AdrianMF Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 I'm going to hate myself for this one. Bought because it was absurdly cheap (less than a fiver) from the second-hand bin at Colpar Hobby in Aurora, Denver. I'd heard of VEB Plasticart but never sampled their products. Here it is: OK, so a bit crude, comedy pilots (quite cute actually), so what's wrong? This: I'm not sure it even fits where it touches. The diagram is taken from an Mil Mi-4 technical manual so I'm guessing it's more accurate than the kit. So I've got the diagram, a couple of photos of my chosen scheme (Aeroflot CCCP-31418), and a big stock of card and Milliput. And a razor saw... 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_W Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Adrian, Another fun one. I will have to follow along and watch what you do with this. I like the alien crew. Ray 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandboof Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Best of luck with this Martin H 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMF Posted August 16, 2020 Author Share Posted August 16, 2020 Well, it's not going to fix itself: So I've built a flight deck, added plastic framework to support the milliput, blanked out the windows with plastic so there's something that will survive cutting out new ones. I'm hoping to keep the vents at the front, and I'll see how windows go before deciding to cut them out or paint them on. Now, I was planning to start a P1127. Where on earth did I put that...? 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halcyonjet Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 An interesting project, and you've made a good start. At least the plastic looks better than the awful white type VEB used for some of their airliner kits -that really is difficult to work with. Dave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMF Posted August 16, 2020 Author Share Posted August 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, halcyonjet said: airliner kits Thanks Dave. The airliners seem to be relatively popular - i'm assuming they are better than this or the only game in town... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMF Posted August 16, 2020 Author Share Posted August 16, 2020 I will be using Milliput tomorrow to create the new surfaces, so some P38 filler first to fill in the biggest gaps: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halcyonjet Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 1 hour ago, AdrianMF said: The airliners seem to be relatively popular - i'm assuming they are better than this or the only game in town... They were the only 'Soviet' airliners available when I first got them 40+ years ago. 1/100th scale so quite large, but generally crude versions of prototypes with strange early engines. The Ilyushin Il-18 makes your Mil look like it was made by Tamiya... Dave 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpthedog Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 (edited) Bit of plastic surgery going on there! Like the civil version too - with spats? Edited August 17, 2020 by Jpthedog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desert falcon Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 That’s a major structual modification you are doing there Adrian - good luck with the rest of the build! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andwil Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 10 hours ago, Jpthedog said: Bit of plastic surgery going on there! Like the civil version too - with spats? 42 minutes ago, desert falcon said: That’s a major structual modification you are doing there Adrian - good luck with the rest of the build! A bit like converting an egg plane kit into an accurate replica...... AW 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMF Posted August 18, 2020 Author Share Posted August 18, 2020 On 17/08/2020 at 22:40, Jpthedog said: with spats? I think I like the look of that one. There’s a photo of one parked in a field with a group of passengers standing by the door. Maybe a vignette... ... meanwhile, Milliput... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMF Posted August 18, 2020 Author Share Posted August 18, 2020 Well I don’t have any 1:100 scale passengers so I had better make some: “Man looking at watch” 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMF Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 The first passenger is ready to board: Meanwhile, I’m about to take a file to the Milliput fuselage extension. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMF Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 File taken! it still looks quite forbidding but it is pretty well smooth. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpthedog Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 21 hours ago, AdrianMF said: I think I like the look of that one. There’s a photo of one parked in a field with a group of passengers standing by the door. Maybe a vignette... ... meanwhile, Milliput... Thats what I call filler..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMF Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 Wet sanded and primed with Mr Halford’s finest: There is work to do but it looks more like a Hound now. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desert falcon Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 Wow, that's some decent filler / sanding work you have done there! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aardvark Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 On 8/16/2020 at 3:18 PM, AdrianMF said: I'd heard of VEB Plasticart but never sampled their products. Someone has never seen, but someone spent their entire childhood with these helicopter models - Mi-4, Mi-1, Yak-24 and Mi-10K. 😉😎 On 8/19/2020 at 2:43 AM, AdrianMF said: Well I don’t have any 1:100 scale passengers so I had better make some: “Man looking at watch” Fans of the VEB Plasticard from this topic: http://scalemodels.ru/modules/forum/viewtopic.php?t=50801&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 recommend using figures for trains at a scale of 1:87: http://scalemodels.ru/articles/13620-Plasticart-1-100-mi-4.html http://scalemodels.ru/modules/forum/viewtopic_t_79985.html because they have different sizes and the difference between 1: 100 and 1:87 is not noticeable. On 8/16/2020 at 3:18 PM, AdrianMF said: This: I'm not sure it even fits where it touches. The diagram is taken from an Mil Mi-4 technical manual This manual is for the military version, so the passenger version will not have a gunner's nacelle below. Also some passengers (including VIP-transport) Mi-4 have rectangular windows, as an example this is an air taxi to the Crimea in 1959: "Flying over Moscow" air travel 1959 with Mi-4: B.R. Serge 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMF Posted August 20, 2020 Author Share Posted August 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Aardvark said: someone spent their entire childhood with these helicopter models Thanks Serge! Interesting references. I’m aiming for a no-pannier, square window civilian. There’s a charming postcard showing a bunch of people waiting to board on a grass landing field, so I want to build that as a vignette. Regards, Adrian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aardvark Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 9 hours ago, AdrianMF said: There’s a charming postcard showing a bunch of people waiting to board on a grass landing field, so I want to build that as a vignette. This: or this: ??? B.w. on photo the same helicopter. I think this more atmospheric & vintage photo: but where to get a deer on a scale of 1: 100? More interesting photo with spirit of epochs: B.R. Serge 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 (edited) Hi, I also spent a lot of my early days doing VEB Plasticard models, however not the Mi-4. This particular was difficult to get. For sure I remember Tu-134, An-24, An-12, B-727, Il-18 etc... You did a massive corection of shapes. In Net there is a lot of photos of mostly military museum preserved Mi-4 but some colorful civiees are there also (for example here https://abpic.co.uk/pictures/model/Mil Mi-4 Hound ) On wingpalette there are numbers of schemes, I am sure you'seen then but I want to recall one Looks like a Guadalcanal time US Marines, but it is Somalian.... Regards J-W p.s decals, but for 1:144 Edited August 27, 2020 by JWM 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMF Posted August 27, 2020 Author Share Posted August 27, 2020 Thanks J-W. I am grateful that I had Airfix and FROG kits as a kid! I’m aiming for scheme #2 of the Eastern Express options. Just got a Blitzbuild to do this weekend... Regards, Adrian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aardvark Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 11 hours ago, AdrianMF said: I am grateful that I had Airfix and FROG kits as a kid! 😁🤔 Everyone had FROG models in childhood, who did not have FROG models in childhood, it means that he is not from our childhood! 😁😁 B.R. Serge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andwil Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 13 hours ago, Aardvark said: 😁🤔 Everyone had FROG models in childhood, who did not have FROG models in childhood, it means that he is not from our childhood! 😁😁 B.R. Serge So true. AW 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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