JWM Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 (edited) Hi, I have four Heinkels 111, or better to say four and half of them in my stash, since one of them is Zwilling I will try to do all of them in best case (and one on them in the worst case... ) The He 111 E I would like to do Polish campaign, He 111 H from BoB, Zwilling (Z-1 of course) from Eastern front and He 111 CI would like to do as Chineese "A" with Wright Cyclone engines or as G-3 from Germany - anyway as radial... To do G-3 it could be nice to find donor for new style wings, so it depends if I find it... Regards J-W Edited October 18, 2020 by JWM 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mottlemaster Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 48 minutes ago, JWM said: Hi, I have four Heinkels 111, or better to say four and half of them in my stash, since one of them is Zwilling I will try to do all of them in best case (and one on them i the worst case... ) The He 111 E I would like to do Polish campaign, He 111 H from BoB, Zwilling (Z-1 of course) from Eastern front and He 111 CI would like to do as Chineese "A" with Wright Cyclone engines or as G-3 from Germany - anyway as radial... To do G-3 it could be nice to find donor for new style wings, so it depends if I find it... Regards J-W OMG that is a history of the 111 in a single project . .You have my attention JWM 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vppelt68 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 That's the way to do it (I'm waiting for the MTO GB to launch my Ju 88 quartet!) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arniec Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 That is a nice collection you want to build. Hope you can do them all. Good luck with your build. Cheers, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired Bob Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Well J-W that is an interesting collection of He 111 models. Are you planning to build all of them at the same time or make them one after the other? I'm asking as with only two to build at the same time my table is covered with wings, fuselage sections and all the other sub-assemblies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 I would love to do the Emil in SCW or Polish campaign markings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Hills Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 JWM, I reckon you should do the C or the E first. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted July 27, 2020 Author Share Posted July 27, 2020 9 hours ago, Retired Bob said: Are you planning to build all of them at the same time or make them one after the other? I'm asking as with only two to build at the same time my table is covered with wings, fuselage sections and all the other sub-assemblies. 34 minutes ago, Adrian Hills said: JWM, I reckon you should do the C or the E first. Thank you! - Yes, I am aware that Roden kits are not as fast as Hasegawa... But I am going to do all simultaneously, at least up to painting time. That is the only way to have chance to fit in time. Regards J-W 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mottlemaster Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 So you are going for the Henry Ford method . please dont paint them all black 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Touvdal Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Good luck with the Roden kits, they are the worst kits ever made, build one when they first came out. Nothing fits so hope you have alot of putty . cheers Jes 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Touvdal said: Nothing fits so hope you have alot of putty . Thank you for advice, I have a brand new tube of Tamiya filler and more then half of Milliput box, so I think I am prepared! Cheers J-W 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 13 hours ago, Touvdal said: Good luck with the Roden kits, they are the worst kits ever made, build one when they first came out. Nothing fits so hope you have alot of putty . cheers Jes Jes, I've just realized, that He 111 G-3 (which I am thinking about just I am looking around for wing donor, to convert from Roden He 111 C) has the unit emblem, which you use as your avatar: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 The He 111 E will be maybe that one; or that one ( but with overpainted red strip on tail) For H-6 and Zwilling I am not decided yet Regards J-W 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Touvdal Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 Yes you are right, Kastrup Airport (Denmark) is not far from where i live and Luftwaffe planes are my main interess. Actually there is a good story on this plane, here from a Swedish site. https://lae.blogg.se/2017/november/heinkeln-som-skots-ner-vid-viken-1944.html Cheers Jes 10 hours ago, JWM said: Jes, I've just realized, that He 111 G-3 (which I am thinking about just I am looking around for wing donor, to convert from Roden He 111 C) has the unit emblem, which you use as your avatar: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted July 29, 2020 Author Share Posted July 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Touvdal said: https://lae.blogg.se/2017/november/heinkeln-som-skots-ner-vid-viken-1944.html Interesting in this link are also differences in CE+NX machine - on first color photo she has spinners, on others no. The swastika in '44 crashed machine is just white contour, wheres on older photos looks like with black inside (maybe it is just the question of contrast). Thank you for this link, google translator works to get what is written... Regards J-W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf_Filip Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Very interesting! I have been going to build that very Heinkel He 111G-3 myself. I have it half finished somewhere in my stash. I messed up some of the windows and I kind of lost interested after that... Someday I will try and finish it. I used the wings from an Italeri Heinkel. They fitted better to the Roden fuselage than the Roden wings did! Engines and propellers came from an Italeri Junkers Ju 86. The really hard part was to figure out how the engine nacelles should look. I used the Ju 86-parts and some Milliput. I'm not sure if I got it completely right, but it will have to do. I live in Helsingborg not far from where the Heinkel crashed. I actually have one of the Bosch magnetoes from this aircraft in my little "mancave/hobbyroom". Rudolf_Filip 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf_Filip Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 It turns out that I even made a thread here on Britmodeller! Rudolf_Filip 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted August 1, 2020 Author Share Posted August 1, 2020 10 hours ago, Rudolf_Filip said: It turns out that I even made a thread here on Britmodeller! MAny thank - I went through you thread, unfortunatelly the links from 2011 are not working, however there are also nice photos from crash. I am curious about the shape of engine fairing - you've made them much bigger that in V-engine Hs111s are Maybe it should be like that, I have to dig out for some photos if they support it. Regards J-W 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted August 1, 2020 Author Share Posted August 1, 2020 I started from painting insides with RLM -02. This time I have used Revell 45 in this role, it is really very similar to Humbrol 240 and I wanted to spend it using for insides, keeping Humbrol for outsides. Roden 111e Roden 111 c - for G Hasegawa Zwilling I did the same to Revell 111H, but I lost photo while coping by mistake. I have to do photo again... Regards J-W 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted August 2, 2020 Author Share Posted August 2, 2020 Hi A take with parts of He 111 H: Here are some progress with Zwilling I realized, that for early variants the RLM-02 os inside colour is almost sure, but in case of at least Zwiling the inside of cockpit should be perhaps in RLM 74, as for other Germans in later years of war? I am curious - what is expert opinion on this? The H6 kit I have I am not sure if I will not change to H4 or H3 (props and gondola to small modifications I think) - anyway they were produced in 1940 likely, but Zwiling is much newer, like H22 perhaps... The Roden He-111e And Roden He 111c going to be He-111g fuselage Having problem with finding donor for new style wings for He111g I decided to convert old, eliptical one into new-style. I cut out the leading edges and ailerons and from 0.75 mm plastic cart cut the shape of outside part if wing. I noticed, that the flaps are same in old and new style wings I sanded down some area to make rook for the plastic card Glued And filled (first approach) with Milliput Next to them are wings from Revell kit of H-6 variant. To be continued Regards J-W 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 For most German aircraft the interiors were not 74 but 66. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired Bob Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Hi J-W, the first two Zwillings were built by October 1942 using H-6 airframes, the last ten were built in November and December 1942 using a mix of H-6 and H-16 airframes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted August 3, 2020 Author Share Posted August 3, 2020 The museum machines seems to have dark grey in cockpit area https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTDmGTknCq_7zICvYPq58ffxIP8kJ04bBJL0Q&usqp=CAU http://www.aviationmuseum.eu/Blogvorm/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Heinkel-He-111-P-2-5JCN-Luftwaffe.jpg https://www.airplane-pictures.net/photo/184482/701152-germany-luftwaffe-ww2-heinkel-he-111/ Revell in instruction gives RLM 02 (Revell 45) - apparently not correct,,,, Regards J-W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arniec Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 It is a tough one about the cockpit color. As it was a maschine build in 1939. But from the pictures I have seen from the 111 in Norway it schould be dark grey (RLM66). Cheers, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mottlemaster Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 10 hours ago, Arniec said: It is a tough one about the cockpit color. As it was a maschine build in 1939. But from the pictures I have seen from the 111 in Norway it schould be dark grey (RLM66). Cheers, Arnold, , the machine you reference to in Norway ,is that the one shot down by the Skuas asiv painted interior Rlm 02 Cheers Alistair 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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