fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted August 24, 2020 Author Share Posted August 24, 2020 I took these at the Smithsonian. Notice how different this is from the previously posted one (smooth belly, to start with): (Photos are for everyone's benefit, If you re-post or share, please add the link to my blog, where they were posted originally, as I took these images myself: https://wingsofintent.blogspot.com/ Do not sand the seam in the wingtip area, as there was a very visible flange there: Notice the wheel brake linkage rod, much more similar to the kit part than the other plane at the SDASM: 13 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnl42 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Moa said: My dear friend, extraordinary musician, composer, and bandoneón player Ricardo Fiorio, sent me this link to a youtube clip (IN SPANISH) that shows the SACO trimotor as it leaves Bogotá. The accident happened later in Medellín: Interesting film, thanks for sharing. What is the ground member "cranking" at 1:36? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted August 25, 2020 Author Share Posted August 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, dnl42 said: What is the ground member "cranking" at 1:36? The mail hold inside the wing, it hinged up or down via crank 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorfinn Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Lovely to see another Trimotor being given the royal treatment! Thanks also for sharing those wonderful photos. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Ranger Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Great photos. Thanks for sharing. I think I understand better now how you are creating the rolled corrugated leading edge. It was the transverse cutting of the foil that worried me. But a benadryl and a nap helped immensely. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme H Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Oh goody, an aircraft I have long wanted to model, but like you I worked out way back in the '70's that no two of them were the same, I doubt I will get the time soon to start one, and I actually don't think I have one in stock, having sold it off about 10 years ago, but will follow with much interest. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnl42 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 50 minutes ago, Space Ranger said: But a benadryl and a nap helped immensely. A single malt might have been even more helpful! Just sayin... 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted August 25, 2020 Author Share Posted August 25, 2020 3 hours ago, Space Ranger said: Pardon my lack of comprehension, but I am having an allergy/sinusitis flare and my brain is not working quite right. Hope you are feeling better. Don't worry, election day is near. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbody Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Ooh! Another great Moa build. My chair is pulled up to watch. I do wonder just how many miniature toilets I've seen in the last few years. I know it's more than I ever would have thought just a few years past. Chris 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted August 25, 2020 Author Share Posted August 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, dogsbody said: I do wonder just how many miniature toilets I've seen in the last few years. I know it's more than I ever would have thought just a few years past. Chris Yeah, @Martian is already calling it: "-Weight for weight, the most important contribution to the hobby" 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bell209 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 I love that the toilet plumbing exits directly out of the bottom of the fuselage! I wonder who controlled when you could use the loo? 🤣 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted August 25, 2020 Author Share Posted August 25, 2020 49 minutes ago, Bell209 said: I love that the toilet plumbing exits directly out of the bottom of the fuselage! I wonder who controlled when you could use the loo? 🤣 Your bladder or intestines, I guess? 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew.S Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Nice job so far indeed, Master toiletmaker! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray S Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 What a wonderful subject Moa! I am looking forward to seeing how you deal with this model, after my attempt completed earlier this month. All the best, Ray 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billn53 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 13 hours ago, Moa said: The control arms have been removed, their pivoting points drilled for later: I can’t exactly tell from this photo, but if you used Airfix’s locations for drilling the control arm pivoting points, you may have a problem later on when rigging the control cables. At least, that was my experience. Checking photos, I concluded the double-armed one was too high and had to be moved down a few corrugations. You’ve really got my attention with this build, I’ll be looking over your shoulder at every step! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 (edited) @Moa Claudio, Because I am a curious old coot, on the photos you posted of the landing gear, is that bellcrank and rod associated with the brakes? Doesn't look like it serves as a levered suspension/oleo, but I could be (and usually am!) wrong! Following this build to learn, and because I have an Airfix kit, but haven't decided if it's going to be a civil or USN/USMC example, just to be different! Mike Edited August 25, 2020 by 72modeler removed offensive photo 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted August 25, 2020 Author Share Posted August 25, 2020 3 hours ago, 72modeler said: Because I am a curious old coot, on the photos you posted of the landing gear, is that bellcrank and rod associated with the brakes? See below quoted what I have posted just above of what you posted, with the second walkaround in the Smithsonian: 16 hours ago, Moa said: Notice the wheel brake linkage rod, much more similar to the kit part than the other plane at the SDASM: I think you have gotten the same illness that Space Ranger (Michael) caught. And, besides, why "some" don't get the memo that I don't appreciate military planes posted on my thread? Et tu, Brute! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Moa said: And, besides, why nobody gets the memo that I don't appreciate military planes posted on my thread? Sorry- I certainly didn't realize that military aircraft were so offensive to you; I gave thought to your views on the subject, but since the NAM's 4-AT was a transport and was unarmed, and others might be interested in those colors and markings, I posted it. From now on, I will refrain from including any military-related content from comments made on your submissions. I will remove the offensive photo. Mike I guess I missed your description as to the function of that rod and bellcrank- sorry the redundant query seems to have caused you so much consternation. Nobody's perfect. Mike Edited August 25, 2020 by 72modeler added text 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted August 25, 2020 Author Share Posted August 25, 2020 5 hours ago, billn53 said: I can’t exactly tell from this photo, but if you used Airfix’s locations for drilling the control arm pivoting points, you may have a problem later on when rigging the control cables. At least, that was my experience. Checking photos, I concluded the double-armed one was too high and had to be moved down a few corrugations. You’ve really got my attention with this build, I’ll be looking over your shoulder at every step! You are right, Bill, two corrugations down would place it more precisely. I can't see any way it could interfere with the control cables layout at all, though. I used the same location because no matter how well you do removing the arms, there is a slight "shadow" left, not noticeable if you locate the new arms just on top of it. Moving the arm down would have made those faint remains of the altered plastic more evident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengalensis Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Lovely choice of subject, it will will be great to see your magics applied to this ancient classic kit, actually one of the few Airfix kits i never built myself as a kid. It was a sad ending for the plane and Mr. Carlos Gardel with friends and crew in that accident, but your model will be a nice tribute. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted August 25, 2020 Author Share Posted August 25, 2020 1 hour ago, 72modeler said: I guess I missed your description as to the function of that rod and bellcrank- sorry the redundant query seems to have caused you so much consternation. Nobody's perfect. Mike No consternation at all. I only grabbed and ax and demolished the living room, and went to the roof and screamed non-stop for twenty minutes. The living room needed re-decoration anyway. I also have at hand a number if iron bars that I turn into pretzels when I have to reply to comments, to release tension, you know. I am a monk, after all. Ommmmmm 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billn53 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Moa said: I used the same location because no matter how well you do removing the arms, there is a slight "shadow" left, not noticeable if you locate the new arms just on top of it. Moving the arm down would have made those faint remains of the altered plastic more evident. I did, and they are. 😪 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted August 25, 2020 Author Share Posted August 25, 2020 As mentioned somewhere at the beginning, the mail holds in the wings seemed to be of two types, single and double bay. Some trimotors didn't have them at all. The one I intend to represent had a single bay mail hold, so the kit has to be modified accordingly. I think I will shut close one of them, resurface the area to match photos (the kit is also missing a very prominent bar/lock), and then rework the other one and depict it in the open position, redoing the frames/wire netting which are ignored in the kit. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted August 25, 2020 Author Share Posted August 25, 2020 10 hours ago, Ray S said: What a wonderful subject Moa! I am looking forward to seeing how you deal with this model, after my attempt completed earlier this month. All the best, Ray Ray, I had missed it, I just visited your thread. Excellent job! these trimotors are indeed something. Almost legendary. Well done job, sir! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray S Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Moa said: Ray, I had missed it, I just visited your thread. Excellent job! these trimotors are indeed something. Almost legendary. Well done job, sir! Thanks for that comment, it means the world to me! All the best, Ray 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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