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On 8/26/2020 at 5:03 PM, Robertone139 said:

45€?

I can buy three Hobby bosses for that

If they included the nose cannons, cockpit detail, and proper options for the LERX then I'd at least consider it, but based on the sprue shots I'd be hesitant to buy it at 50% of that MSRP. 

 

And if it's the number of parts driving up the cost of this kit, how about getting rid of the garbage ordnance? GBU-10s aren't a realistic option for any F-5, and whatever Mk.80 series the "dumb" and "snakeye" bombs are supposed to represent, they failed pretty miserably.

 

3 hours ago, ivand said:

Airfix did one.

Not especially well. Raised panel lines, mediocre detail, and abysmal fit (even by the standards of the era when it was released).  I do have two in the stash, but that's mainly because they were cheaper (and on the market before) any aftermarket conversion I'm aware of.  Dreammodel still need to get their MSRP down a lot before I'll jump at even the Tigereye, though.

4 hours ago, Trenton guy said:

Their recent AH-1Z was pretty expensive also but a nice kit. Did Aggressor F-5’s carry cannon?

From the sprue shots I was very interested in the Zulu Cobra, but when it hit my LHS with a $50 USD price tag I decided that price point is a bridge too far for me.

 

I believe the USAF Aggressors and USN/USMC Adversary F-5s all retained their internal guns (the two-seaters only ever had a single cannon, with a pitot in the other position giving the illusion of a matched set).

 

Aggressor F-5E with cannon

 

 

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4 hours ago, CT7567 said:

If they included the nose cannons, cockpit detail, and proper options for the LERX then I'd at least consider it, but based on the sprue shots I'd be hesitant to buy it at 50% of that MSRP. 

 

And if it's the number of parts driving up the cost of this kit, how about getting rid of the garbage ordnance? GBU-10s aren't a realistic option for any F-5, and whatever Mk.80 series the "dumb" and "snakeye" bombs are supposed to represent, they failed pretty miserably.

Now I've seen the sprue shots I'm quite disappointed especially at the rumoured price!

 

I agree, they've failed to include some important basic details and given us a whole load or unnecessary ordnance, by all means give us the type specific tanks but give us the proper LERX options, the canopy actuating mechanism and even the cannon (something which is easily replicated with a bit of tube), instead of all of those bombs!

 

4 hours ago, CT7567 said:

(the two-seaters only ever had a single cannon, with a pitot in the other position giving the illusion of a matched set).

I think it was used as an air intake, not a pitot, but you're right, one of them was a dummy.

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Looking at the fuselage parts, there will be a F-5F two seater as well as a RF-5E Tigereye  in the future.

Unfortunately, it seems that the very visible canopy opening mechanism is not included. An option would be to use the parts from the Airfix F-5E or Hasegawa F-20 kits, or wait a for aftermarket parts that will surely appear very shortly. 

Also, you can use the ESCI/Italeri RF-5A recce nose to make an early Saudi RF-5E used before the "Tigereye" version was delivered. 

 

Re. GBU-10 - The Iranian IIAF F-5Fs were designed from the beginning to replace their aged F-4Ds as GBU bombing platform and several of them should have been equipped with the "Zotz box"to use the laser guided bombs after successful tests in the US. Unfortunately, the January 1979 revolution put an end to these plans and the IRIAF F-5Fs were used as fast FACs and classic (very) low level bombers together with the IRIAF F-5E fleet.

 

BTW: Here some colorful marking options for Iranian F-5E/Fs from Hi-Decal:

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Greetings

Diego

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2 hours ago, Diego said:

An option would be to use the parts from the ESCI/Italeri F-5A kit or wait a for aftermarket parts that will surely appear very shortly.

Diego, I don't recall the ESCI kit having any such parts, I've been waiting for the aftermarket to provide these ever since the ESCI kit was first released, having said that, it's a mighty long tome since I looked at one so I could be wrong.

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33 minutes ago, Wez said:

Diego, I don't recall the ESCI kit having any such parts, 

I just checked my stash, and I'm happy to inform that the Esci kits and and least some if not all subsequent reissues of F-5A versions do have RF-5 nose parts. Maybe I'm very lucky to have bought exactly the right reissues though.

 

Jay

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3 minutes ago, Mountain goat said:

I just checked my stash, and I'm happy to inform that the Esci kits and and least some if not all subsequent reissues of F-5A versions do have RF-5 nose parts. Maybe I'm very lucky to have bought exactly the right reissues though.

 

Jay

No Jay,

 

Diego was talking about the canopy actuation mechanism in that part of his post, I don't believe the ESCI kit or any of its re-releases has these?

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1 hour ago, Wez said:

Diego, I don't recall the ESCI kit having any such parts, I've been waiting for the aftermarket to provide these ever since the ESCI kit was first released, having said that, it's a mighty long tome since I looked at one so I could be wrong.

I am getting old...now that you tell it, I am not sure if it was the ESCI/F-5A or the Airfix F-5E that had the canopy actuators... it was more probably Airfix...and also Hasegawa in the F-20... anyway, some resin aftermarket would be more than welcome.

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38 minutes ago, Diego said:

I am getting old...now that you tell it, I am not sure if it was the ESCI/F-5A or the Airfix F-5E that had the canopy actuators... it was more probably Airfix...and also Hasegawa in the F-20... anyway, some resin aftermarket would be more than welcome.

Couldn't agree more!

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It was the ESCI kit that had an attempt at canopy actuators (just checked mine in the stash). They were in both the F-5A and F-5B kits. Little arms that attached to the top of the ejection seat rails. I believe that is prototypical for the single seater and the rear canopy of the two seater but not the front canopy of the two seater. My reference point is the 1/48 Freedom Models two seater (bought it solely for reference) confirmed by not always easy to discern photos. They are missing the considerable bulk of stuff behind the seat but it was an attempt. IMHO the best, should I say only, good representation of these components was found in the Sword T-38 kit’s resin components. The kits are virtually unobtainable now but I laid in a few years ago for use with the ESCI kits. A really nice resin cockpit and color PE panels were part of the package. Recently completed a Sword T-38A. The mechanisms were more than a bit fidly but came out very nice.

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On 9/2/2020 at 1:01 PM, Violet Club said:

Hi all,

 

I'd like to see the Iranian Saequeh F-5E with butterfly tail !

 

It doesn't work like that over here. You have to start your own conversion and when, after much weeping and gnashing of teeth, you've nearly finished it, some manufacturer will bring a brand new injected model... 😁

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More details concerning the RoCAF triple (!) boxing indicate the RF-5E recce & F-5F two seats Tiger II versions are also in the pipe line.

Source: https://www.facebook.com/groups/MilitaryModelingSRG/permalink/2679176415631565/

See also post 16

 

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Markings  - ref. DM720013 - Northrop F-5E Tiger II

Source: https://www.facebook.com/DreamModelOfficial/posts/2023154214481828

- USAF "11419" of 58th TFTW, Luke AFB AZ., ca. 1979.

- USN VFC-13 "Fighting Saints" 761578/13 NAS Fallon, NV., ca. 2016.

- USAF "01557" of 57th Fighter Weapons Wing, Nellis AFB NV.

- USN VFC-111 "Sundowners" 761571/113 AF NAS Key West, Florida.

- Mig-28, from the movie "Top Gun"

- IRIAF F05E 3-7344

- RTAF F-5E "41575"

- ROKAF F-5E "05460"

 

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118912571-2023121624485087-4207585446355

 

 

Source: https://www.facebook.com/DreamModelOfficial/posts/2022481241215792

 

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  • 2 weeks later...

Released - ref. DM720013 - Northrop F-5E Tiger II  (early version)

Source: https://www.facebook.com/DreamModelOfficial/posts/2035366349927281

 

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We are ready, and you?

Our DM720013 F-5E Tiger II [Early] is ready and we will ship it accordingly to all our distributors worldwide.

 

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V.P.

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11 hours ago, Lightningboy2000 said:

Dream Model have answered a question about the canopy & the actuators on Facebook. They're going to release aftermarket parts to pose the canopy open.

 

Martin

Presumably at no extra cost?🤔

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