Greg Law Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 I'm having the same issue with mine. Whether to install the canopy before or after painting. So far I have black based and done the pre-shaded mottling. Now I think I will attach the front and main center section canopies and stuff foam in the pilot and gunner areas. This is because I will be having an open cockpit setup. The advantage of doing it this way is you can sort out any bad fits before committing paint. I have found that even if I dry fit a canopy first and get a good fit I end up with an issue once it is glued. Never sure why. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Moff Posted August 16, 2020 Author Share Posted August 16, 2020 filled the areas around the gear doors, the nacelle join etc and it’s close to canopy going on and paint! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Moff Posted August 20, 2020 Author Share Posted August 20, 2020 (edited) got sone primer on ! Edited August 21, 2020 by Tim Moff 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Moff Posted September 23, 2020 Author Share Posted September 23, 2020 Now the other 3 builds are nearing completion I have refocused on this one. done some basic loose marbling with Mr Color RLM 65 and Radome on the underneath and sides where RLM 65 will be. I used extra dark sea grey to highlight the panel lines. inthen build up the Mr Paint RLM 65 in slow layers trying keep some tonal variation. im conscious much of the side areas will end up with RLM02 and 71 mottle... next I will probably tape of the RLM 02 areas and again use some different colours to marble underneath - same again with the RLM71... will probably need to blue tac the fuselage demarcation and put black primer on again first. for this model I think I will masking tape the wing camo demarcations 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Dapple Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Nice paintwork Tim In the photo you can see the correct layout for the squadron badge and the tortoise nose-art, it is reversed on the decal - well actually you can't see the gruppe's 'Bombsight' badge, but it goes just under the forward cockpit windscreen on both sides. Cheers, Stew 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Moff Posted September 25, 2020 Author Share Posted September 25, 2020 Rough mask up to get the RLM02 on. Typically forgot to take a pic of the marbling over the black base...I used Radome Tan, Swedish blue to marble and dark Gunship Gray for the panel lines - I think theres a bit of tonal variation, I slowly build up the RLM02 over the top. Mr Paint is great for this. Used blu tac for the fuselage demarcation, in the Bomb site over England book various airframes in 1st Staffel had various approaches, the actual pics are hard to define but seem to have some fairly straight edges mixed with a bit of overspray etc...I used @Stew Dapple 1/72 build as my camo guideline as the instructions do not seem to match references in the book. Eagle eyed amongst you will notice I removed the canopy - in my hurry to get to paint I did not put the 2 radio parts inside....will do that over night and get it back on before the RLM 71 goes on.... Will need to accurately mask off the RLM02 tomorrow - Mr Paint dries within a couple of hours, but worth letting it harden a bit to prevent paint lift... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Moff Posted September 26, 2020 Author Share Posted September 26, 2020 Cracking on.... As ever I didn't quite get the RLMo2 in all the correct places - so have masked any way ready for RLM71.....I will then complete the RLM02! Used RLM02 to loosely marble and a Light earth for the panel lines RLM71 in slow light layers.... one wing done Both wings - on reflection I made have made that 1 pass too many... Unmask and address the RLM02 start the mottle on the sides using both colours.... blend it all back with a bit of RLM65 mist cote.... seems ok...the fluro lights do not really help show the colours and variations etc.... In theory does not need gloss as Mr Paint leaves a smooth finish, but will stick some X22/MLT over the top.... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Moff Posted September 26, 2020 Author Share Posted September 26, 2020 Interesting to contrast with the Bf109-E4/B from the 3rd Staffel painted with Mr Color - shades are pretty similar to to Mr Paint on the BF110D 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Fantastic job on the splinter cam Tim. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Dapple Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Nice job on the mottling too; you've got a knack for it Cheers, Stew 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Moff Posted September 27, 2020 Author Share Posted September 27, 2020 Gloss clear cote on, mix of Tamiya X22 and Mr Levelling Thinners - I always spray a mist cote of pure MLT over the top of the wet clear - seems to level well and harden. decals next - @Stew Dapple can you remember if they behaved ok ? need to look at the periphery’s etc now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Dapple Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Tim Moff said: @Stew Dapple can you remember if they behaved ok ? To be honest mate I don't remember, but that might be a positive; if they'd been awful I probably would remember Cheers, Stew 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Moff Posted September 28, 2020 Author Share Posted September 28, 2020 21 hours ago, Stew Dapple said: To be honest mate I don't remember, but that might be a positive; if they'd been awful I probably would remember Cheers, Stew So I found out today.... Crosses and letters disintegrated... Had a fight and rescued some items, but the swastikas are not great either - had to use some spares from my sheet for the Eduard Bf109, but the lower wing crosses are too small, no letters and 1 of the bombsight decals split up... I am buying another set in the hope I just got a bad set....depending on some testing I may remove some of my S9 + HH lettering etc which I bodged as best I can... Not sure whether to use Mr Softer on the decals or is that too risky!! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Dapple Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Aw Tim, that's harsh mate That certainly didn't happen with mine, or I'd still be seething about it now. All the same, I'd keep the code letters, you've made a good save on them. When you get the new set, maybe try a little decal softener on one you won't be using to make sure it won't melt it? Cheers, Stew 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Good save Tim, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Moff Posted October 15, 2020 Author Share Posted October 15, 2020 So the second set of decals were the same....I managed to get the unit emblem on the Stbd sid, the H's underneath that are surgically re-joined and some of the stencils etc... Sealed in with good old Tamiya X22 Some Tamiya Panel line accent - I removed the remaining bit on the Port wing! Want to get some over and under wing exhaust effect using inks next, before getting the Dullcote out....hopefully edging close to the line... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Dapple Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 I'm sorry to hear the second set of decals was pants as well. Might give Authentic Decals a miss in future! Good recovery though and it looks as if you've got all the necessaries covered Cheers, Stew 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Moff Posted October 24, 2020 Author Share Posted October 24, 2020 (edited) Bit of weathering, exhausts on and dullcote done. canopy on - week to go to get the last bits on, antenna wire etc.. Edited October 24, 2020 by Tim Moff 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Dapple Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Excellent work Tim, are you displaying it on a stand? Cheers, Stew 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Moff Posted October 26, 2020 Author Share Posted October 26, 2020 12 hours ago, Stew Dapple said: Excellent work Tim, are you displaying it on a stand? Cheers, Stew It will have to go on the garage rafters with the rest - must sort out some type of display cabinet.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Moff Posted October 26, 2020 Author Share Posted October 26, 2020 Final assembly ongoing.... Just the underwing bits and wire antenna to finish off. Used Micro Klear for the wing light. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Moff Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 some interesting and useful reference pics and an article on S9 +CK of 210 Erprobungsgruppe 210 https://friendsofim.com/2020/06/02/german-destroyer/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Moff Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 Finished.... Thanks for all the help along the way, enjoyed this GB and am no longer scared of Luftwaffe mottling or wire antennas! Will stick 5 pics in the gallery. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 A super job on that Tim, one I'm keen to emulate in 1/72. I've found this build very inspiring. Steve. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Dapple Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Cracking job Tim, she turned out a beauty Look forward to the Gallery pics too, Cheers, Stew 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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