EwenS Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 The VIP Voyager has left Cambridge with its new paint scheme. 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard E Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 That's a very smart scheme although I'm not totally sure about the "UNITED KINGDOM" legend being presented in gold; I wonder if we'll see one of the decal manufacturers reproduce the markings in due course. Perhaps when it's appropriate it will be christened with a suitable name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigsty Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 That was quick! It puts the mockers on my chances, too. I was a bit surprised at the cost, so I was doing to ask everyone on here who’s piled into Halfords Appliance White in the last few weeks to donate theirs, then offer to do it for half a million and cut everyone in on the profits. And I think we’d have done a classier job than that, too. Bit gaudy, innit? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglierating Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 (edited) Meh I give up ....subtle it is not 🙁 My opinion each to there own🤔😀 Edited June 25, 2020 by junglierating 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeronut Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 The reported cost was not all taken up by paint, the aircraft also had quite a serious servicing. As for the paint it first had to have its old paint stripped back to bare metal (and plastic) so that inspection/repair/modifications could be carried out. Then its a coat of primer followed (presumably) by the Infra Red undercoat (black!) which is something your everyday airliner doesn't get before the top coat goes on. The markings could be paint but more likely they are a vinyl wrap. The A330 is not a small beast and frankly I'd be more interested in the acreage covered, the volume of paint used along with the not inconsiderable weight of it all rather than the cost. That I'll leave to the media who like to mis-report things so as to create dissent amongst the masses, which the media can report on thus justifying the salaries they don't deserve. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyf117 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 (edited) Anyone else notice a length of what semed to be blue paper roll that suddenly appeared in the vicinity of the port tailplane as the aircraft started to rotate? It wasn't visible around the tailplane root or leading edge as it was taxiing along the runway, but at 2:58 it suddenly flew up in the air, and certainly didn't look to come from the runway surface - though that's where it fluttered down to. Hopefully someone did a FOD sweep and retrieved it afterwards... Edited June 25, 2020 by andyf117 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMK Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Looks pretty sharp to this non-UKian. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigsty Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Aeronut said: he reported cost was not all taken up by paint, the aircraft also had quite a serious servicing. As for the paint it first had to have its old paint stripped back to bare metal (and plastic) so that inspection/repair/modifications could be carried out. Then its a coat of primer followed (presumably) by the Infra Red undercoat (black!) which is something your everyday airliner doesn't get before the top coat goes on. The markings could be paint but more likely they are a vinyl wrap. Alright, you’ve convinced me. I’ll knock my bid down to £400,000 and I’ll clean all the glass at no extra cost. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentwaters81tfw Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, pigsty said: Alright, you’ve convinced me. I’ll knock my bid down to £400,000 and I’ll clean all the glass at no extra cost. Can you check the oil and the tyres while you're at it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XV107 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 In terms of personal taste - The 'United Kingdom' titles would, I think, be better as 'Royal Air Force' (if 'Transport Command' were added, even better...), but if it had to be 'United Kingdom', another colour might have been better. The serial number is also a bit large, I'd suggest. Otherwise, hardly as horrendous as some were predicting. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spec7 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 I doubt many anywhere in the world would not see this as British Airways. Should have used the Red Arrows scheme. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete in Lincs Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 2 hours ago, andyf117 said: Anyone else notice a length of what semed to be blue paper roll Kimwipe stuck down between the tailplane and fuselage that came free as the tailplane moved and the Aircraft rotated 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pin Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 I don't approve the costs (I can hardly approve anything at all the government is doing in recent years), but I want the decal in 1/144 !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentwaters81tfw Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Considering she has RR engines, where is the logo on the engine pods? Flying the flag?? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pin Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, bentwaters81tfw said: Considering she has RR engines, where is the logo on the engine pods? It was in the initial design but they have run out of funds! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentwaters81tfw Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 18 minutes ago, Pin said: It was in the initial design but they have run out of funds! What? 4 vinyl stickers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmatthewbacon Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Personally, I think the UNITED KINGDOM is unnecessary and just detracts from the coherence of the scheme. I would have thought the Union flag was enough... it has to be one of the most instantly recognisable national flags in the world, surely...? best, M. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Looking at it from a foreigner perspective, I may say that subtle it is not, and maybe in my taste an aircraft carrying the most important VIPs of a state should be a bit more understated, however it is IMHO a very good looking scheme. Not subtle but not excessively weird, has a certain elegance abd a good balance between the colored areas and the mainly white fuselage. I wouldn't mind building a kit in this scheme, I quite like it ! The United Kingdom titles IMHO would have looked better in dark blue, gold does not really fit with the overall scheme, but guess someone had some reason for them, Have to say that I can understand how the aircraft does not carry Royal Air Force titles: afterall whenever this aircraft will fly it will represent the Country as a whole, not the RAF. Even if it's operated by the RAF. The same happens with many other VIP aircraft over the world, starting with the US presidential fleet, whose aircraft carry the titles United States of America and not the USAF titles. Same for the types used by the French air force for similar duties, they carry the titles Republique Francais. Speaking of the French aircraft, their A-330 actually carries markings that are not too different in concept from the ones applied to the RAF aircraft (large national flag on the tail spreading onto the fuselage).. and also has the titles in gold... 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pin Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, Giorgio N said: aircraft does not carry Royal Air Force titles It does 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnT Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 If they lost the gold United Kingdom then it would be passable. It just does not complement the rest of the design and looks out of place, bling and tacky. Yuk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Loss of taste can be both a symptom and a lasting aftereffect of Covid-19. Perhaps the original scheme with the addition of the new Union Flag effect on the tail and rear fuselage would have been a more impressive option. The overall white has a touch of oligarch's flying bordello and the oversized 'United Kingdom' titles suggest that the flag itself carries little weight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coors54 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 15 hours ago, Aeronut said: The reported cost was not all taken up by paint, the aircraft also had quite a serious servicing. No it didn't, paint only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 I don't know. I rather like it. Yes it is a bit bold such as the fuselage titles but it is great to see full colour red white blue D type roundels again !!! Yay!!! Nice big serial numbers too. Are they under the wings? Some nay sayers are complaining the flag is upside down I'm not so sure. With it in a 'swirling ' mode its hard to say. Far cry from resembling the BA scheme but what its all about is flying the flag for this country as does the BA scheme. A nice corporate style flash down the sides too Also its not far out being on a par with the Canadian A310/CC-150 VIP scheme. Great. (As for costs well a lot lot more has been fritted away on less deserving buys.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard E Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 11 minutes ago, Paul J said: Far cry from resembling the BA scheme but what its all about is flying the flag for this country as does the BA scheme. A nice corporate style flash down the sides too I think the media would label any white colour scheme with a Union Flag design on the tail as one which "looks like BA". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMK Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 14 hours ago, Paul J said: Some nay sayers are complaining the flag is upside down I'm not so sure. I’d say that the nay-sayers don’t understand that the orientation of the flag depends on which side of the fuselage it’s displayed on - they’re showing their ignorance in a rush to score points. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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