Hawker Hurricane Mk IIc 1/48 Arma Hobby

[TheKinksFan]

I don't really understand the logic behind this idea that their release of a 1/48 doesn't make sense. Just because Eduard will release theirs some time in the future, after several years. Maybe Arma Hobby should start consulting some random dudes on modelling forums to find out the perfect models to release. Or not.

 

Those who like Arma Hobby kits are likely to buy the kit. And those who like Hurricanes are also likely to buy the kit. Buying an Arma Hobby Hurricane doesn't mean that the same people won't buy an Eduard kit or kits in the future. After all, buying a plastic model kit is not like buying a car or house.

 

 

[Tbolt]

37 minutes ago, TheKinksFan said:

I don't really understand the logic behind this idea that their release of a 1/48 doesn't make sense. Just because Eduard will release theirs some time in the future, after several years. Maybe Arma Hobby should start consulting some random dudes on modelling forums to find out the perfect models to release. Or not.

 

Those who like Arma Hobby kits are likely to buy the kit. And those who like Hurricanes are also likely to buy the kit. Buying an Arma Hobby Hurricane doesn't mean that the same people won't buy an Eduard kit or kits in the future. After all, buying a plastic model kit is not like buying a car or house.

 

 

 

Also Arma are doing a 1/72nd P-51D before Eduard do - maybe Arma will go out of business 😂

[Lusitanian]

I received an email from my friend at Arma Hobby stating that the 1/48 Hurricane IIc will be released early in the year 2023.

 

When will we see an Eduard Hurricane?  2024? 2025? 2029?  Who knows the answer?

Best wishes!

[Thomas V.]

Arma is nowhere near finesse of surface detail of Eduard, also their capacity of producing new kits or variation of is again heavily not in their favour( for now), again as said Eduard and Arma are cooperating as well being competitors( P-51D), but given strong Eduard position in 48th scale and ability to cover lot of ground very quickly( all marks) makes no sense, as well quality being not the same, since topic of pricing is forbidden, we wont go there, but of course it will play its part, definitely not in Arma's favour ( just as Airfix 05xxx Spitfires and Mustangs after Eduard Weekend boxings of the same subjects, not to mention Ovetrees).

Edited October 11, 2022 by Thomas V.

[zigster]

I just hope, that their second entry into 1:48 scale will be better, (considering their research into Hurricane, correcting tail-wheel etc, and getting into way of doing things) than their first - P11c.

I've got old Has 2c in stash. Yet I'll definitely have a look, when they release their kit.

As for Eduard releasing whatever Hurries... Whoever wants, can wait. Or maybe build some "inferior" kits from the stash 🙂

Everybody got a mountains of kit boxes to build, yet there's always some moans about new releases being late, postponed etc..... funny.

zig

 

[TheKinksFan]

There's an interesting interview with Grzegorz Mazurowski from Arma hobby on the Sprue Cutters Union Podcast. If I'm not mistaken he is  @GrzeM on this forum. It should be understood that Arma Hobby is not trying to become Eduard, and when they are designing their kits Eduard kits are not the gold standard that they are trying to emulate. Their philosophy is more like Tamiya's, meaning that the buildability is very important. And they are not necessarily planning or trying to release all possible variants like Eduard. It's OK to compare manufacturer's offerings, but it's nonsense to say that they shouldn't release something, or can't compete with an other manufacturer because their product is different. Which one is better is often just a subjective opinion, not a fact.

 

This thread is primarily meant for those who are interested in the AH kit, and are waiting for it to see what it's gonna be like. There's no point complaining why are they releasing it. Maybe those who are so inclined should start a separate Arma Hobby Bashing thread: 'No finesse!!!,  no rivets!!!, overpriced!!!, wrong schemes!!!, wrong subjects!!!

Edited October 11, 2022 by TheKinksFan
typo corrected

[Tbolt]

10 hours ago, Thomas V. said:

Arma is nowhere near finesse of surface detail of Eduard, also their capacity of producing new kits or variation of is again heavily not in their favour( for now), again as said Eduard and Arma are cooperating as well being competitors( P-51D), but given strong Eduard position in 48th scale and ability to cover lot of ground very quickly( all marks) makes no sense, as well quality being not the same, since topic of pricing is forbidden, we wont go there, but of course it will play its part, definitely not in Arma's favour ( just as Airfix 05xxx Spitfires and Mustangs after Eduard Weekend boxings of the same subjects, not to mention Ovetrees).

 

That's where we will have to disagree, as far as I'm concerned Arma's finesse of surface detail is on par with Eduard and that's comparing some of their most recent kits, Eduard's A6M with the Arma P-51B.

[alt-92]

9 hours ago, Thomas V. said:

one thing is to be proud of your local manufacturer, other to supress any talk that may not suit you or the brand of your interest.

Then why do you so often insist on dragging Eduard into it? Oh wait.

[Julien]

Yes please stop dragging Eduard into this thread. 

[Homebee]

In 2023:

Source: http://armahobbynews.pl/en/blog/2022/12/30/whats-new-arma-hobby-in-2023/?utm_source=implebot&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Winter-Sale-2022-23&utm_term=2023-whats-new&utm_content=en

 

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(...) The first and most anticipated model in the New Year is Hurricane Mk IIc on a 1/48 scale. It’s hard not to feel your temptation; the number of inquiries on FB, forums and via email and the online store is overwhelming. The model itself is a massive challenge for us. Its introduction is an effort comparable to three 1/72 scale models! Fortunately, we overcame the difficulties, and the model’s release is expected at the end of the first quarter of 2023. The first will be the “IIc” version with three markings options and masks for painting the cabin and wheels included. After that, the “trop” version and most likely the Sea Hurricane IIc. It will take at least a year for these versions to be released. (...)

 

 

V.P.

[Homebee]

Source: https://www.facebook.com/ArmaHobby/posts/pfbid035Yyf8o8gUbna7HT3B5iCUR5732F2CabQnpezXfGdNSCKLWFwJBTTcAUYquwtYmDxl

 

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It’s really hard to contain your emotions when the release of the Hurricane Mk IIc 1/48 scale model kit is approaching. At this point, the transparent sprue and the sprue with wings are ready. At the beginning of April, a sprue with details common to all Hurricane versions will be ready. The last one, with the Mk II version fuselage, is in final development.

Read more on the Armahobbynews Blog: https://tiny.pl/w6mst

 

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It’s really hard to contain your emotions when the release of the Hurricane Mk IIc 1/48 scale model is approaching. At this point, the transparent sprue and the sprue with wings are ready. At the beginning of April, a sprue with details common to all Hurricane versions will be ready. The last one, with the Mk II version fuselage, is in final development.

It was a long way, full of delays and difficulties in developing a project so complex for Arma Hobby. Just like the modellers, our entire team is looking forward to the big Hurricane. We hope, bordering on certainty, that the model will be released in May, and pre-orders will start at the end of April. In the coming weeks we will start presenting the details of the kit and we hope to satisfy your curiosity.

 

 

V.P.

[Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies]

Sprue arrangements today:

 

http://armahobbynews.pl/en/blog/2023/04/06/hurricane-mk-ii-c-1-48-scale-renders-of-the-sprues/?utm_source=facebook &utm_medium=post&utm_campaign=H2C-48&utm_term=40004-ramki&utm_content=en

 

[Homebee]

Source: https://www.facebook.com/ArmaHobby/posts/pfbid02jsdBBexTSsDexNqsgzng9TKZFDCae3kUvADFUWgZ4dsTVUWQ8DZA237o9ehcX6f4l

 

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Today we reveal renders of all sprues with parts that will be included in the Hurricane Mk IIC model kit in 1/48 scale.

It’s easy to notice that our 1/48 Hurricane model kit is much more complex than its 1/72 counterpart. “48th” has over 120 parts, while “72nd” has about 50 parts. That’s more than double the difference. It is also worth paying attention to the arrangement of parts in individual sprues. On this basis, you can try to guess what other versions of this legendary fighter are being prepared.

See the renders of all sprues of the 1/48 Hurricane on the Armahobbynews Blog: https://tiny.pl/w611z

 

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It’s easy to notice that our 1/48 Hurricane model kit is much more complex than its 1/72 counterpart. “48th” has over 120 parts, while “72nd” has about 50 parts. That’s more than double the difference. The work on developing such a model is not, as you might think, a simple “up-scaling of the seven-two”, but creating a completely new project with many more parts. And almost each of these parts has much more detail than its “72nd” counterpart.

 

 

 

 

 

V.P.

Edited April 6 by Homebee

[VMA131Marine]

I see two fuselage keels, but neither one appears to have the recess for an arrestor hook. Still, I don’t doubt they will do a Sea Hurricane .

[Tokyo Raider]

Great news Arma!  I was a fan of your 1/72 hurricane, but switched to 1/48 few years ago...  I've been waiting for this model!

[Grey Beema]

Great news - any chance of a IIb wing and an Arrestor hook & lower fuselage please?

[franky boy]

Great stuff. I’ve been looking forward to this one for ages. 
 

James

[SprueMan]

Looking forward to seeing the decal options for this one

[keithjs]

2 hours ago, SprueMan said:

Looking forward to seeing the decal options for this one

 

Yes indeed but it's going to have to be an Irish Air Corps one for me from Max Decals..(unless of course they're in the kit?)

[keithjs]

Double post oops, sorry.

Edited April 7 by keithjs
Double post oops.

[Troy Smith]

20 hours ago, Grey Beema said:

any chance of a IIb wing and an Arrestor hook & lower fuselage please?

look at the sprue tree and parts layout.   Separate wing sprue,  two belly panel.  Only reason for two is the  hook.  

[SprueMan]

So, you guys think there will be both a IIc and a IIb?

I ask because in this case maybe it is best for me to wait to see both decal options.

[VMA131Marine]

On 4/7/2023 at 10:35 PM, Troy Smith said:

look at the sprue tree and parts layout.   Separate wing sprue,  two belly panel.  Only reason for two is the  hook.  

That’s not the only reason. The Hurricane II had two different types of tail wheel strut: the original Mk.I type and the Dowty sprung type. The keel is slightly different to accommodate each version. I see both types of tail wheel on the sprue layout.

[Troy Smith]

13 minutes ago, VMA131Marine said:

The keel is slightly different to accommodate each version.

News too me.  AFAIK the keel is the same, as you see the sprung type retrofitted, eg P2617  at Hendon.

[VMA131Marine]

46 minutes ago, Troy Smith said:

News too me.  AFAIK the keel is the same, as you see the sprung type retrofitted, eg P2617  at Hendon.

The detail around the opening for the tail wheel strut is different for each version. See how the front of the opening has a chamfer on the Dowty type but doesn’t on the original type. One word of caution is that restored Warbirds are not always consistent in this area and a lot of them with the chamfered opening appear to use the early straight tail wheel strut.