Plumbum Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Here is the start of my old mold Airfix Lancaster. It was in a dusty box with a factory sealed bag. Upon opening I was amazed and how good it had held up, but the fuselage halves were a bit warped. Away we go.---John 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 I need a little history on Admiral Prune. There were 2 Lancasters by this name? I am guessing Admiral Prune and Admiral Prune II ? The first Lancaster was W4118 code ZNL and the second was ED593 code ZNY ? Both piloted at times by Guy Gibson? The "original" was a B.I and the second was a B.III ? I found decals for ZNY. Are there decals for ZNL as well? Thanks---John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Gordon Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 There's this IWM photo of Admiral Prune II where the serial number can be seen but the individual aircraft letter is not quite visible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brigbeale Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 (edited) I did a little search and found this on lancaster-archive.com It appears W4118 Admiral Prune was ZN-Y and ED593 Admiral Prune II was ZN-T (other sources state they were ZN-L and ZN-Y respectively) ZN-L apparently was also another Lancaster ME668. W4118 was apparently lost while Gibson was on leave. He apparently claimed ED593 as a replacement and had it painted with the same identity. Just to confuse things a bit, weaponsandwarfare.com show both W4118(Lancaster I) and ED593(Lancaster III) wearing ZN-Y. Edited September 7, 2020 by Brigbeale 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brigbeale Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 There’s also another thread on Britmodeller titled gibsons lancaster admiral prune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaminCam Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 I built one of these late 70s airfix lancs last year and it's actually a lovely kit - didn't need much filler and "looks" right to me. Fuselage on mine is indeed slightly twisted but only if you look hard. I also tried to use the original decals but they silvered quite badly and if i was doing it again I'd chuck them and start with a modern set. Looking forward to seeing yours come together, good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mancunian airman Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Still my favourite Lancaster kit, I have built plenty of these . . . In post #3 you can see the bottom of the individual aircraft letter, clearly not the letter 'L' so I think you are right with the 'T'. Alway look forward to see a Lancaster built Good luck Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billn53 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 So many people have said so many good things about this kit, that I bought one for myself instead of the newer offering. I’ll be most interested to follow your progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Thanks for the replies. My concern is are the SKY decals correct? I had always thought pilots were superstitious, not naming a second aircraft with the name one had or had had. So should ED593 say Admiral Prune II ? The codes L,T, Y have me totally baffled! Thanks again---John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Definitely NOT Gibson and his dog! LOL---John 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mancunian airman Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 4 hours ago, billn53 said: So many people have said so many good things about this kit, that I bought one for myself instead of the newer offering. I’ll be most interested to follow your progress. The only issue I have with the older 08002/3/4/5 kit is the low windscreen at the front. I overcome this by taking off the bottom frame moulding to give it a bit more depth . . . . it works for me Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billn53 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 I found this guide online, it may be of help. http://www.hyperscale.com/lancaster_guide.pdf - Bill 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Thanks. I have the fuselage together. I had to add the upper turret but was able to modify the front and rear turrets to add later. The cockpit decals were old but I used them, they started to peel off so I used the old "Academy" trick and added some Elmer's white glued around and under them. Seems to work. I got the twist out of the fuselage with a lot of glue then tape going from tail to cockpit.---John 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Out of curiosity has Airfix ever hinted at a new mold Grand Slam?---John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruskin Air Services Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Great kit, still got two more in the stash and this one : 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 BEAUTIFUL JOB! what color are bombs? I am going with bronze green(Euro 1 Green) for bombs and cookie. I still think it looks as good as or better than the new mold. The new one is nice but for me it is too over engineered. But if they do a new mold Grand Slam I'll try it again.......never finished my 1st new mold attempt.---John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbody Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 16 hours ago, Alex Gordon said: There's this IWM photo of Admiral Prune II where the serial number can be seen but the individual aircraft letter is not quite visible. This: There's also this: Chris 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bell209 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 18 hours ago, SaminCam said: I built one of these late 70s airfix lancs last year and it's actually a lovely kit - didn't need much filler and "looks" right to me. I used one for my Lincoln conversion and found it quite an easy build, too. The riveting is heavy-handed but I sanded most of that off anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Swindell Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 14 hours ago, dogsbody said: This: There's also this: Chris Looks like the same photoshoot, probably only a few minutes apart. definitely the same aircraft in the same place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 I have some more work, the outer engine nacelles are glued up and sanded, inner engine nacelles glued and weapons glued. I went to cut landing gear from the sprue and one broke. Exactly what happened on my last 8000 series Lanc earlier this year and in the same spot. So I glued it up but have my doubts about it holding weight. Are there any replacements out there? I know there is a metal set for the new mold Lanc but I don't know how it works as the new kit was re engineered.---John 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Winging it. I started the wings. If my memory is right the wings fit good so I should be able to mask them and paint them separate of the fuselage. That will save on time and masking. The only thing to watch out for is not to sand off the cable cutters on the leading edge.---John 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody37 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 On 9/7/2020 at 3:27 PM, Johnv said: Thanks for the replies. My concern is are the SKY decals correct? I had always thought pilots were superstitious, not naming a second aircraft with the name one had or had had. So should ED593 say Admiral Prune II ? The codes L,T, Y have me totally baffled! Thanks again---John Codes were changed from time to time on squadrons I think so it could be that no one is wrong, particularly if its been around for a while. If there is a photo of one with a particular code however, you can't go wrong. Nice progress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruskin Air Services Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 23 hours ago, Johnv said: Winging it. I started the wings. If my memory is right the wings fit good so I should be able to mask them and paint them separate of the fuselage. That will save on time and masking. The only thing to watch out for is not to sand off the cable cutters on the leading edge.---John Oh yes the fit of the wings is good painted them the fuselage and the tail planes separately 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr T Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 The second issue Lanc is a nice kit. One formed the basis of a Lincoln conversion I did a few years back and the Mach2 York looks as if the kit was used as a basis as I was able to subsitute some parts from the Airfix kit for parts in the Mach2 kit that were not worth the effort of refining and they fitted with no real issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbadge Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Got one of the older kits in the stash and a new one, was going to flog the old one but think I will keep hold of it. Great work so far Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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