Devilfish Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 VY-R, Green 3, belonging to F/O AG Lewis, June 1940 at Castle Camps. Airfix 1/48 Hurricane Mk1 Eduard harness Parachute pack on the tail from spares. Xtradecal decals Mr Hobby DG/DE Tamiya sky grey undersides First, the real thing.... 20200607_085042 by Paul Carter, on Flickr 20200816_152600 by Paul Carter, on Flickr 20200816_152610 by Paul Carter, on Flickr 20200816_152618 by Paul Carter, on Flickr 20200816_152628 by Paul Carter, on Flickr 20200816_152641 by Paul Carter, on Flickr 20200816_152637 by Paul Carter, on Flickr 20200816_152732 by Paul Carter, on Flickr 20200816_152725 by Paul Carter, on Flickr 20200816_152706 by Paul Carter, on Flickr And with the rest of my 85 Sqn Hurricanes 20200812_224227 by Paul Carter, on Flickr 20200812_224458 by Paul Carter, on Flickr 43 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Very nice collection of 85 Squadron Hurricanes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnl42 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Well done! Fine 85 Sqn collection! Is there a story for this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilfish Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 46 minutes ago, dnl42 said: Well done! Fine 85 Sqn collection! Is there a story for this? I'm an Ex Bloodhound Missile techie. Just latched onto the 85 Sqn history after doing a bit of reading up about them. I have quite a collection of their aircraft, Se.5a, Mossies, Meteors, Canberra, Havoc, Defiant etc. Got a few more to do. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 great work 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForestFan Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Lovely job, nice quartet too! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAT69 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Excellent build. Very nicely displayed. The parachute on the horizontal stabilizer is a nice touch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfman Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Beautiful build on the Hurricane, love the collection ! Wulfman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilfish Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 5 hours ago, SAT69 said: Excellent build. Very nicely displayed. The parachute on the horizontal stabilizer is a nice touch. Thanks. Typically though, I forgot to put the seat straps outside of the cockpit, as they would be at standby! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairtrigger Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Great build.... The others look great as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMCS Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Fantastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyot Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Lovely job on one of my favourite Battle of Britain Hurri`s,...... an the others are very nice too. Cheers Tony 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-32 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 Great job, I've got those decals in 1/72 scale, might have to break them out now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookenbacher Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 Wonderful collection and tribute Paul. I'm used to seeing your great whif builds, but it's a treat to see your 'historical' work as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevej60 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 Superb work Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 On 19/08/2020 at 06:28, Devilfish said: Xtradecal decals xtra flippin' decals..... If you can, perhaps repaint the spinner. Xtradecals never revise their decal info. This is not one of their better ones, the codes are too slim, they get the colour details wrong. The Sky wraps up over the wing leading edge and under the nose. (the say Sky Grey, but it's a guess) Black spinner with green stripes?!?!?!? OK, they may not have had the full range of photos....but where did that idea spring from... What is really stupid is VY-R P2923 , which is maybe the best photo documented BoB Hurricane. There are 25 or more photos, taken at the same time, from nearly every angle. see here for them. https://www.flickr.com/photos/144949377@N05/albums/72157704898371932 At the time 85 Sq was using flight coloured spinners, which is why the C/O's plane has a white spinner, also in the link VY-Q, P3166. * note the spinner is the same tone as the fin flash and gun patches, so my spinner suggestion is red with white bands. If nothing else, enjoy the Flickr link, great resource. cheers T 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilfish Posted August 21, 2020 Author Share Posted August 21, 2020 7 hours ago, Troy Smith said: xtra flippin' decals..... If you can, perhaps repaint the spinner. Xtradecals never revise their decal info. This is not one of their better ones, the codes are too slim, they get the colour details wrong. The Sky wraps up over the wing leading edge and under the nose. (the say Sky Grey, but it's a guess) Black spinner with green stripes?!?!?!? OK, they may not have had the full range of photos....but where did that idea spring from... What is really stupid is VY-R P2923 , which is maybe the best photo documented BoB Hurricane. There are 25 or more photos, taken at the same time, from nearly every angle. see here for them. https://www.flickr.com/photos/144949377@N05/albums/72157704898371932 At the time 85 Sq was using flight coloured spinners, which is why the C/O's plane has a white spinner, also in the link VY-Q, P3166. * note the spinner is the same tone as the fin flash and gun patches, so my spinner suggestion is red with white bands. If nothing else, enjoy the Flickr link, great resource. cheers T Why green? Because, as you say, 85 were using flight colours for the spinners, and Lewis was Green 3. White bands seems pointless, as they don't signify anything... I'm aware of the codes being the wrong size/thickness, but other than making my own, there was nothing I could do. As for the leading edges, well, I used what photos I had, none of which definitively show VY-R having wrap around. Whereas I appreciate your input, maybe you could work on your bedside manner? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapam Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Lovely build - you really nailed it! I too like the parachute sitting on the tail, ready for the scramble! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Keg Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Very nice Paul. That`s a great collection of Hurricanes. I especially like the “airfield” in the group shot. 😉 Nicely done!!!!! Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 7 hours ago, Devilfish said: Whereas I appreciate your input, maybe you could work on your bedside manner? Please accept my sincere apologies. No offence intended, any given was inadvertent. My irritation is with Xtradecal and their poor research. (this is an ongoing peeve) and concerning a pet subject, and I can get carried away, and for that again I apologise. 7 hours ago, Devilfish said: Why green? Because, as you say, 85 were using flight colours for the spinners, and Lewis was Green 3. What is the source Lewis was Green 3, genuine question, always interested to learn more. In that case, then would not a green spinner base be more likely? Also, i thought flights were A, B, C, and the flight colours were red, blue, yellow, while green 3 sounds like a radio call sign. I have not heard of green as a flight colour. I see a separate thread on this in my future now.... 7 hours ago, Devilfish said: White bands seems pointless, as they don't signify anything... They are an oddity. Personal touch? Related to the use of the white spinner by S/Ldr Townsend? Nothing else is seen like it on the other 85 Sq planes from the same session. But green band on a black spinner does not make sense either. And then a green that will photograph near white? Not a problem if you do not wish to discuss this further, or to discuss it here, but take it to a separate thread just I am always interested to to learn more. PS re 85 sq, I was pretty gobsmacked by this! https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235005804-hurricane-p3886-uniqe-fabric-wing/&do=findComment&comment=3735852 cheers T 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 16 hours ago, Troy Smith said: see here for them. Troy, What an incredible photo collection- thank you so much for sharing it! The more Hurricane photos I see, the more I love that airplane- what a handsome kite! I wonder how many of those very young men depicted in the photos are still with us? They look like teen-agers, and in many instances, they were! We will not see their like again. 'Preciate your taking the time to post the photos. Mike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Joyce Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Wonderful job on the Hurricane, Paul, and a nice little diorama. All that's missing is the individual lounging on the grass😉. A very nice collection of builds, too, and a fitting tribute to the squadron. Cheers, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilfish Posted August 24, 2020 Author Share Posted August 24, 2020 On 8/21/2020 at 2:48 PM, Troy Smith said: Please accept my sincere apologies. No offence intended, any given was inadvertent. My irritation is with Xtradecal and their poor research. (this is an ongoing peeve) and concerning a pet subject, and I can get carried away, and for that again I apologise. What is the source Lewis was Green 3, genuine question, always interested to learn more. In that case, then would not a green spinner base be more likely? Also, i thought flights were A, B, C, and the flight colours were red, blue, yellow, while green 3 sounds like a radio call sign. I have not heard of green as a flight colour. I see a separate thread on this in my future now.... They are an oddity. Personal touch? Related to the use of the white spinner by S/Ldr Townsend? Nothing else is seen like it on the other 85 Sq planes from the same session. But green band on a black spinner does not make sense either. And then a green that will photograph near white? Not a problem if you do not wish to discuss this further, or to discuss it here, but take it to a separate thread just I am always interested to to learn more. PS re 85 sq, I was pretty gobsmacked by this! https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235005804-hurricane-p3886-uniqe-fabric-wing/&do=findComment&comment=3735852 cheers T Apology accepted. I knew when I bought the decal set their research wasn't that great, but added to what I had, I thought I could improve it (code letters not withstanding) The "Green 3" comes from the book "Fighter Squadron at War", a recollection of 85 Sqn form inception to the end of WW2... 20200607_085114 by Paul Carter, on Flickr The photos I have seen (B&W, so no guarantee of anything) seem to show the bands are not white 20200607_085042 by Paul Carter, on Flickr I took a guess at them being green, as it made more sense... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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