Black Knight 6,235 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-53249645 No politics please. No hot discussion on the whys or wherefores or the rights I'm just passing on the news story I spotted 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Retired Bob 3,905 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 I thought they had dropped the symbol at the end of WW2 when the aircraft markings changed to a blue and white roundel. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
luis pacheco 628 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 I bought last year 2 Link to post Share on other sites
junglierating 1,218 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Wow who knew Link to post Share on other sites
Black Knight 6,235 Posted July 1, 2020 Author Share Posted July 1, 2020 35 minutes ago, Retired Bob said: I thought they had dropped the symbol at the end of WW2 when the aircraft markings changed to a blue and white roundel. On aircraft, yes but not on the badge on their uniform etc 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Blimpyboy 675 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 (edited) Heh! The lines between history, tradition, coincidence and what’s inappropriate can be very fine ones! I seem to recall quite a few unit patches from the 1960s to the 1980s that would raise eyebrows today! Edited July 2, 2020 by Blimpyboy 2 Link to post Share on other sites
luis pacheco 628 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Ilmavoimat Museum https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100010346317231&sk=media_set&set=a.929829420705260&type=3 Link to post Share on other sites
Blimpyboy 675 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 (edited) Seriously off topic, but here goes... As far as I can recall, there’s always been a bit of a friendly bunfight between Australia and South Africa as to which country has the second oldest Air Force (both dating from 1920/1921, I believe). What’s the go with Finland, as theirs seems to have been formed in 1918? Edited July 1, 2020 by Blimpyboy Link to post Share on other sites
Black Knight 6,235 Posted July 1, 2020 Author Share Posted July 1, 2020 The RAF is the world's oldest independent Air Force All the others are just Johnnie-come-latelies 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Blimpyboy 675 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 17 minutes ago, Black Knight said: The RAF is the world's oldest independent Air Force All the others are just Johnnie-come-latelies Yeah! I do like watching the Australia/South Africa bunfight - aren't they just fighting over who gets to be the first loser? 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
exdraken 10,007 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Back on topic, or close at least... German Luftwaffe Geschwader 74 was officially named "Mölders" until very recently... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Retired Bob 3,905 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 8 hours ago, exdraken said: German Luftwaffe Geschwader 74 was officially named "Mölders" until very recently... Have they dropped that title as well? Link to post Share on other sites
exdraken 10,007 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Retired Bob said: Have they dropped that title as well? yes, for several years now https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taktisches_Luftwaffengeschwader_74 seems they kept the WWI names Richthofen , Immelman and Boelke not sure about Steinhoff though... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Retired Bob 3,905 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, exdraken said: for several years now Is Richthofen "safe" being WW1 or is that considered too risky to upset the snowflakes? oop's missed the bottom part of your post. Edited July 2, 2020 by Retired Bob apology Link to post Share on other sites
GMK 928 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 On 7/2/2020 at 9:08 AM, Blimpyboy said: Yeah! I do like watching the Australia/South Africa bunfight - aren't they just fighting over who gets to be the first loser? But the RAAF has the more recent air-to-air kill than the RAF.... Link to post Share on other sites
Blimpyboy 675 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 (edited) 41 minutes ago, GMK said: But the RAAF has the more recent air-to-air kill than the RAF.... Doesn’t this count? https://fighterjetsworld.com/weekly-article/when-raf-phantom-shot-down-a-raf-jaguar/2540/ And surely these fellers score extra points for hitting theirs with a JP233! I s’pose the RAAF did manage to kill a Ute/truck with an AIM-7 CATM... https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/australian-air-force-jet-drops-dummy-missile-on-car-711406.html?amp and https://www.abc.net.au/pm/stories/s159695.htm British Phantom vs Jaguar notwithstanding, the SAAF has also shot down some real aircraft - Hinds, Hips and Fishbeds: http://www.warinangola.com/Default.aspx?tabid=1129 and Edited July 3, 2020 by Blimpyboy 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Agent K 228 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 17 hours ago, Retired Bob said: Is Richthofen "safe" being WW1 or is that considered too risky to upset the snowflakes? oop's missed the bottom part of your post. Snowflakes??? Link to post Share on other sites
Blimpyboy 675 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Agent K said: Snowflakes??? Sssshhh! You're gonna get us all in trouble... Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman 5,217 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 (edited) On 7/1/2020 at 11:50 PM, Black Knight said: The RAF is the world's oldest independent Air Force In 2012, I attended the 100th Anniversary celebtrations at Zhukovsky in Moscow....... http://www.flankers-site.co.uk/moscow_2012.html https://www.rbth.com/articles/2012/08/13/100_years_in_the_sky_centenary_of_russian_air_force_16987 Discuss......... Ken (Dons tin helmet) Edited July 3, 2020 by Flankerman Link to post Share on other sites
Blimpyboy 675 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 13 minutes ago, Flankerman said: Ken (Dons tin helmet) Nice one Link to post Share on other sites
GMK 928 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 5 hours ago, Blimpyboy said: Doesn’t this count? https://fighterjetsworld.com/weekly-article/when-raf-phantom-shot-down-a-raf-jaguar/2540/ And surely these fellers score extra points for hitting theirs with a JP233! I s’pose the RAAF did manage to kill a Ute/truck with an AIM-7 CATM... https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/australian-air-force-jet-drops-dummy-missile-on-car-711406.html?amp and https://www.abc.net.au/pm/stories/s159695.htm British Phantom vs Jaguar notwithstanding, the SAAF has also shot down some real aircraft - Hinds, Hips and Fishbeds: http://www.warinangola.com/Default.aspx?tabid=1129 and I was living at the RAAF Darwin Mess at the time of the CATM debacle. One of the guys had a commemorative cake made - complete with (scale) CATM through it - to mark the end of Pitch Black. It was, as they say, too soon. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
John Masters 14,880 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 On 7/2/2020 at 12:01 AM, luis pacheco said: I bought last year I want that mug... Link to post Share on other sites
luis pacheco 628 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 1 hour ago, John Masters said: I want that mug... Try to contact the Ilmavoimat museum. www.ilmavoimamuseo.fi Maybe they can send by postal service. The museum may close soon due to the inquisition of the politically correct. Link to post Share on other sites
John Masters 14,880 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Thanks. The email address they have has been truncated... Link to post Share on other sites
luis pacheco 628 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Try by Facebook. Link to post Share on other sites
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