Greg Law Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 Thanks on both topics Ray. I will give your exhaust mix a go. I use an HS Infinity airbrush for finer work. I do use CA gel to put the cross bars on, but I always have trouble getting it to grab. Hence the mess issue. I've tried the accelerator, but is seems to damage the parts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_W Posted September 14, 2020 Author Share Posted September 14, 2020 6 hours ago, Greg Law said: I do use CA gel to put the cross bars on, but I always have trouble getting it to grab. Hence the mess issue. I've tried the accelerator, but is seems to damage the parts. That's a shame. I find a huge variation in performance of CA's. The Gel CA I'm using (Loctite) is good for that quick hold using a very small amount and still has a tiny bit of time to adjust. I placed the dab of CA on the oleo strut. As mentioned before, after this held I touched the joint with Tamiya Extra thin. I then had a neat connection and could do some minor adjustment if still needed with this combination of glues. I did the gear door after this was firm. I had already positioned the doors where I wanted so the cross bar was touching. Here I reversed the process. First a small amount of Tamiya extra thin and then when set (accelerated with the hair dryer) wicked in some extra thin CA for additional strength at the joint. I never use accelerator. Maybe, one day, if I am adding railings to a maritime subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Law Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 What type of loctite do you use? When I went to buy this a few weeks ago I found there were several types. The one l bought doesn't work very well at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_W Posted September 14, 2020 Author Share Posted September 14, 2020 16 minutes ago, Greg Law said: What type of loctite do you use? So called "Super Attak" in "The Original" and "Gel" although I may of used their "Super Bond Power Flex" Gel on the 110's cross-member. Not sure as the tube was right at the end and has been binned. I'm using the CA's all the time for small part no mess holds to then apply some Tamiya Extra Thin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 7 hours ago, Ray_W said: I never use accelerator. I always found accelerator to make a brittle join, I stopped using it 20 years ago for that reason. I kept having stuff snap off or crack when i was barely handling it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Law Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Ray just for your next build. I noted today after looking through my books these early Bf 110's didn't have a triangle marking on the props. It was a small rectangle. Not sure if it is text or just a colour. Got my front canopy on using your gluing technique. 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_W Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 2 hours ago, Greg Law said: Ray just for your next build. I noted today after looking through my books these early Bf 110's didn't have a triangle marking on the props. It was a small rectangle. Not sure if it is text or just a colour. Got my front canopy on using your gluing technique. 👍 Hi Greg, Yes you are correct on the prop markings. You could easily have no prop markings or just use the rectangle part under the VDM triangle. There is that excellent image of a 110 at the gun butts that shows it. I took a little artistic license to jazz up the props. Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Law Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Fair enough. I will leave mine off. I have a feeling they are yellow patches. In fact it is the kits that put the modeller wrong. Both Eduard and Cyber-hobby use the triangle decal in their instructions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_W Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 34 minutes ago, Greg Law said: I will leave mine off. Good call. Not much to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_W Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 On 9/14/2020 at 10:23 PM, Corsairfoxfouruncle said: I always found accelerator to make a brittle join, I stopped using it 20 years ago for that reason. I kept having stuff snap off or crack when i was barely handling it. Hi Dennis, I think after a while you get your CA technique working for you and find little need for accelerator. I have accelerator and just never use it. It's in the same category as my tube of putty. Still in the box. Maybe if I had a stack of long ship railing to do it may be necessary. Then again, maybe not. Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 17 minutes ago, Ray_W said: Hi Dennis, I think after a while you get your CA technique working for you and find little need for accelerator. I have accelerator and just never use it. It's in the same category as my tube of putty. Still in the box. Maybe if I had a stack of long ship railing to do it may be necessary. Then again, maybe not. Ray Believe it or not the best method I've ever found for getting C/A to stick fast and hard(not brittle)was to breath hot breath on it for a minute or two. I use gel C/A and hold the pieces in place while i exhale hard deep breaths on the spot. Sounds very silly but the hot humid breath seems to solidify the C/A quite fast. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_W Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Corsairfoxfouruncle said: Believe it or not the best method I've ever found for getting C/A to stick fast and hard(not brittle)was to breath hot breath on it for a minute or two. I use gel C/A and hold the pieces in place while i exhale hard deep breaths on the spot. Sounds very silly but the hot humid breath seems to solidify the C/A quite fast. Exactly 👍 I do the same. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Law Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Thanks Ray. That photo makes me even more certain it is a yellow patch. Most likely as a warning like the British yellow tips. I took the canopy masks off today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vasco Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 (edited) On 08/09/2020 at 08:36, Ray_W said: . Edited December 24, 2020 by John Vasco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_W Posted December 23, 2020 Author Share Posted December 23, 2020 23 minutes ago, John Vasco said: Nice page... Yes John, shows it perfectly. Is it one of yours? If you like I'll take it down or correctly reference it. Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vasco Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 (edited) 19 hours ago, Ray_W said: . Edited December 24, 2020 by John Vasco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_W Posted December 23, 2020 Author Share Posted December 23, 2020 Just now, John Vasco said: On the contrary, Ray, leave it up. I can post up other sample pages from the two volumes that came from. Not looking to advance myself, or publicise my books, but if it is helpful to those who wish to do a model(s) of the early war Bf 110s, I am more than happy to help in any way I can, and give them pointers. With the internet these days you often pick up images without clarity on the source but important for us who are keen to talk the subject. I would like to reference the source so even if you PM me details I'll add it to the pic. It was the perfect image for what I was trying to replicate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vasco Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 (edited) 18 hours ago, Ray_W said: . Edited December 24, 2020 by John Vasco 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maginot Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 This is a master class in avoiding putty and testing fit and assembly. Really like the self-tapping screw approach. Thank you for sharing your expertise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_W Posted November 21, 2021 Author Share Posted November 21, 2021 @Maginot Glad you like it. A really enjoyable build and I am looking forward to building another one, one day day when I can get around to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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