Bish Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 (edited) I am about to start my 2nd 72nd boat this year, in fact my second ever. I'll be building U-552 in its early fit. And for extras, i have a couple of sets from eduard. A PE set and resin 88mm deck gun. A White Ensign set includes some PE parts and a template to correct some of the flood drain holes. And from Schatton-Modellbau a radio antenn and metal barrel for the 2cm Flak. G-Factor propellers and another Schatton set, metal periscopes. And finally, a wooden deck from Nautilus Models which includes resin hatches. I also have some waterline decals and a fabric flag from AMP. Edit: below is a link to the AMP site where a number of U-Boat articles can be downloaded. I only used the first one, which compiles a number of the articles further down the page. The Wolf Pack II collection is a more recent addition and i have not yet looked at that, but i will down load it now i have seen it for the Type XI info. https://amp.rokket.biz/lib_uboats.shtml Edited March 15, 2021 by Bish 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tojo72 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 This should be a great project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Newsome Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Tojo72 said: This should be a great project Just thinking the same thing myself. 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 Nice change of driection after that Excellent Warrior! Rob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bish Posted August 9, 2020 Author Share Posted August 9, 2020 Thanks guys. Rob, i've had quite a bit of variety this year. Only thing missing is some German armour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planebuilder62 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 I’ll pull up a seat. regards Toby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bish Posted August 31, 2020 Author Share Posted August 31, 2020 Finally time for an update on the U-Boat. I spent the first 2 weeks just working on the port side hull. It was just all drilling and sanding and filling. I am useing the Wolf Pack article by Dougie Martindale and Wink Grise that i downloaded from AMP a few years ago. These guys develope the U-Bras set now sold by WEM that corrects many of the errors on the Revell kit. The artcile also gives good detail on the flood holes on the U-552 along with other Tupe VII's. So, starting the the front, i cut out the cheack piece and replaced that with the U-Brass part. Also the row of small round holes along the top of the hull were filled and re-drilled. The Revell ones are to big and to far forward. Also filled the 3 holes at the front of the hull as these are to bag and the pattern is wrong. But i have just noticed i still need to finish re-drilling these. Then the forward portion of the free flooding vents. Over the whole boat, i need to fill 7 holes, drill 11 new ones and alter 2. Also filled and re-drilled the curved line of vents which drain water away from the deck gun. In the middle, the central drainage area, the recess running along the top of the saddle tanks, was cut out and ribs added. The brass part above can either be used as a template or replace the kit area, again, some holes needed filling. And the rear free flooing vents alng with the 3 vents above the saddle tank. These had to be done twice as i messed up first time. I have left the exhaust as i am not sure if i should drill that or just paint it in. If its drilled, it will need somthing behind it so you can't see straight through. The holes on the underside can be corrected with a set from Model Brass. But this is pricey and i would not need the vast majority of it. So i just drilled them out and re-shapped with a round needle file. You can see where i over did the sanding and went right through. But fortunatly that will be covered by base of the propeller shaft. And the ones at the front. And the whole part. One thing i learnt is that was easier to thin the plastic before drilling out the vents. I still need to do a little clean up on some of the holes. On the inside, i addd some styrene sheet to replicate the saddle tank extending into the hull. Once the hull halves are together and the ''pressure hull'' fitted, i will tidy that up. Now i just have to repeat the whole process on the starboard side. After 2 weeks of that, i decided i need a break so moved onto the tower. The top and bottom halves are together with the external PE added from the Eduard set. I plan to prime and paint the inside befor ethen fitting this out and getting it all together. The 2 periscopes were put together including the metal parts. The Nautilus wood deck is based exactly on the Revell one, including errors. This includes the hole for the UZO sight. This should be in the middle, but Revell places it over the the left side.So on my piece i cut out the correct area, fortunatly the base of the UZO covers most of the area where the incorrect hole is. And 4 more bit of AM arrived, 3D printed parts from Shapeways. Left to right, turnbuckles which i ahve kept in their little box, insulators for the antenna wire's, UZO base and sight and anchor. Thats all for now. I plan on spending this week finishing off the tower and working on the deck gun. Then at the wekend i will start on the starboard side of the hull. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenoz Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 (edited) You are going all the way with these... Following with interest. Will you also add some canning to the surfaces while you are at it? Edited August 31, 2020 by Silenoz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bish Posted August 31, 2020 Author Share Posted August 31, 2020 Thanks Silenoz. Ye, i plan on giving it a go. Never done anything like that before so going to take it gently. But i will wait until the hull halves are together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyPG Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Good to see another U-Boat surfacing. Watching with interest. Andy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bish Posted September 3, 2020 Author Share Posted September 3, 2020 Thanks Andy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bish Posted October 3, 2020 Author Share Posted October 3, 2020 Been a few weeks but finally got an update. In my last one i said that i was almost ready to primer the tower. I then made the mistake of checking my referances again and realised it needed some fixing. Unfortunatly photo's of the inside of towers are tricky to find. It seems that Revell mat have based theirs on U-995 which is on display at ladoe. But this is a late style tower. At the top front of the tower was a shelf which went full width and stuck out to far. This was chopped in half and sanded back. The Eduard PE set has a compass face which goes on this shelf, but that should be on a frame which i will have to build. At the bottom of the tower was another shelf which went right round the sides. Oddly this is where Revell place the voice pipe and compass repeater, almost at floor level. I trimmed this leaveing just a step on either side and built up the front and then put the voice pipe onto the higher shelf. I still have a bit of work to do, including the fitting for the crew to attach their saftey harness to. I then spent over 2 weeks working on the starboard side of the hull. I sanded through to far at the rear, so i need to repair that area. The centre is done. At the front i still need to fit the new parts around the torpedo doors. So, after 8 weeks, i'm going to put this to one side to build a couple of aircraft and an armour kit before the year is out. Will be back to this soon. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bish Posted March 14, 2021 Author Share Posted March 14, 2021 This is an update i missed at the tail end of Feb, focusing on the conning tower. On the top piece i have sanded away the molded on wood sides, added the loops where the crew can hook on their saftey harness by drilling out a small indentation and useing some fine wire. Also used some styrene for the 5 braces around the front of the tower. The same for the other side. The 4 small white buts of styrene are the hinges for folding seats. From what i have read these were in different locations depening on the boat, on the 552 they were on the port side. There are no clear images of these seats or a clear description of them. I am guessing they are wood rather than metal or fabric, so i have cut them out from some spare pieces on the nautilus deck kit. I have also decided to replace the kit periscope bases with some 3D printed ones. Unfortunatly they are not sold seperatly, they only comes with some snorkel parts, which i won't need, and a UZO which i already have. But i can use my other UZO for my Type IX. I am going to order that next month. The bottom of the tower has been finished, no scratching needed here, just PE and kit parts. I will have to scratch some tubes which carry the radio wires and are at the back of this piece but not included in the kit. The Eduard deck gun is complete, all resin and PE. Rather intricate but a nice looking piece. And finally the railing around the back of the tower. These are 2 thick and its recomended to make a new one out of wire or live with the thick parts. I took a 3rd option and simply sanded down the whole thing to make the railings thinner. I am happy with that. I have since primed all this and painted the inside of the tower, its now in the shed drying. I then moved onto the hull. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bish Posted March 14, 2021 Author Share Posted March 14, 2021 Been working on the hull the last couple of weeks and got the starboard side cheek piece in place. Theres a lot of work to get these fitted. Also added the torpedo doors. The doors are actually a fraction smaller than the opening, so they need somthing to old them in place. I use some styrene strip. Also aded the front of the torpeo tubes. These won't be seen byt they do with with strengtheing the hull. I also added styrene inside the hull to replicate the saddle tanks. I removed the one i did on the port side and re-did it as it was to wide. I then sprayed black primer on the inside where it migt be seen through the many openings. And primed over the PE areas so i can see what more work needs to be done to blend them in. There is still some work to do there, but i will do that after finally getting the hull together. This should make it easier to handle without damaging the rib's i added. And putting the hull together is what i did next. 3 months work, but finally got to this stage. So thats where i am at. Goung to finish of those PE areas and tidy up the other areas. Also going to mask the rivets prior to oil canning. I have been trying to get some X-Acto No 12 blades for a couple of months but no one seems to have them. Finally found a UK based e-bay seller with them, though i am dubious as he h=is sellign 2 packs of 5 for the same price that one pack usually sells for. They are meant to be here Thurs, so will see what i get. But hopefully i can finish off all that and get to ad the rest of the hull parts. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 That is some impressive work so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bish Posted March 15, 2021 Author Share Posted March 15, 2021 Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Great detailing, it’s a pain sticking to the largely unique vent patterns and modifications of each u-boat, but it looks worth it already. I’ll need to read up on this boat. ive this kit in the garage and will prob make a start in the summer following ur lead. Great tips too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bish Posted March 15, 2021 Author Share Posted March 15, 2021 Thanks valkyrei. This boat is best known for sinking the Ruben james in 1941, commanded by Erich Topp. Its one of the few boats that survived to the end of the war, being scutteled by its crew in may 45. The Revell instructions are a rab off when it comes to the early and late options, so its worth douing some reading. The article i down loaded from AMP has been really useful and does indicate the various patterns for 552. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bish Posted March 15, 2021 Author Share Posted March 15, 2021 I have edited my first post and attached the link to AMP for those who may want to download the very useful U-Boat articles. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 great progress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bish Posted March 15, 2021 Author Share Posted March 15, 2021 Thanks mick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Aris Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 very nice, that takes me back to the 80's pushing a British diesel boat around the seas, we used to have more of one class of Submarine then, than we have in the whole of the currant RN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bish Posted March 29, 2021 Author Share Posted March 29, 2021 So, about 11 days ago i said i would be starting on the oil canning that weekend. Didn't quite work out like that. I spent the best part of a week, starting at the front and going along one side and then repeating on the other, blending in the edges of the PE and cleaning up where i had filled flood holes and other bits. Going the check pieces was tricky as it mean filling PE and trying not to lose rivet detail. But it feels and loks like it has paid off and i think its created an oil canning effect at the same time. Still need to fix the 2 drain holes at the front. The PE sections above the saddle tanks were removed and re-fitted. These stuck out to much so i cleaned and filed down the plastic creating a shelfe for the PE to sit into making it flush. I also removed all of the rib detail and replaced it with thicker sheet styrene. I had used the thinnest one i had, but this was just not strong enough and kept coming away. So i recut and replaced all of the ribs and its holding fine now. And then on Wed i finally got to the oil canning. Its taking longer then i thought, the pic below is after 3 nights. I am doing one section atb a time, running the curved blade down it and then useing small round sanding sticks to clean it up and get a nice curve. At first i could not see the effect, and you can't really see it in the pic, but when i turne my bench light off, the shadow create by the room light showed off the curves and i think its working out well. I have managed to get these done with 1 blade but its starting to dull now so will have to replace it. As well as the drain holes at the front, i also need to fix these at the bow underneath. These are both on the starboard side, the port side is fine. And i also have the inside of the tower painted. My referance said the inside of the 552's tower was either black or dark grey. There is one pic were you can see the inside of the tower as well as the railing around the rear and the wave deflector part way up the tower. We know the deflector is black on top, and to my eye this looke to be the same as the tower and railings, so i opted for black. I have also given it a gloss coat prior to some light weathering. My main focus with this now is to finish the oil canning. But i do need to get on with my 262 as well as a Stuka for the CAS GB. So i plan on working on those 2 and spend about 30mins per evening doing the oil canning. Hopefully by the time the aircraft are down, the hull should be ready for the final touches. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planebuilder62 Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Hello there Bish Any new progress on this great build? regards Toby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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