Ray S Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 9 hours ago, Moa said: The moirée effect in the model is the product of the interaction of the corrugations and the given definition of the image file. And there I was thinking they were interference patterns like what I was tort at skool! All the best, Ray the ever-learning 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 11 hours ago, Moa said: I will never do that to you (or any Martian) 😄 It could get very messy, remember I'm from a planet whose denizens are not noted for their pacifist tendencies. 10 hours ago, billn53 said: That’s right. “Hope for the best, prepare for the worst” Blurglecruncheons at the ready! Martian 👽 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 15 hours ago, bigbadbadge said: More importantly did the toilets survive the tests, could have been messy !!! A thought just occurred to me- are the toilets flush-riveted? (I know- I know...) Mike 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Swindell Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 58 minutes ago, 72modeler said: A thought just occurred to me- are the toilets flush-riveted? (I know- I know...) Mike Nah, definitely panhead on the top.... 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 You’d have to be very careful with any faying surfaces... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 2 hours ago, 72modeler said: A thought just occurred to me- are the toilets flush-riveted? (I know- I know...) Mike Now that does gain you some remission of sentence in the Naughty Corner. Martian 👽 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 Clear coat on. Instead of the proverbial acrylic floor polish, this time I used, for the first time. Alclad II Aqua Gloss Clear. It atomized much, much finer than the floor polish. Once the coverage was completed, the metal paint shine was subdued a bit, which is normal and I like, but after a few hours it picked up big time, and the metal coat was very shinny again indeed. So I conclude that this product has a longer drying time, and renders a coat much clearer coat than the usual household floor polish. Masks have been now lifted: 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray S Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Hello Moa, those leading-edge corrugations really show very nicely indeed - they were very much worth correcting. Excellent work. Ray 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billn53 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 What Ray said ☝️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 That is gorgeous Claudio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbadge Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 oooooooo I like that , as said above the wing leading edge corrugations really do look great. Chris 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyJammedKenny! Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 10 hours ago, Moa said: Alclad II Aqua Gloss Clear Is this a water-based gloss or does it have a high lacquer content? Can you clean it with water? Probably others have answered elsewhere, but this piques my interest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billn53 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 10 minutes ago, TheyJammedKenny! said: Is this a water-based gloss or does it have a high lacquer content? Can you clean it with water? Probably others have answered elsewhere, but this piques my interest. It cleans up with water or IPA. More info here: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 hour ago, TheyJammedKenny! said: Is this a water-based gloss or does it have a high lacquer content? Can you clean it with water? Probably others have answered elsewhere, but this piques my interest. Hi Yes, it cleans with water (as per their own instructions). Bill also posted above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 9 hours ago, Ray S said: Hello Moa, those leading-edge corrugations really show very nicely indeed - they were very much worth correcting. Excellent work. Ray 6 hours ago, billn53 said: What Ray said ☝️ 6 hours ago, RidgeRunner said: That is gorgeous Claudio 5 hours ago, bigbadbadge said: oooooooo I like that , as said above the wing leading edge corrugations really do look great. Chris Thanks everybody. The fix seems to be fairly effective. Still I am sure this can be improved. As I mentioned before, because I did the foil first than any other work on the wing, it suffered a few small nicks and little bumps that could have been avoided. But the basics are there for other modelers to apply if they feel like trying. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Ranger Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 10 hours ago, Ray S said: Hello Moa, those leading-edge corrugations really show very nicely indeed - they were very much worth correcting. Excellent work. Ray Yes, they do. And the model is so shiny that the reflections off the corrugations activated the sensors aboard the OrbitJet. There were so many sensor returns on our monitors that for a moment I thought Moa had launched a missile attack on the Martian! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billn53 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Just now, Space Ranger said: Yes, they do. And the model is so shiny that the reflections off the corrugations activated the sensors aboard the OrbitJet. There were so many sensor returns on our monitors that for a moment I thought Moa had launched a missile attack on the Martian! No bang bang, please. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Ranger Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, billn53 said: No bang bang, please. When I realized that the sensor returns were coming from Moa's location, I instantly knew that they could not be offensive in nature and stood down from alert. I have reprimanded my sensor crew and scheduled additional training for them. Sorry, Moa! Crisis averted. Edited September 22, 2020 by Space Ranger 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 3 hours ago, Space Ranger said: And the model is so shiny It is. But not from every angle. As I commented above, after applying the floor polish clear coat, the shiny goes a bit down, which is pleasant. But this Alclad Aqua clear coat is a dedicated product, so it actually enhanced the shine, it's shinier now that after applying the "metal" paint. I have to mull a bit over this, either re-mask everything and plug the door again and respray with a semi-gloss, or just leave as it is and look at it back in ten years. By then the shine surely will be less evident. Artificial light: Natural light: I think I will leave it as it is. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbadge Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Looks lovely to me. The dings in the wing leading edge could be bird strikes!!! Just thinking about it you could have got away with saying that and we would have all believed you!!! Chris 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) If you’re feeling brave you could try rubbing it with some graphite ( used as dry lubricant for locks) it will dirty it up a bit but also impart a more satin sheen. Back when I used to specialise in aircraft from a certain antagonistic Western European airforce; which will remain unnamed; this was actually the best method to get the correct finish. Edited September 22, 2020 by Marklo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 Just now, Marklo said: If you’re feeling brave you could try rubbing it with some graphite ( used as dry lubricant for locks) it will dirty it up a bit but also impart a more satin sheen. Back when I used to specialise in aircraft from a certain antagonistic Western European airforce which will remain unnamed this was actually the best method to get the correct finish. Me thinks not! But appreciate the comment and the good intention. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billn53 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Marklo said: If you’re feeling brave you could try rubbing it with some graphite ( used as dry lubricant for locks) it will dirty it up a bit but also impart a more satin sheen. Back when I used to specialise in aircraft from a certain antagonistic Western European airforce; which will remain unnamed; this was actually the best method to get the correct finish. Interesting you should suggest this. For my tri-motor, I weathered the corrugations using a variety of powdered metallic pigments. Worked like a charm, but I needed a clear coat to fix the pigments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billn53 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, Marklo said: If you’re feeling brave you could try rubbing it with some graphite ( used as dry lubricant for locks) it will dirty it up a bit but also impart a more satin sheen. Back when I used to specialise in aircraft from a certain antagonistic Western European airforce; which will remain unnamed; this was actually the best method to get the correct finish. Interesting you should suggest this. For my tri-motor, I weathered the corrugations using a variety of powdered metallic pigments. Worked like a charm, but I needed a clear coat to fix the pigments. (Why this posted twice, I do not know) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) The graphite tends to stick ( which is exactly what graphite shouldnt do, maybe that’s form an even layer of graphene )so provided the model isn’t handled excessively a clear coat isn’t entirely necessary. Edited September 22, 2020 by Marklo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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