keefr22 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 47 minutes ago, Back in the Saddle said: There's a documentary on BBC4 about the 747 at 9:00pm Just missed it, hope it's on iplayer tomorrow... Some good progress being made Matt. Keith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 ..damit, missed the documentary too! Mind you I had another 747 to watch in glorious technicolour earlier, the arrival of G-CIVI. Boeing 747 -436 G-CIVI British Airways by James Thomas, on Flickr Excellent work going on Matt, I think you are wise to fit the windscreen now to help get the nose profile right. Airliner kits always seem to be a bad fit and harder subsequently builds, but you are doing well. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Lovely, though poignant, pic James.... Keith edit - was that one that was in Cardiff? If it was must rank as one of the shortest 747 flights....?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Thanks Keith, no this one came from Heathrow. We have had one from CDF in the past and yes it was s very short flight, I have a picture of its departure from there and it's arrival at Saints, taken from the same place! Two of the CDF 747s have flown to Kemble, and I am hearing that they might go on to a new life, which will be great news if true. Theres a good Norman Foster 747 docu on BBC iPlayer, from 1991, is that the one on BBC4 tonight. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey-1980 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 I caught the last 5 minutes of the 747 documentary and a little bit of the Rolls Royce docu afterwards Will have to catch up with it soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 (edited) ...found it myself in the end, superb archive footage, such an amazing achievement by 'the Incredibles', in an unimaginable timeframe by todays standards. Edited September 10, 2020 by 71chally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back in the Saddle Posted September 10, 2020 Author Share Posted September 10, 2020 Ironically I missed the programme too, but recorded it instead to watch another time. That's a great shot of IVI's final landing. Here's one of the same aircraft I took a couple of years ago in Seattle: Not entirely gratuitous, as it shows the nose and windscreens - an area that is currently demanding my attention. Here's the current state of play: Getting better, but more work still required! I have also discovered that white primer is not so good for highlighting blemishes, so once I've finished blending the windscreens it will all get a coat of grey again - at least each coat of primer makes the panel lines more subtle! When I'm happy with the finish, it will get a coat of white primer before I spray the final colours. I have dry fitted the tailplanes and they are almost a perfect fit. The wings might need a little more attention - their fit is slightly too loose. My intention is to finish each component separately then join them all together once painted. I think that will make painting, stencilling and handling easier. G-CIVO is the next one to head to the scrapyard, scheduled for this afternoon.🙁 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 (edited) Nice steady work there Matt, sounds a good plan about joining the wings. and nice picture of VI in better days, she looked distinctly tired yesterday. I take it 'VO is going to Kemble or Spain? This is her last Thursday, Boeing 747 -436s G-CIVO, G-CIVF & G-CIVV British Airways by James Thomas, on Flickr Edited September 10, 2020 by 71chally 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Reading the BBC news on my iPad this morning I am amazed to read that 8000 jumbos will be needed to distribute the upcoming virus vaccine worldwide. Mightn’t destroying all these 747s being just a little hasty? Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back in the Saddle Posted September 10, 2020 Author Share Posted September 10, 2020 3 hours ago, 71chally said: I take it 'VO is going to Kemble or Spain? She's off to Kemble in about half an hour... 2 hours ago, DMC said: Mightn’t destroying all these 747s being just a little hasty? That thought crossed my mind too Dennis. I'm just applying some more filler to the top of the windscreens, so I can have a fettle with them later! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 3 hours ago, DMC said: Reading the BBC news on my iPad this morning I am amazed to read that 8000 jumbos will be needed to distribute the upcoming virus vaccine worldwide. Mightn’t destroying all these 747s being just a little hasty? Dennis They've got to get a working vacine first - and I'd think it will take a while to make enough to fill 8000 747's....? Maybe they mean 8000 flights? And if you use military transports as well, they should take a chunk out of that? Fingers crossed.... Keith 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 48 minutes ago, keefr22 said: Maybe they mean 8000 flights? No doubt you are right, Keith, 8000 flight sounds more realistic. Had to dash out before I could read it and when I returned it had been removed. 5 hours ago, Back in the Saddle said: My intention is to finish each component separately then join them all together And you can bet I will be paying very close attention to see how you make out with that before I cement my wings on. Dennis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Back in the Saddle said: She's off to Kemble in about half an hour... She's fighting it, didn't depart on tech grounds. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Hi James @71chally, Any of these 747s with RR RB211s? Dennis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry1954 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 31 minutes ago, 71chally said: She's fighting it, didn't depart on tech grounds. As you say the old girl must be resisting till the end! Terry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 1 hour ago, DMC said: Hi James @71chally, Any of these 747s with RR RB211s? Dennis Yes Dennis, the BA 747s, ie -436s, are unique in being powered by the RB211-524H engine. It will be good news if some of these aircraft (I believe the newer G-BY.. ones) find new owners as being suggested at the moment, but very unusual in that another operator will be using these engines. The earlier BA -236s used the RB211-524D. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Well, in a previous post, you mentioned photos. I wonder if you might be able to get me the diameter of an RB211 cowlopening. A tale order I imagine but it would be most useful. I’ll explain why in another reply. Cheers Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 1 hour ago, DMC said: I wonder if you might be able to get me the diameter of an RB211 cowlopening. If James can't, I have a friend who works for the company breaking up these beauties, can't promise he'd be able but I'll ask if he can get it for you. Keith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 1 hour ago, 71chally said: are unique in being powered by the RB211-524H engine Do you mean that particular variant of the 211 James? Qantas & (I believe) Cathay Pacific also used 211 powered 744's. Keith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 24 minutes ago, keefr22 said: I'll ask if he can get it for you The reason behind my request is I want to have a go at scratch building an RB211. The fan, apparently, is 86.3” and no doubt the cowl diameter must be close to that. Given this measurement I can work out dimensions of the rest of the engine. I realise there are resin kits to buy but I’d like to scratch one myself. So, really, any information would be useful. Cheers Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 (edited) I had forgotten that both of those airlines had a mix of RB211 and CF6 or PW4000 powered -400s, You are correct Keith, they are designated as Gs but I believe they are essentially the same engine. I can probably get access to measure an engine, but actually doing it will be something else. Edited September 10, 2020 by 71chally 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Sorry, wrong thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 10 minutes ago, DMC said: So, really, any information would be useful. I've emailed him to ask Dennis and he's said he'll seewhat he can do K 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Wrong thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, 71chally said: actually doing it will be something else. No problem then, James. Please don’t fall of a ladder or anything. Dennis👀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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