exdraken Posted October 31, 2020 Author Share Posted October 31, 2020 in better light, I toned down the leave green a bit... but maybe I have to brighten ab the olive green? that is the one all sources state to be Revell 361 though ... 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
At Sea Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Love it!! Makes me want to break out an IDS! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 The paintwork looks great and I think with a little more fading and weathering you've have nailed it Werner. On 10/31/2020 at 7:38 PM, At Sea said: Love it!! Makes me want to break out an IDS! No time like the present 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
At Sea Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, Col. said: The paintwork looks great and I think with a little more fading and weathering you've have nailed it Werner. No time like the present No access. My IDS kits are in the loft at home... ...and after returning from sea the loft is not my first port if call! But I’ll see. I have really enjoyed this F.3 and feel I’ve cracked the Revell Kit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christer A Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Totallly the correct decision to tone down the green a bit. It looks much less pea-green now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Moff Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 10/31/2020 at 5:13 PM, exdraken said: in better light, I toned down the leave green a bit... but maybe I have to brighten ab the olive green? that is the one all sources state to be Revell 361 though ... Gotta love a NORM 83 scheme! Great work! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted November 7, 2020 Author Share Posted November 7, 2020 an update is long overdue here... tried to install the Aires nozzles and Revell thrust reverser buckets.... yeah, you guess it... not a stright fit, I needed to remove the outer Revell actuator parts... and dropped the whole thing in the process... some minor damage on the fin I have to report though that needed a rebuild... the sharp eyed one will also notice that I finally mounted the refueling probe.. advice: do that earlier! (see red circle above...) cheers, Werner 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Hopefully an easy fix for you Werner as it's looking great otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andwil Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Shame about the damage, hopefully you can make it good. The three shades of green looks great. AW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christer A Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Isn't the fin tip painted dark grey as well? That could help with the repair... The bad fit with the thrust reversers is noted, thanks for the heads up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted November 9, 2020 Author Share Posted November 9, 2020 9 hours ago, Christer A said: Isn't the fin tip painted dark grey as well? That could help with the repair... yeah, that will definitely help! plastic surgery, and the opposite of a nose job, no? it is pointy again! I do hope it does not need any further durability testing! some updates on the wing stores: and the mediocre fitting thrust reverser buckets... especially from behind... maybe I will take them off again.... 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ-WobblyHands Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Nice recovery on the fin, my biggest fear now is dropping it when applying decals or the last little bits to finish off the model ! Those exhausts do look really good 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin W Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Great recovery on the fin. Not the easiest of repairs but done well. Great job on the camo. Colin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andwil Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Nice save on the fin. Stores look good too. AW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Good recovery on the fin, and nice work on the engine area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted November 21, 2020 Author Share Posted November 21, 2020 some decalling done yesterday did not foresee it that complicated to source adequate Norm83 decals.... so no I have a mix, (they also mixed them on the real jets .... and there are still green ones around, at least until very recently.. so prove me wrong 😜) so it is kit decals (Revell could really have provided declas for at least one service machine... ) + Italeri decals (Cartograf printed as well ) observe the diffenent appearance on the camo in the setup.... cheers, Werner 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christer A Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Yeah, sourcing decals is the largest problem for the Norm-83 Scheme... Yours look great though! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin W Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Decal sourcing can be a real issue unless you can print your own. Looking good so far. Colin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Looking good with some of the decals applied. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
At Sea Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 HaHen decals cover most German Tornados,.. https://www.hahen.com/epages/64625185.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/64625185/Products/48047 Now I know these are for the grey schemes but I can't see the difference in the Norm 83 squadron shields or codes. The fin shield for JaBoG 32 is silver on my set at home, their MarineFleiger schemes are nice too and you can get the walkways. The biggest downside is the carrier film is not pre cut, so you have to do that which is a pain for stencils and the carrier film was thick on one set I had. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted November 28, 2020 Author Share Posted November 28, 2020 2 hours ago, At Sea said: HaHen decals cover most German Tornados,.. https://www.hahen.com/epages/64625185.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/64625185/Products/48047 Now I know these are for the grey schemes but I can't see the difference in the Norm 83 squadron shields or codes. The fin shield for JaBoG 32 is silver on my set at home, their MarineFleiger schemes are nice too and you can get the walkways. thanks, for sure yxou can cobble something together with the new Norm76 scheme decals as well https://www.hahen.com/epages/64625185.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/64625185/Products/48067 but what exactly ? quite a lot of research necessary, not really helped by the fact that the green scheme is in use for many may years and stencils, suadron shields etc changed a lot. in earlier times they were rather colorful, now they are grey.... a photo I took 20 years ago: I think the time is ripe for a dedicated Norm 83 sheet, at best over time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
At Sea Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 30 minutes ago, exdraken said: thanks, for sure yxou can cobble something together with the new Norm76 scheme decals as well https://www.hahen.com/epages/64625185.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/64625185/Products/48067 but what exactly ? quite a lot of research necessary, not really helped by the fact that the green scheme is in use for many may years and stencils, suadron shields etc changed a lot. in earlier times they were rather colorful, now they are grey.... a photo I took 20 years ago: I think the time is ripe for a dedicated Norm 83 sheet, at best over time! I 100% agree! I love that picture, and for me Norm '83 is exactly what comes to mind when I think Tornado. I think the biggest pity with Revell's 1/48 kit is that they did not offer the decal options from the original Tornado IDS/GR.1 boxing, 3 really good and colourful options which I plan to build using aftermarket. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted November 28, 2020 Author Share Posted November 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, At Sea said: I think the biggest pity with Revell's 1/48 kit is that they did not offer the decal options from the original Tornado IDS/GR.1 boxing, 3 really good and colourful options which I plan to build using aftermarket. yeah, that would have been great! there hav been 7? Luftwaffe Tornado Suqadron... so some variete to be expected! from Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Panavia_Tornado_operators Germany Luftwaffe - Germany's air force obtained a total of 245 Tornado aircraft, with 210 of them as the IDS version, and 35 ECR.[8] Jagdbombergeschwader 31 "Boelcke" at Nörvenich flying IDS. Converted to Eurofighter Typhoon in 2009.[9] Jagdbombergeschwader 32 at Lagerlechfeld flying ECR (34 aircraft). Disbanded in March 2013, operated between August 1985 – March 2013. Taktisches Luftwaffengeschwader 33 at Büchel flying IDS. Active, 46 aircraft.[10] Jagdbombergeschwader 34 "Allgäu" at Memmingen. Disbanded in 2003. Jagdbombergeschwader 38 "Friesland" at Jever. Disbanded, German Tactical Conversion unit, August 1983 – September 2005.[11][12] Taktisches Luftwaffengeschwader 51 "Immelmann" at Jagel/Schleswig, flying ECR. Active, 25 aircraft.[13] Fliegerisches Ausbildungszentrum der Luftwaffe at Holloman Air Force Base, NM, USA, flying IDS. Operational Conversion Unit, active, flying 14 aircraft.[14] Marineflieger - The German Naval Air Arm obtained 112 IDS aircraft for the anti-shipping mission.[8] Marinefliegergeschwader 1 at Jagel, flying IDS. Disbanded, operated between 2 July 1982 – 1 January 1994.[15] Marinefliegergeschwader 2 at Eggebek, flying IDS. Disbanded, operated between 1986 and 2005. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
At Sea Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Were JaBog32 always ECR? Was the ECR around in 1985 or were they IDS then converted to the ECR when it came out? I only ask as I wish to model the aircraft on that old Revell Box Top (44+43) and that is JaBog32, but that picture is very early as it has Norm 76 pylons and tanks still. So IDS yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted November 28, 2020 Author Share Posted November 28, 2020 9 minutes ago, At Sea said: Were JaBog32 always ECR? Was the ECR around in 1985 or were they IDS then converted to the ECR when it came out? I only ask as I wish to model the aircraft on that old Revell Box Top (44+43) and that is JaBog32, but that picture is very early as it has Norm 76 pylons and tanks still. So IDS yes? I am all but a specialist on the Tornado, let a lone the German one! I guess with googel translate you will figure out details, but no, it had IDS in the beginning: https://jabog32.de/yaja/chronik.html in 1984 they turned Tornado: https://jabog32.de/yaja/images/erster-tornado-beim-jabog32-oberst-morgenstern.jpg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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