Finnish Air Force Command drops swastika symbol

[Black Knight 5,610]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-53249645

 

No politics please.

No hot discussion on the whys or wherefores or the rights

I'm just passing on the news story I spotted

[Retired Bob 2,344]

I thought they had dropped the symbol at the end of WW2 when the aircraft markings changed to a blue and white roundel.

[luis pacheco 580]

I bought last year

 

[junglierating 984]

Wow who knew

[Black Knight 5,610]

35 minutes ago, Retired Bob said:

I thought they had dropped the symbol at the end of WW2 when the aircraft markings changed to a blue and white roundel.

On aircraft, yes but not on the badge on their uniform etc

[Blimpyboy 321]

Heh!

The lines between history, tradition, coincidence and what’s inappropriate can be very fine ones!

 

 I seem to recall quite a few unit patches from the 1960s to the 1980s that would raise eyebrows today!

Edited July 2 by Blimpyboy

[luis pacheco 580]

Ilmavoimat Museum

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100010346317231&sk=media_set&set=a.929829420705260&type=3

[Blimpyboy 321]

Seriously off topic, but here goes...

 

As far as I can recall, there’s always been a bit of a friendly bunfight between Australia and South Africa as to which country has the second oldest Air Force (both dating from 1920/1921, I believe).

What’s the go with Finland, as theirs seems to have been formed in 1918?

 

 

Edited July 1 by Blimpyboy

[Black Knight 5,610]

The RAF is the world's oldest independent Air Force

All the others are just Johnnie-come-latelies    

[Blimpyboy 321]

17 minutes ago, Black Knight said:

The RAF is the world's oldest independent Air Force

All the others are just Johnnie-come-latelies

 

Yeah!

I do like watching the Australia/South Africa bunfight - aren't they just fighting over who gets to be the first loser?

[exdraken 8,464]

Back on topic, or close at least...

German Luftwaffe Geschwader 74 was officially named "Mölders" until very recently...

[Retired Bob 2,344]

8 hours ago, exdraken said:

German Luftwaffe Geschwader 74 was officially named "Mölders" until very recently...

Have they dropped that title as well?  

[exdraken 8,464]

1 hour ago, Retired Bob said:

Have they dropped that title as well?  

yes,

for several years now

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taktisches_Luftwaffengeschwader_74

seems they kept the WWI names Richthofen , Immelman and Boelke

 

not sure about Steinhoff though...

 

[Retired Bob 2,344]

19 minutes ago, exdraken said:

for several years now

Is Richthofen "safe" being WW1 or is that considered too risky to upset the snowflakes?

 

oop's missed the bottom part of your post.

Edited July 2 by Retired Bob
apology

[GMK 664]

On 7/2/2020 at 9:08 AM, Blimpyboy said:

 

Yeah!

I do like watching the Australia/South Africa bunfight - aren't they just fighting over who gets to be the first loser?

But the RAAF has the more recent air-to-air kill than the RAF....

[Blimpyboy 321]

41 minutes ago, GMK said:

But the RAAF has the more recent air-to-air kill than the RAF....

 

Doesn’t this count?

https://fighterjetsworld.com/weekly-article/when-raf-phantom-shot-down-a-raf-jaguar/2540/

 

 

 

And surely these fellers score extra points for hitting theirs with a JP233!

 

 

 

I s’pose the RAAF did manage to kill a Ute/truck with an AIM-7 CATM...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/australian-air-force-jet-drops-dummy-missile-on-car-711406.html?amp

and

https://www.abc.net.au/pm/stories/s159695.htm

 

 

 

 

British Phantom vs Jaguar notwithstanding, the SAAF has also shot down some real aircraft - Hinds, Hips and Fishbeds:

http://www.warinangola.com/Default.aspx?tabid=1129

and

 

Edited July 3 by Blimpyboy

[Agent K 204]

17 hours ago, Retired Bob said:

Is Richthofen "safe" being WW1 or is that considered too risky to upset the snowflakes?

 

oop's missed the bottom part of your post.

Snowflakes???

[Blimpyboy 321]

1 hour ago, Agent K said:

Snowflakes???

 

Sssshhh!

You're gonna get us all in trouble...

[Flankerman 5,091]

On 7/1/2020 at 11:50 PM, Black Knight said:

The RAF is the world's oldest independent Air Force

 

In 2012, I attended the 100th Anniversary celebtrations at Zhukovsky in Moscow....... http://www.flankers-site.co.uk/moscow_2012.html

 

https://www.rbth.com/articles/2012/08/13/100_years_in_the_sky_centenary_of_russian_air_force_16987

 

Discuss.........

 

Ken (Dons tin helmet)

Edited July 3 by Flankerman

[Blimpyboy 321]

13 minutes ago, Flankerman said:

Ken (Dons tin helmet)

Nice one 

 

 

[GMK 664]

5 hours ago, Blimpyboy said:

 

Doesn’t this count?

https://fighterjetsworld.com/weekly-article/when-raf-phantom-shot-down-a-raf-jaguar/2540/

 

 

 

And surely these fellers score extra points for hitting theirs with a JP233!

 

 

 

I s’pose the RAAF did manage to kill a Ute/truck with an AIM-7 CATM...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/australian-air-force-jet-drops-dummy-missile-on-car-711406.html?amp

and

https://www.abc.net.au/pm/stories/s159695.htm

 

 

 

 

British Phantom vs Jaguar notwithstanding, the SAAF has also shot down some real aircraft - Hinds, Hips and Fishbeds:

http://www.warinangola.com/Default.aspx?tabid=1129

and

 

I was living at the RAAF Darwin Mess at the time of the CATM debacle. One of the guys had a commemorative cake made - complete with (scale) CATM through it - to mark the end of Pitch Black. It was, as they say, too soon. 

[John Masters 12,160]

On 7/2/2020 at 12:01 AM, luis pacheco said:

I bought last year

I want that mug...

[luis pacheco 580]

1 hour ago, John Masters said:

I want that mug...

Try to contact the Ilmavoimat museum.

 

www.ilmavoimamuseo.fi

 

Maybe they can send by postal service.

 

The museum may close soon due to the inquisition of the politically correct.

[John Masters 12,160]

Thanks.  The email address they have has been truncated...

 

 

[luis pacheco 580]

Try by Facebook.