This one is nearing the end, lovely work so far.....as usual! 8 hours ago, Triet Cam said: Love the random sun bleached look. It's more realistic than the panel line shading. The fade out look is immaculate. Is that Humbrol ACD gray? Thanks guys, very much appreciated. The paint I used is Xtracrylix ADC Grey, I only use acrylic paint. It sprays quite nicely and gives a nice smooth finish. There's a fair bit to do yet Rich so don't go expecting her in the gallery too soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wimbledon99 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Wow! That's looks so good. I'd be happy with that paint job as the finished article. Did they do them in grey? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted October 1, 2020 Author Share Posted October 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, wimbledon99 said: Wow! That's looks so good. I'd be happy with that paint job as the finished article. Did they do them in grey? Cheers Nigel, they did indeed do them in grey and that is what she will be, I'm about to start the gloss coats on her. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wimbledon99 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hewy Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Ooh nice paint 👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now