heloman1 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 Neat work with the FLIR turret Bill and the eyebrow/roof glazing brown. Colin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted August 27, 2020 Author Share Posted August 27, 2020 Well bug*er. It was not to be, over optimistic no doubt but I hoped I could work with it. I couldn't. PPP just can't hack it, or I can hack it all day long without getting a fix on the shape. Ideally at this juncture I would be packing a bunch of Euros to Armycast and waiting for one of their lovely cast front sponson sets with the proper round nosed rocket pods in it, ideally. Sadly they have stopped producing Apache bits completely, so it looks like surgery with added Milliput beckons. Oh well, the bottom of the fuselage is totally wrong so... (I get the feeling there is a drift away from opinioning on particular makers these days so...) Oh well. I can use full stop/periods round here I hope. For the AW101I am leaving the FLIR at this point, it'll do. And obliquely... Black paint will be used to blank the blanked sensor windows on the model. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendie Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Bill, your FLIR is a thing of beauty 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 5 hours ago, hendie said: Bill, your FLIR is a thing of beauty I very much concur! Ciao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 6 hours ago, hendie said: Bill, your FLIR is a thing of beauty Ooh Matron! Martian 👽 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 14 hours ago, hendie said: Bill, your FLIR is a thing of beauty Seconded! It even lights up! Lovely stuff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 27 minutes ago, CedB said: It even lights up! I think Martian’s Matron has just reached for the smelling salts. Excellent work, Bill-San 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted August 29, 2020 Author Share Posted August 29, 2020 I wanted the Armycast resin set for the Apache, that is I did want the Armycast set. Too late now. This is said set Not only the side pod mods that the AH-64A needed adapting but also a wealth of underside detail that 'the manufacturer' omitted from the build and the uniquely rounded missile pods of the Westland version Italeri (or a manufacturer of note) gives us a basically flat bellied box with a rounded tail stuck on and other boxes stuck round about Seems to me that Boeing/Westland gave the world a tubular fuselage with additional boxes affixed wherever it suited them. The Armycast set pictures above (from their webpage, guys why stop these?) shows clearly the basic 'tubes and boxes' layout which I now have to try to replicate, damn my OCD. You can see in the above pic that the two halves have been glued together and basic carpentry is underway. A closer look at the battlefield. Hackaboutery begins... I needed to find a way to replicate the curved tube shape, ah gotcha, use a curved tube shape A sacrificial drop tank , which may have begun life as a larger scale than 1/72 Phantom 11 drop tank (I dunno, it was in my box of bombs and things from forty years ago) and which seems ideal to become the curved belly. Now, the cruel hackaboutery The moulded recesses at the front look as if they will 'do' so I am just concentrating on the middle section where the real work lives. Giorgio, when I can be ar... bothered most of the white residual PPP will wipe away with water soaked cotton buds so cleaning up isn't high on my agenda. Plastic on these Italian kits is immensely strong, believe me! And reshaping begins later today, see you then guys. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 Heavy surgery going on - smart idea for the fix, anyway Ciao 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 I have every confidence that you will pull this off because your analysis of the underlying shapes looks (to me at least) spot on; that’s the key - after that it’s just carpentry. But no matter how good your carpentry, it won’t do any good if you’re building the wrong shapes. Watching avidly, even though the Apache has always failed the Ugly Stick test for me - even for a helicopter it is one uggerlymuvva 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted August 29, 2020 Author Share Posted August 29, 2020 Thank you gentlemens all, more carpentry whilst I had a spare half hour (today whilst the weather is dryish I have a couple of exteriorus domesticus tasks to perform so this is snatched time, yes G the sun is shining and no more than 'Simpsons Clouds' in the sky) The internal brace is stupogooed in place. And the underbelly is beginning, there should be a visibly fatter section on much of the fuselage, maybe armour for delicate bits. Apache seems to have very well armoured delicate bits, next task... I think that's the way to do it! 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry1954 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 I think it was @Heather Kay who once commented about watching a Bill build unfold. I can't recall your exact words Heather (and apologies if it wasn't you!), but to me they usually involve scary images of hacked about plastic and other gubins, that can't possibly ever end up as beautifully finished scale replica.................... and they always do! Great work chasing the accuracy of this beast Bill, love every bit of it! Terry 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody37 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 57 minutes ago, Terry1954 said: I think it was @Heather Kay who once commented about watching a Bill build unfold. I can't recall your exact words Heather (and apologies if it wasn't you!), but to me they usually involve scary images of hacked about plastic and other gubins, that can't possibly ever end up as beautifully finished scale replica.................... and they always do! Great work chasing the accuracy of this beast Bill, love every bit of it! Terry I was just thinking exactly the same thing! It's at that scary stage but we all know uncle Bill will have it sorted out towards the end and leave us wondering how on earth it got from this to that 😂 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamden Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 What they said! Nice engineering as always Bill Roger 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted August 29, 2020 Author Share Posted August 29, 2020 "Oh ye of way too much faith." Thanks gang👍 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendie Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 6 hours ago, perdu said: damn my OCD and for that OCD* sir, we are eternally grateful. * or COD to keep Ced's OCD in check 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted August 29, 2020 Author Share Posted August 29, 2020 We digress or is it progress? One of them fings anyroad Bespoke Flak Jacket for new belly sir? 0.010" plasticard over the tanky bit That should do it I will trim that when the TamThinister dries out completely. Tiny update because popping in between real 'jobs' (Not jobbies in case anyone wond...) 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted August 29, 2020 Author Share Posted August 29, 2020 You may think the clamping on the previous update a little 'unprofessional'. Fear not, after my impassioned plea for clamping advice I did go out and buy these and very nice they are I simply happened to have the Berna handy-er The clamps came in that very tough box too, I do commend their obtainationing Apache perched on top to show how current the advice is. Buy some, they are good. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted August 29, 2020 Author Share Posted August 29, 2020 I cannot believe it! It has taken all afternoon to get this to here Well here anyway I am certainly not as dab a hand with white placky as The Extraterrestrial is with the multitalented tentacles but I do watch to learn at the feet, mini flying saucer of the master @Martian I have the time now to decide whether to continue in flat pack white or make addenda in fine greenish Milliput... Laters (probably tomorrowish) 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 Oh wow, that looks a bit good! Ciao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdave22014 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 A shuddering amount of hackery going on as usual with a "Bill Build", which will once again result in a wonderfully exquisite representation of the subject - with no evidence of the horrors that had preceded. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted August 30, 2020 Author Share Posted August 30, 2020 Bigdave dear fellow please cease and desist from shuddering, I suspect Brum is on the same tectonic plate as Ipswich. The more delicate stuff begins... That is if you can relate delicate to 0.040", 0.060" and eighty thou Plasticard. Perspective is definitely not your friend when trying to use an elderly (relatively speaking of course) Olympus 4 megapixel Camedia camera, but I think this is a helpful shot relating to the up-build. Up-build. For this early attempt I expect to use mostly superglue for after-filling as well as in the bunging it all together stage. Here the fore panel begins. This isn't going to actually be tidy in progress but as it happens I know you won't be expecting it to be. Oh well, a busier day beckons and this morning in B74 not even 'Simpsons clouds' decorate the clear blue sky, painting the gate is on the cards. Laters maybe.. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted August 30, 2020 Author Share Posted August 30, 2020 A little more after the paint dried outside Thick polycard gives a similar, malleable plastic to file and sand to shape I am already happier with this than I was with the abominable PPP from the last efforts on the sponsons Hack out thick shapes and pop them onto the side pods ready for malleabling with a sihrsc Soon be a structure to play with OK off for a filing session, laters chaps 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 That looks like a much more solid base to work on Ciao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 10 hours ago, giemme said: ...a much more solid base... Are we still talking about Martian’s Matron? Lovely work again, Bill. I always find symmetry an issue in such matters, but you seem to be nailing it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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