Blimpyboy Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 (edited) F2H releasing a BOAR or Mk.7: http://tailspintopics.blogspot.com/2009/11/nuclear-banshees.html?m=1 Edited July 2, 2020 by Blimpyboy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Superb article, never fails to impress me the lengths gone to make things work! An article like that on every nuclear capable aircraft would be superb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blimpyboy Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 I know - and I’m starting to agree that it will be easier and cheaper to make aircraft that don’t carry nukes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailspin Turtle Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 http://tailspintopics.blogspot.com/2020/06/fj-4-and-fj-4b-stores-pylons.html https://tailspintopics.blogspot.com/2009/11/nuclear-banshees.html https://tailspintopics.blogspot.com/2020/04/lockheed-p2v-3-neptune.html https://thanlont.blogspot.com/2020/03/us-navy-1950s-light-attack-jet-programs.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfighter Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 5 hours ago, exdraken said: US, or Britsh bombs? 2 live Sparrows... interesting! So no Sidewinders to fight your way out They were U S weapons, and were guarded by armed USAF and RAF police. I think the weapons were either B57 or B43 ( Not sure, it WAS a long time ago ) We very rarely carried Sidewinders, as the main task was nuclear strike or ground attack. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChocolateCrisps Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 19 hours ago, Marcin Kaminski said: Trailed but not cleared/deployed SupermarineScimitar: 1 WE 177A on Inner wing Port station? While the Scimitar wasn't cleared for We 177, it was for Red Beard - as far as I know, it was with the Scimitar + Red Beard combination that the RN first became a nuclear power. I can only find two images of the set up, and both show the bomb on the port inner pylon, so I'd assume that was the standard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f111guru Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 12 hours ago, e8n2 said: While the F-4 could conceivably carry three, I only ever saw them on the centerline, and only on alert aircraft. Otherwise it would be shapes during exercises and again, only on the centerline. Later, Dave My first duty station was with the 405th TFW 405th MMS Clark AFB Philippines. When the conflict in SEA was winding down we were sent back to Clark. Late spring or early summer our load crew was to help a team from the states. Not sure if they were from McD or someplace else. We installed 2 inboard pylon extensions, reinstalled the MAU-12 bomb racks and functional tested the pylons. Performed a GWM-4 test, then the team measured the height from the bottom of the MAU-12 to the ground. After a while B-43 practice munitions were delivered with the bottom fins removed. After being loaded the team measured again the height from the bottom of the fins to the ground. This went on for a few days then aircrews showed up for taxi tests. I don't recall any flying with these on the pylon. Just regular and high speed taxi tests. I left Clark in September. Went to RAF Lakenheath in January 1977 to bring in the F-111F's and asked the Phantom guys if they were loading the B-43 ion the inboard pylons. I got laughed at because they thought I was unaware the munitions length. I explained what went on at Clark and one of the guys says he remembered seeing a message on it. It never became part of the Phantoms load configuration. I always thought it was a Broke Arrow waiting to happen. Just my brain going into overdrive on memories from way back when. Ron VanDerwarker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anatol Pigwa Posted July 2, 2020 Author Share Posted July 2, 2020 Part 4: China H-6K (TU-16 license) : internal bomb bay? India Mirage 2000H 1x Freefall bomb on centerline station SEPECAT Jaguar 1x Freefall bomb on centerline station Israel: F_15 (see USA) F-16 (see USA) Pakistan F-16 1xbomb on centerline(?) station Mirage III/V 1xbomb on centerline(?) station South Africa Possible carrier Aircraft (not confirmed) Canberra (see UK) Buccaneer (see UK) likely only 1 bomb in bomb bay due to small number of bombs produced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anatol Pigwa Posted July 2, 2020 Author Share Posted July 2, 2020 A couple of questions: France: Where would the AN.52 be carried on the Mirage III and Super Etendard, Centerline, or wing station. Germany; Did the German F-4 carry nuclear weapons? Which station are nuclear weapons mounted on on the Tornado IDS? UK Was the Gloster Javelin Nuclear capable? USA: Did/do any of these aircraft have nuclear capability: A-10, F-5, F-8, F-22 Where and how many special weapons are carried by the F-15A/C/E, The SuperHornet and the F-35. Why are there no standoff tactical nukes in the western arsenals apart from the french ASMP/ASMP-A? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 (edited) Here is an early F-5 with a Mk43: Jari Edited July 2, 2020 by Finn 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stever219 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Marcin Kaminski said: Was the Gloster Javelin Nuclear capable? No. The Javelin was designed purely as an interceptor to take out Warsaw Pact aircraft that were carrying nuclear weapons before they were within weapons launch distance of the UK. The UK never developed air-to-air weapons with nuclear warheads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglierating Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Oi Blimpy specialist lovely phot of the Wasp and its diagonally mounted bucket of sunshine ....complete with lunaberg lens fitted .. which F35 now has fitted ...stealthy not with the lens deployed old ideas British too ...i think . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blimpyboy Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 (edited) 50 minutes ago, junglierating said: lovely phot of the Wasp and its diagonally mounted bucket of sunshine I can just imagine the crew gunning it after release, sweating it out of the blast hazard area! ”Gogogogogo, fasterfasterfaster!!!” Edited July 2, 2020 by Blimpyboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blimpyboy Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 (edited) Here’s a French article about their nukes: https://www.pressreader.com/france/le-fana-de-l-aviation/20170801/281543700963235 and the obligatory pictures: https://www.airliners.net/photo/France-Navy/Dassault-Super-Etendard/1948932/L (hopefully, this is just the link) And, being French, there is a stylish uniform patch to go with the end of the world as we know it... http://rafale92.e-monsite.com/album/flottilles/12-f/12-f-rafale/force-aeronavale-nucleaire.html Edited July 2, 2020 by Blimpyboy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 2 hours ago, Marcin Kaminski said: A couple of questions: France: Where would the AN.52 be carried on the Mirage III and Super Etendard, Centerline, or wing station. Centreline on those, as well as on the French Jaguar A: https://images.app.goo.gl/wLPVmiFr2RgrGak4A https://images.app.goo.gl/wLPVmiFr2RgrGak4A Cheers, Andre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blimpyboy Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 And, if not already seen: https://www.key.aero/forum/modern-military-aviation/37628-pictures-of-current-tactical-nuclear-airborne-devices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jure Miljevic Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Add Poland to the list. This had been posted earlier, but there is no harm in repeating it: there is a photo of a Polish Su-7 BKL with a BDZ-56 FN pylon in Первый сверхзвуковой истребитель-бомбардировщик Су-7Б book. Apparently Edward Gierek had been pushing for Poland being given its own (tactical) nuclear arsenal. Also, I suspect the rest of Warsaw pact countries would also gain access to nuclear weapons in case of emergency. Cheers Jure 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 There is this, the QH-50 but it didn't go operational with the Mk57 as rules for storage and security for nukes were such that the ships the QH-50 were to operate from would have required extensive, and expensive mods. Jari 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAGATIGER Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Hi there Look here I just found at the web https://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/russia/rn-28.htm 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyJammedKenny! Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 "I'd like to get me one of them Doomsday Devices!" - George C. Scott, Dr. Strangelove Excellent stuff on the RN28. Hopefully someone will do a resin kit in 1/72? I know A-Model has done the "Tsar Bomba," but this is hardly satisfies the needs of the Soviet tac nuke crowd. Is there any ground truth to one account I read that some WP aircraft were painted in anti-flash white, with the national insignia minimized? Supposedly, some Polish Air Force IL-28s were given this treatment. Given that the photos of nuke-carrying MiG-21s indicate no special paint treatment, this seems unlikely to me, but it is fun to contemplate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vultures1 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 4 hours ago, TheyJammedKenny! said: Excellent stuff on the RN28. Hopefully someone will do a resin kit in 1/72? Doesn't the Modelsvit Su-7 contain a RN28? I'll have to check ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAGATIGER Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 8 hours ago, Vultures1 said: Doesn't the Modelsvit Su-7 contain a RN28? I'll have to check ... Hi there The Russian tatical nuclear bomb is included on the Modelsvit Su-7 in 1/72 scale at least on my kit Best modeling Armando Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 (edited) There is aftermarket RN28 in 48 & 72: Jari Edited July 4, 2020 by Finn 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 On 02/07/2020 at 22:14, Blimpyboy said: I can just imagine the crew gunning it after release, sweating it out of the blast hazard area! ”Gogogogogo, fasterfasterfaster!!!” Pilot only as was not able to carry the observer and the weapon. Also pretty sure they knew it would be a one way trip as the Wasp was not fast enough to escape the blast area! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blimpyboy Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Julien said: Pilot only Oh dear. I can just picture some poor D-cat pilot being given the order "So, what are you doing later this afternoon?" Edited July 4, 2020 by Blimpyboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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