Hurricane Trio - Arma and Airfix 1/72

[CedB]

7 hours ago, Heather Kay said:

S'easy. It’s a magical silver, mined by the Dwarfs in Tolkien's fantasy world. When made into armour and mail coats it confers immunity against many sharp weapons. Frodo famously wears a jerkin made of Mithras chain mail that saves his his life early in the first book.

 

Sorry. I was quite the Lord of The Rings nut back in the day. 

 Me too. In fact, I may watch the movies again…

 

7 hours ago, keefr22 said:

 

No comment....

 

 

Ouch indeed - get well soon thumb! 

 

Use some Tamiya tape on that plaster Ced, it'll stick much better!

 

K

Thanks Keith - good tip!

 

7 hours ago, keefr22 said:

 

Very much doubt it. How do you define 'accurate paint colour'...??!! 

 

K

6 hours ago, Marklo said:

J

Me too. But just imagine trying to get a colour swatch, even in middle earth Mithril was pretty rare.

 

Soapbox out. Colour is a combination of the object the lighting and the observer ‘S perception( psychometric testing anybody) So allow for age, weathering, lighting conditions and basically there is no such thing  Soapbox back.

5 hours ago, keefr22 said:

Quite.

 

K

Good points both - I'll remember your explanation Mark next time someone queries a finish of mine!  

 

5 hours ago, roginoz said:

Mithril Silver - perhaps @CedB should  paint his thumb with it before undressing anymore chairs............

Just a thought......!

Now there's an idea! Mithril Silver modelling gloves - nice and light and scalpel proof!  

 

5 hours ago, AdrianMF said:

... or at least keep the superglue handy ...

Always Adrian, always, but this one bled too much and was sort of 'flappy' so plastering it down was better  

 

3 hours ago, Marklo said:

Well that is what it was developed for.

Indeed! I wonder if the medical version works on PE?  

 

2 hours ago, Corsairfoxfouruncle said:

True I guess I am a bit of a freak being medically retired (disabled), I have all day to research and build. If you ever need help researching im always willing to help. Just tag me using the @ symbol or P/M me to let me know. If i cant find the answers I will at best try to point you in the best direction I think will help you. 

Dennis as Keith says that's very kind of you  

As a fellow retiree (old) it's nice to have the time eh?

 

Nice talk about the dogs too chaps - Molly is a continual source of amusement and affection, bless her 🐾

 

2 minutes ago, Brandy said:

Great! Not only do I somehow manage to miss a Ced thread for an entire 4 pages, but when I do find it, he stabs himself!

I'm going for a beer, call me when normality resumes.....

 

Ian

Hi Ian  

Going for a beer eh? Do you really expect us to come and get you? As for normality returning, very unlikely in this thread…  

 

 

I/P transfers on.

Airfix:

 

 

…and first transfer on for the PE and 'kit' versions:

 

 

 

The second one in the right hand pic is for the non-PE version.

 

In other news the garden furniture's assembled.

I found out that there's a folded end on the tape that, if you pull it, allows you unwrap the paper cover on the arms.

There's a similar end on the bubblewrap around the legs and that too let's you unwrap with ease.

Inscrutable.

 

Pity I didn't find it until chair six of eight…

[Corsairfoxfouruncle]

6 minutes ago, CedB said:

3 hours ago, Corsairfoxfouruncle said:

 

Dennis as Keith says that's very kind of you  

As a fellow retiree (old) it's nice to have the time eh?

 

Not a problem I enjoy research, SWMBO jokingly calls it looking at airplane porn. Well its my way of trying to pay forward help that Ive received over the years both here and other places. Yes it is but can become a bit mind numbing at times. 

[RichieW]

Good progress Ced, glad you still have the correct number of thumbs too.

[giemme]

Ced, you're only allowed to slice your thumbs when modelling, it's in the rules, you know...

 

Nice progress anyway

 

Ciao 

[The Spadgent]

Ouch. What is it with thumbs and us modellers eh. Hope it heals up.

 

great progress x 3

 

Jont.

[TheBaron]

Distressed at tidings of you getting all Hannibal on the opposable Ced but glad to see it hasn't affected progress on the Hurricanos.

 

Hope you get some sun to enjoy the new furniture!

 

 

[CedB]

12 hours ago, Corsairfoxfouruncle said:

Not a problem I enjoy research, SWMBO jokingly calls it looking at airplane porn. Well its my way of trying to pay forward help that Ive received over the years both here and other places. Yes it is but can become a bit mind numbing at times. 

Thanks Dennis, very kind of you  

12 hours ago, RichieW said:

Good progress Ced, glad you still have the correct number of thumbs too.

Thanks Richie

Plaster off this morning and looking good…

10 hours ago, giemme said:

Ced, you're only allowed to slice your thumbs when modelling, it's in the rules, you know...

 

Nice progress anyway

 

Ciao 

Thanks Giorgio - we should get T-shirts!  

9 hours ago, The Spadgent said:

Ouch. What is it with thumbs and us modellers eh. Hope it heals up.

 

great progress x 3

 

Jont.

Thanks Jont  Concentrating on the job in hand, not the hand in the job!

9 hours ago, TheBaron said:

Distressed at tidings of you getting all Hannibal on the opposable Ced but glad to see it hasn't affected progress on the Hurricanos.

 

Hope you get some sun to enjoy the new furniture!

 

 

Thanks Tony  We're hoping for sun too - or at least a break from the showers…

Mrs B did buy an 'Event Shelter' so I think we're covered for Sunday (see what I did there?)

 

 

Arma I/Ps now done:

 

 

 

PE 'Expert' version at the top.

Nice eh?

 

I need to touch in some black but now ready for assembly!

[keefr22]

30 minutes ago, CedB said:

PE 'Expert' version at the top

 

TBF they're both very nice!

 

K

[giemme]

1 hour ago, keefr22 said:

 

TBF they're both very nice!

 

K

Agreed, both very effective  

Ciao

[CedB]

3 hours ago, keefr22 said:

TBF they're both very nice!

 

K

1 hour ago, giemme said:

Agreed, both very effective  

Ciao

Thanks Keith and Giorgio - I agree!  

(The two transfer version is prettier though eh?)

 

Just had a look at the Arma site to see what's the best way to buy.

They have over-trees available today for €9, but only 'available in a set' with the BoB Limited Edition pre-order (€14.50) for €21.15. Bargain!

Anyway, I… wait, where's everyone gone??!!

 

Oh, you're back. How many did you order?

I can't see the 'kit' on the site at the moment so there's no point in me carrying on - just buy what you need from the amazing selection!

 

 

Right, assembly.

Airfix:

 

 

 

Easy. You can't see anything inside eh?

Just as well 'cos my frame didn't join up:

 

 

Bit short shot? Not my cutting - the gates are on the side. Oh well, no one's going to see it.

 

Arma Expert seat:

 

 

Don't forget to paint the seat adjuster before you stick it on. Ask me how I know.

 

Compass and support:

 

 

I thought I'd stopped tiny 🙄

 

White pencil on the compass:

 

 

…and frame where you need to bend the sides into an 'L' then together:

 

 

Tip - paint both sides on the fret

 

It's on:

 

 

I know it's upside down but, after fiddling to get the support onto the panel there's NO WAY I'm going to move it until the glue's dry.

 

The postie delivered these this morning:

 

 

HUGE thanks to @Troy Smith - the 'spare' couple have been popped into the other Hurricane boxes in my stash.

Nice.

[keefr22]

9 minutes ago, CedB said:

They have over-trees available today for €9, but only 'available in a set' with the BoB Limited Edition pre-order (€14.50) for €21.15. Bargain!

 

Did you check the postage though? I was tempted by a couple of Eduard Tempest overtrees to use up some of the decals in my profipack kit, but the postage was just about as much as the trees themselves - and put the price about the same as a full kit from Hannants! I'm pleased in a way as I still haven't started the profipack kit that I bought when it was first released, so gawd only knows when I thought I'd get round to the overtrees!

 

Nice tiny work again Ced!

 

K

[Jur]

Pardon my ignorance, but what are overtrees?

[2996 Victor]

I was just about to ask the same question.....🤔

[Biggles87]

Overtrees are just the plastic parts of a kit, no etch or decals, at about half the price of the complete kit. A good idea if you have lots of spare decals and other bits  for a particular type, but as mentioned above be aware of the postage costs.

 

Sorry to hijack you Ced.

 

John

[The Spadgent]

Rocketing along. Looking great too. Making me yearn for a different model. If only I were more @corsaircorp 🥳

 

Johnny

[TheBaron]

Your work on IPs continues to astound Ced. Brilliant.

[corsaircorp]

23 minutes ago, The Spadgent said:

Rocketing along. Looking great too. Making me yearn for a different model. If only I were more @corsaircorp 🥳

 

Johnny

Everyone to be a bit of CC ???

Heeeeelp !!!

CC

[alt-92]

2 hours ago, keefr22 said:

Did you check the postage though?

Eduard

Ah.

There's a difference, Arma's P&P costs are very much within reason* and pretty standard. 

Eduard's P&P however increases with every item added even if it is transfers or PE. And listed ex VAT.

 

*they also package rather cleverly - if you look closely at the sprues themselves you'll see they are rather compact but also stackable.

So they can put the extra sprue set in the same box which is already half the size of an Eduard box.

Smart.

[giemme]

3 hours ago, CedB said:

(The two transfer version is prettier though eh?)

OK, I'll give you that  

 

Good progress all round  And bravo to @Troy Smith for sending you the parts you needed 👍

 

Ciao

[CedB]

2 hours ago, keefr22 said:

Did you check the postage though? I was tempted by a couple of Eduard Tempest overtrees to use up some of the decals in my profipack kit, but the postage was just about as much as the trees themselves - and put the price about the same as a full kit from Hannants! I'm pleased in a way as I still haven't started the profipack kit that I bought when it was first released, so gawd only knows when I thought I'd get round to the overtrees!

 

Nice tiny work again Ced!

 

K

Ah, no Keith I didn't, sorry - I don't remember the delivery being expensive and I've just checked - €6.75 to ship my two kits (costing €25.58).

Not too bad though eh?  

 

2 hours ago, Jur said:

Pardon my ignorance, but what are overtrees?

1 hour ago, 2996 Victor said:

I was just about to ask the same question.....🤔

1 hour ago, Biggles87 said:

Overtrees are just the plastic parts of a kit, no etch or decals, at about half the price of the complete kit. A good idea if you have lots of spare decals and other bits  for a particular type, but as mentioned above be aware of the postage costs.

 

Sorry to hijack you Ced.

 

John

Jur and Mark please don't worry about any question - it's how I learnt!

As John says (thanks John) Overtrees (not overtures, blasted spell check) are great if you have the transfers and can download the instruction sheet.

I think they're called that because they over produced a planned batch. Maybe.

 

1 hour ago, The Spadgent said:

Rocketing along. Looking great too. Making me yearn for a different model. If only I were more @corsaircorp 🥳

 

Johnny

1 hour ago, corsaircorp said:

[snip video]

Everyone to be a bit of CC ???

Heeeeelp !!!

CC

Thanks Johnny

CC what the heck is that video? Dinosaurs? Or is one of the characters called CC?  

 

1 hour ago, TheBaron said:

Your work on IPs continues to astound Ced. Brilliant.

Thanks Tony - to be honest I'm just putting the bits together…  

 

3 minutes ago, alt-92 said:

Ah.

There's a difference, Arma's P&P costs are very much within reason and pretty standard. 

Eduard's P&P however increases with every item added even if it is transfers or PE. And listed ex VAT.

 

Thanks alt - one to be watched!  

 

 

Plaster off:

 

 

Can you see the hook shaped red patch? Nasty. Still amazed at how our bodies repair themselves…

 

Arma Expert gets its port side wall:

 

 

Lovely fit with the little nick out of the bottom left hand corner. 

It doesn't fit against the plastic though:

 

 

Is it supposed to be like that?

Here's the step for this side:

 

 

I've built complete models with less parts than that.

Probably.

Nice details though.

I got this far:

 

 

…but then needed a rest.

More later.

[CedB]

2 minutes ago, giemme said:

OK, I'll give you that  

 

Good progress all round  And bravo to @Troy Smith for sanding you the parts you needed 👍

 

Ciao

Thanks Giorgio and sorry, crashed your post! 

[alt-92]

3 minutes ago, CedB said:

As John says (thanks John) Overtrees (not overtures, blasted spell check) are great if you have the transfers and can download the instruction sheet.

I think they're called that because they over produced a planned batch. Maybe.

mmm.... I don't think it's overproduction - rather smart salesmanship.

They know they have a good kit, and the boxed versions ship with multiple options in decals (especially the Expert sets)

So they can still sell their runs, but don't need to do 100% of the boxes, manuals & stuff ánd have happy customers at the same time! 

 

[Troy Smith]

15 minutes ago, CedB said:

Is it supposed to be like that?

No.  it's meant to curve.   The cockpit side wall is curved plywood.  

 

Note the cockpit fitting are attached from the outside, screwed or bolted through the ply, as can be seen here

17 Squadron 10 by Сергей Кривицкий, on Flickr

If you zoom the pic, the detail are very clear, visble screw heads etc.

To the left of the dogs neck a small fabric patch can be seen, with 'pinked' edges 

The machine sporting this is YB-F of 17 Sq, July 1940

a rare P**** series Hurricane built with fabric wings,  

3 other pics are here

https://www.flickr.com/photos/144949377@N05/albums/72157678154026658/with/46178589494/

There are 3 possible serials that are fabric winged and were at 17 Sq.

 

HTH

 

 

[corsaircorp]

Hello Ced,

I oftenly be nicknamed a Dinosaur...

Old fashioned modeller... What should I add...

CC

[Cookenbacher]

They're looking great Ced, and it's a very useful comparison between the kits.

 

Glad your thumb is healing so quickly. I did nearly the same thing a few weeks ago opening a package, and globbed some superglue onto the cut - it worked! (Also managed to spill some on my model and didn't notice til it had set, d'oh!)