Vietnam Reference

[Enzo the Magnificent]

Post your reference information here. Please note if posting artwork or photos you must either be the copyright holder or have the copyright holder's permission to post.  

[helios16v]

For your USN squadron/airwing deployment info.  http://www.gonavy.jp/index.html

 

USN/USMC/USAF BuNo/serial numbers.  http://www.joebaugher.com/
 

[trickyrich]

these two are very good sites, but you do sort of have to go down the "Rabbit hole" to find what you need, but there are some great hard to find photos and info in both.

 

http://wings-aviation.ch

 

This one is mostly new stuff, but there are pages inside that go back past the Vietnam era even. Plus lots of great photos from then and deployment details.

 

http://www.seaforces.org

 

 

[helios16v]

While chatting about Sea Kings paints, I came across this USN paint scheme reference guide.  This doesn't apply to anomalies, just the general rules applied to the fleet as a whole.  One thing to keep in mind, the dates mentioned are not a line in the sand.  The dates would apply to the aircraft as they either rolled off the assembly line, or out of a depot level overhaul.  Full airframe repaints are generally not performed at the organizational (squadron) level.  So you would have the potential of a few years where an airframe would be wearing an earlier scheme until it went in for a major overhaul/update.

 

http://www.theworldwars.net/resources/resource.php?r=camo_usn


Actually they have more than just USN, as I'm poking around the site a bit.  RAF, USSR, USN, USAF, USMC, US Army Aviation as well.

http://www.theworldwars.net/resources/

[zebra]

Photos from my visit to Hanoi 5 years ago:

 

Vietnam Military History Museum:

https://flic.kr/s/aHskcXs5yb

 

Vietnam Air Force Museum:

https://flic.kr/s/aHskdtziTW

 

Eagle-eyed observers might notice one of the MiG-17s somehow appears at both museums!

[Angus Tura]

Hello all,

 

I am about to start the 1/72 Centurion for this GB but wanted to post a couple of things here.

 

I would like to build more 1/72 British Armour and spent some time searching around on line and at ABE to try to find out what armour the 20th (Indian) Division had in Vietnam, or French Indochina, in 1945. The 16th Indian Light Cavalry were the armoured support for the 20th infantry division and they operated Daimler and Humber armoured cars. I am really looking forward to the Aussie Centurion and am unlikely to have time for an armoured car also but wanted to post this little bit of reference.

 

Incidentally the book below is published 1970 and so I think that it's now legally, "in the public domain.":https://copyrightservice.co.uk/copyright/p10_duration#:~:text=Typical duration of legal copyright protection%3A&text=50 years from the making,work available to the public.&text=50 years from the date made available to the public.

 

I found this on ABE:

 

 

It is a very fascinating book: I had no clue about this bit of particularly grubby colonial history. The British were made responsible for the Indochina peninsula below the 16th parallel by SEAC until the the French, recognised as the "Sovereign Power", were able to put their own forces on the ground. We, i.e. the British, were mandated to maintain Law and Order but ended up fighting the Vietnamese Nationalists , the Vietminh, until the French arrived to do that themselves. Because there were so few British, or at least British Empire, troops in Vietnam the British re-armed the recently surrendered Japanese leading to the truly bizarre image on the cover of the book.

 

Anyway! There is just one useful photograph from a model-making point of view:

 

 

The arm of service marking is probably green and blue with a white 44 and maybe a white underlining. The mark on the left mudguard is the hand holding a sword white on black of the 20th division. I think the serial/WD number is F155775 which would be compatible with a Humber AC Mk.4.

 

In the very unlikely event of my finishing the Centurion on time I'd like to do up the new Zebrano/PST Humber Mk.4 in these markings.

 

Please let me know, Enzo, if I've got the copyright situation wrong.

 

Alan

 

 

Edited October 10, 2020 by Angus Tura
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[modelling minion]

It really is a fascinating time to study, I wonder how the Japanese soldiers felt about being sent into combat by one former foe against another.

The Humber is a great looking armoured car and would make a great addition to the GB if you had the time to do it.