theplasticsurgeon Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 A comparison build, simultaneous with an equivalent Airfix. This kit bought at RIAT 2019 for the bargain price of £7. A kit which I built in 2016. For this project I'll be using the leftover Airfix decals - undecided which way round. And my reference book, so I know EVERYTHING about Tornados. And bemoaning that there is no kit of this Tornado. Tim for a brew. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin W Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 Great to have you along. Many of the 1/72 builders will be interested in your comparison for the 2 kits. The steam Tornado would be a great build. I'd not be surprised if some other part of Hornby makes one. Colin W 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theplasticsurgeon Posted September 5, 2020 Author Share Posted September 5, 2020 A quick look at the parts, as I unsealed the box first thing this morning. And the first thing I noticed is this Italeri canopy - with the incorrect frame. So much for the sealed box! The rest does look OK though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FortyEighter Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 On 8/28/2020 at 9:22 PM, theplasticsurgeon said: And bemoaning that there is no kit of this Tornado. There is https://www.djhmodelloco.co.uk/ but it's quite expensive! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theplasticsurgeon Posted September 7, 2020 Author Share Posted September 7, 2020 A bit of cockpit paint and decal prep. AND I've removed that erroneous canopy frame being dryfitted onto the upper fuselage. Most likely going for the 65 Sqdn/OCU option for this build - possibly with Airfix decals. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin W Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Interesing issue this canopy. Unusual to start with the instrument panels while still on the sprue. You must be confident of the fit!! Colin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theplasticsurgeon Posted September 8, 2020 Author Share Posted September 8, 2020 Today I airbrushed Humbrol 166 the undersides. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theplasticsurgeon Posted September 10, 2020 Author Share Posted September 10, 2020 Cockpit coming together Then, oh dear, I've just discovered that 167 Barley Grey is not longer in Humbrol's enamel range - so I bought it in acrylic. Does acrylic paint airbrush? I finished up brush painting the wing upper surfaces. What could I be doing wrong? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helios16v Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Front cockpit bulkhead doesn't look like it's fully seated on the bottom of the fuselage. When you're pressing the nose together, does it feel like the upper is making contact around that bulkhead? Might need a little sanding/shaving for clearance. I can't speak to Humbrol's acrylics, but the Tamiya acrylics spray a treat once you've got them thinned down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliffB Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 8 hours ago, theplasticsurgeon said: Does acrylic paint airbrush? Yes Tim, Humbrol acrylic paint will spray OK. Have a practice first though . Cheers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 2 hours ago, helios16v said: Front cockpit bulkhead doesn't look like it's fully seated on the bottom of the fuselage. Agreed and it also does not look to be fully on the cockpit flooring. I think that I can see the ridge on the bottom of the fuselage just about which that bulkhead is meant to be behind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theplasticsurgeon Posted September 11, 2020 Author Share Posted September 11, 2020 2 hours ago, helios16v said: Front cockpit bulkhead doesn't look like it's fully seated on the bottom of the fuselage. When you're pressing the nose together, does it feel like the upper is making contact around that bulkhead? Might need a little sanding/shaving for clearance. That photo is actually still dryfitted, but I am forewarned to be cautious when assembling the forward fuselage. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theplasticsurgeon Posted September 12, 2020 Author Share Posted September 12, 2020 Thanks everybody for the concerns about the cockpit fit. Fuselage halves are now locked together - beuatifully. Wings and tailerons are still mobile. This is the current look, after a night of clamps and selotape. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andwil Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 With the wings moveable, how are you going to address the pylons? AW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anatol Pigwa Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 44 minutes ago, Andwil said: With the wings moveable, how are you going to address the pylons? AW The Revell kit has actally a contraption to keeo the pylons movable, if you place them into the wings before the lower and upper half together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theplasticsurgeon Posted September 13, 2020 Author Share Posted September 13, 2020 The inner pylons. On my previous build I left them off until later. Then heat-smashed the pin for a more interference fit. Now the pylons are moveable, and removeable in avoidance of damage. I'm not fitting outer pylons to either model, they're very rare in service. Out of hundreds of F3 photos, I found just 2 with them fitted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 Good work Tim! What is the technique for heat smashing pins for these, my Italeri has this coming up...heated screw driver, not sure what I’m doing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theplasticsurgeon Posted September 13, 2020 Author Share Posted September 13, 2020 3 hours ago, Valkyrie said: Good work Tim! What is the technique for heat smashing pins for these, my Italeri has this coming up...heated screw driver, not sure what I’m doing Actually, if I'm on the cusp of ruining two models for the price of one, we'll do this another way. Put a drop of Klear into the pylon hole, just before fitting the pylon. This will bind but not adhere the plastics. Giving enough flexibility for the pylons to move, until you take them off to store the model. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 Thanks Tim! That’s quite clever...I’m sure il botch it somehow. Keep going with yours 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 9 hours ago, theplasticsurgeon said: The inner pylons. On my previous build I left them off until later. Then heat-smashed the pin for a more interference fit. Now the pylons are moveable, and removeable in avoidance of damage. I'm not fitting outer pylons to either model, they're very rare in service. Out of hundreds of F3 photos, I found just 2 with them fitted. Tornado F3s mainly operated with the inner pylons only. They did use all 4 during Op Telic and I think a bit after that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
128fiddler Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 Was it to carry a missile or something like the Terma self defence pod? But then again, I guess only from Ops Shader on, they were active using Terma pods wasn't it? Curious then to what extent these pylons were used. Please enlighten us @Jabba! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andwil Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 According to the Warpaint volume on the Tornado ADV, the fitting of the outer pylons affected the handling of the aircraft such that it was referred to by the aircrew as the “pig fit” AW 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theplasticsurgeon Posted September 17, 2020 Author Share Posted September 17, 2020 What I'd really like to do is complete this model with the black tail option decals. The difficult with that, is that the decal would need to go over the ILS aerials - therein the difficulty. So for that reason, I removed the ILS, and conducted a side-by-side comparison. I'm now happy that I can complete this model with the black tail. Fin fitted. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Good to see this one building up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theplasticsurgeon Posted September 19, 2020 Author Share Posted September 19, 2020 On 9/11/2020 at 6:33 AM, CliffB said: Yes Tim, Humbrol acrylic paint will spray OK. Have a practice first though . Cheers THanks for that reassurance. What should it be thinned with? I'd guess to a semi-skimmed milk viscosity. is there anything else that I need to know about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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