bigbadbadge Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 18 minutes ago, RichieW said: That's very kind of you Chris, it's a bit of a venture into the unknown for me but it's good fun. I still have no idea how I'm going to attach the lower wings but I'll worry about once they're skinned and the cockpit is finished. Don't hold your breath though, nothing happens very quickly on my bench! 😄 I know what you mean , my builds are usually at a glacial pace !!! Keep up the good work. Chris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, RichieW said: I still have no idea how I'm going to attach the lower wings but I'll worry about once they're skinned and the cockpit is finished. Don't hold your breath though, nothing happens very quickly on my bench! I’d be inclined to drill two holes through the fuselage and put a length of brass rod through both then drill holes in the wings, that way you can assure alignment of the wings. butt joints rarely survive well. That’s the way I tackled the lower wings on the PB31 the upper ones are just pinned with brass rod. On my Taube the rods are actually through the wing acting as a spar. Edited April 17, 2021 by Marklo 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieW Posted April 17, 2021 Author Share Posted April 17, 2021 Thanks Marklo, much appreciated. Was puzzled as to how I was going to do it. Look a good solution. 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandsaw Steve Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 May I say how very well you are doing with a very challenging subject. If you want to see how I did something very similar, very badly, feel free to have a look at my Avro 504 on these very pages. (Sorry I’ve never worked out how to post a link while using a phone but a quick search should find it.) @hendie @phoenix @Martian get over here guys- you have to see this! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieW Posted April 18, 2021 Author Share Posted April 18, 2021 Thanks Bandsaw, will definitely check out your Avro 504, I love that aircraft! Off to early morning cricket practice now, will check it out when I get home. I shall resume hostilities with the wings too. 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandsaw Steve Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Sounds good mate. As you can see I have taken the liberty of inviting a few of my raggamuffin mates over to your place. Just be aware: - To maintain @hendie ‘s interest you may need to convince him that this aircraft served with 28 squadron. - @phoenix will try to convince you to mount the engine and propeller at the rear of the aircraft. - No-one can guess what @Martian might ask for, but laser guns, antigravity engines and force-field generators are all possible. Despite their rather ‘unique’ characteristics each of these folks can offer expert advice on this project. I suspect you will just need to sort the wheat from their -typically rather voluminous- chaff. 🤔 Hope the cricket practice goes well! Bandsaw Steve 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 6 hours ago, Bandsaw Steve said: Sounds good mate. As you can see I have taken the liberty of inviting a few of my raggamuffin mates over to your place. Just be aware: - To maintain @hendie ‘s interest you may need to convince him that this aircraft served with 28 squadron. - @phoenix will try to convince you to mount the engine and propeller at the rear of the aircraft. - No-one can guess what @Martian might ask for, but laser guns, antigravity engines and force-field generators are all possible. Despite their rather ‘unique’ characteristics each of these folks can offer expert advice on this project. I suspect you will just need to sort the wheat from their -typically rather voluminous- chaff. 🤔 Hope the cricket practice goes well! Bandsaw Steve To be honest, I am more likely to ask for a barrel of real ale. Laser guns only come out if the ale is withheld. Martian 👽 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieW Posted April 18, 2021 Author Share Posted April 18, 2021 Laser guns would have been handy though! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendie Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 9 minutes ago, RichieW said: Laser guns would have been handy though! I put a Vickers MkII Light Saber on my Wapiti build. Does that count? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieW Posted April 18, 2021 Author Share Posted April 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, hendie said: I put a Vickers MkII Light Saber on my Wapiti build. Does that count? Most definitely! The force is strong in this one! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieW Posted April 18, 2021 Author Share Posted April 18, 2021 Well cricket practice was fun Steve, I'm still awful. Good to know my performance level hasn't dropped! I saw your Avro 504 and remembered I lurked in the background and followed the build, incredible stuff! I got a little bit done, the wings are sort of skinned. I couldn't get the skin to follow the wing tip contours so opted for milliput extensions and a lot of sanding. Much to do yet but I reckon I can get them to look OK. I also whittled a rudder bar out of sheet plastic so I could hide it in the cockpit never to be seen again and made a pump out of brass tube and a pin with the head filed to look like a handle. I will hide this from sight in the cockpit too. Wing Skinning, by Richard Williams, on Flickr pump, by Richard Williams, on Flickr You've got me thinking it might be fun to hide a light sabre in there somewhere too! I've been ordered into the garden so tidying up the wings will have to wait. Cheers all, thanks for looking in. Richie 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 2 hours ago, RichieW said: so opted for milliput extensions and a lot of sanding. I tend to do that too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbadge Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Great work on the wings and cockpit details. Yes had to do my chores in the garden today too. Chris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandsaw Steve Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 3 hours ago, hendie said: I put a Vickers MkII Light Saber on my Wapiti build. Does that count? Like I said. Lots of chaff before you get any wheat! 😀 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieW Posted April 18, 2021 Author Share Posted April 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Bandsaw Steve said: Like I said. Lots of chaff before you get any wheat! 😀 The chaff is all very welcome, put a big smile on my face today! Been reading through your Avro build again. I'm thinking why bother with all that wing skinning faff? Will look into methods of getting a good enough surface to paint straight onto. I have a feeling I will find the answer in your build thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieW Posted April 18, 2021 Author Share Posted April 18, 2021 That was meant to be a 😃 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieW Posted April 20, 2021 Author Share Posted April 20, 2021 Just a little update, there has been a lot of filling and sanding on the wings, there is a lot more in my immediate future. I hope to have them ready for primer and paint in a week or two. For a little bit of therapy I decided to make some cockpit parts. There are a couple of levers on a bracket with what look like pipes, I'm guessing that one is a throttle lever. One lever and the frame was made out of a ghastly photoectched turnbuckle and the frame from part of the brass fret. The other lever has a flat shaft and round handle so I just walloped a piece of brass tube. It's all just CAd together. Nice and easy but it took hours whilst I scratched my head and wondered whether to bother and how to do it. 20210419_190321 by Richard Williams, on Flickr The instrument panel and pump are glued in place here, I will glue what I am calling the throttle lever in place later once more of the internal gubbins is in place. Cockpit details by Richard Williams, on Flickr Now back to sanding and filling...... Cheers all Richie 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandsaw Steve Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Looking good! 👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murdo Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 That's looking pretty good so far! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMF Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Just caught up with this. It is all looking splendid! Regards, Adrian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbadge Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Great work on the levers Richie. Ip looks fab in place too. Chris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieW Posted April 22, 2021 Author Share Posted April 22, 2021 Spent a pleasant few hours making tiny little pieces, when I first came back to modelling I used to just throw away all small kit parts. Buying an optivisor was a good idea....maybe! The control stick and rock tube front bracket are mostly finished. The hex bolts on the control stick are punched out of styrene as is the 2mm circular disc that the tube will be fixed, probably with a pin. It's just sitting on the tube here to save me from losing it. The control stick horns were cut from litho and filed into shape after punching 0.5mm holes to take the control lines. The painted metal parts were primed with Future, hopefully the paint will stick. Scout Rock Tube by Richard Williams, on Flickr Scout control column by Richard Williams, on Flickr Scout Control stick and rock tube by Richard Williams, on Flickr I doubt any of this will be seen again once/if the build is finished but it was fun to do. Thanks for stopping by Richie 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMF Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 1 hour ago, RichieW said: doubt any of this will be seen again But - you know it’s there Nice work! Regards, Adrian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieW Posted April 23, 2021 Author Share Posted April 23, 2021 6 hours ago, AdrianMF said: But - you know it’s there Nice work! Regards, Adrian I have photographic evidence to prove it too! 😏 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbadge Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Great work on these lovely little bits. Chris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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