Sturmovik Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.R.Morrison Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 The film shows several (different) aircraft. The 190F-8 has the twin underwing racks, and no guns fitted outboard. The one with the 4 x MG151/20 wings (i.e., outboard guns) was a Fw 190A-8. The 50 cm yellow cowl band, and yellow rudder was a marking ordered for Luftflotte 4 aircraft from 7.March 1945 on. This marking replaced the yellow fuselage band and 25 cm 'V' marking on the port wing underside (overlappng onto the leading edge and top surface by 60 cm) which had been ordered on 22.Sept. 1944 (to be completed by 25.September). GRM 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfman Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 Very interesting, thanks for posting. Wulfman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torqueofthedevil Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 The first aircraft shown looks like Red 31, the aircraft belly landed by Bruce Carr after 'borrowing' it from a German airfield at the end of the war Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafetyDad Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 The first few seconds (up to about 0:12) show an usual 'hybrid' 190 'borrowed' by Bruce Carr. Beat me to it @torqueofthedevil! More details can be found in Airfoil No 2 where the story of this 'joyride gone awry' is told in full. SD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafetyDad Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 The F-8 being taxied appears in Airfoil No 1 and is captioned as being at Herzogenaurach in Germany. According to Steve Sheflin, it is Wk Nr 588453 '<Green2' - a Gruppe Adjutant's aircraft. Note the dented air intake bulge on the cowling, and the flat tyre on the tailwheel. Whether that prevented the aircraft from being flown or happened after landing we'll never know. Source: Sheflin S (1983) Airfoil 1 1 Costa Mesa, California. BTW, the 5 Airfoil magazines are well worth tracking down if you can, despite their age. They are full of rare and unusual pictures of WW2 aircraft from both participating sides. The 'Last of the Luftwaffe' features across the issues are worth the price of purchase alone in my view. SD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torqueofthedevil Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, SafetyDad said: The F-8 being taxied appears in Airfoil No 1 and is captioned as being at Herzogenaurach in Germany. According to Steve Sheflin, it is Wk Nr 588453 '<Green2' - a Gruppe Adjutant's aircraft. Note the dented air intake bulge on the cowling, and the flat tyre on the tailwheel. Whether that prevented the aircraft from being flown or happened after landing we'll never know. Source: Sheflin S (1983) Airfoil 1 1 Costa Mesa, California. BTW, the 5 Airfoil magazines are well worth tracking down if you can, despite their age. They are full of rare and unusual pictures of WW2 aircraft from both participating sides. The 'Last of the Luftwaffe' features across the issues are worth the price of purchase alone in my view. SD Agree - I have 2, 4 and 5, 1 is on order and I would dearly love to get hold of the last one ! Any idea where to find it, other than scanning eBay and Amazon repeatedly? Edited June 20, 2020 by torqueofthedevil Silly mistake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
occa Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 Very nice clip but it's not in color, it's just colorized and that in a poor way. All the personal are mostly in grey tones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafetyDad Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 18 minutes ago, occa said: Very nice clip but it's not in color, it's just colorized and that in a poor way. All the personal are mostly in grey tones. Not sure that I agree. Steve Sheflin's articles in the Airfoil magazines I mentioned above include screen captures from this film. Sheflin is a well respected Luftwaffe researcher and writer, and I'm sure woyld have considered the possibility of colourised pictures/film. The colours have shifted considerably - that it obvious, but I believe they are original. SD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafetyDad Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 34 minutes ago, torqueofthedevil said: Agree - I have 2, 4 and 5, 1 is on order and I would dearly love to get hold of the last one ! Any idea where to find it, other than scanning eBay and Amazon repeatedly? I had to look for a while for my set - I finally found them in a now-closed Military Book seller's shop in Heaton, Newcastle. I asked if he had any, and, because they were softcovers, I think he rather dismissed them as 'serious' publications. I got all 5 for £10! Two available here - https://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/SearchResults?sts=t&cm_sp=SearchF-_-home-_-Results&an=&tn=Airfoil&kn=Sheflin&isbn= Doesn't say which two issues these are. Good luck with your search! SD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 What are the things on the prop blade roots, seen here at 2.30, clip is linked to that time. Nor something I have seen on a Fw190 prop before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elger Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 39 minutes ago, Troy Smith said: What are the things on the prop blade roots, seen here at 2.30, clip is linked to that time. Nor something I have seen on a Fw190 prop before? I think they are counterweights to reduce vibration 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torqueofthedevil Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 22 minutes ago, torqueofthedevil said: Agree - I have 2, 4 and 5 and would dearly love to get hold of the other two! Any idea where to find them, other than scanning eBay repeatedly? 1 hour ago, SafetyDad said: I had to look for a while for my set - I finally found them in a now-closed Military Book seller's shop in Heaton, Newcastle. I asked if he had any, and, because they were softcovers, I think he rather dismissed them as 'serious' publications. I got all 5 for £10! Two available here - https://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/SearchResults?sts=t&cm_sp=SearchF-_-home-_-Results&an=&tn=Airfoil&kn=Sheflin&isbn= Doesn't say which two issues these are. Good luck with your search! SD Many thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torqueofthedevil Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, elger said: I think they are counterweights to reduce vibration Yes, usually seen on the later models - standard I believe on the A-9 and F-9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattlow Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, elger said: I think they are counterweights to reduce vibration Yes, they are. Jerry Crandall makes a set in his Eagle Parts range http://www.eagle-editions.com/fw-190-a-spinner-and-prop-blades-with-external-weights-ep-46-32.html Matt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tank152 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 So does Ultracast. https://www.ultracast.ca/product-p/ult48253.htm 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDriskill Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 (edited) This info from my fellow 1/72 enthusiast Mark in Poland (who posts his superb models as "Kitir" and "hobbykiller" on other sites): The radial-engine Fw 190 actually used 5 different propellers over the course of the war.: VDM 9-12067A, the normal metal prop seen on earlier versions. VDM 9-12067B, same prop, with the external counterweights. (Which were part no. VDM 9-12153.51) VDM 9-12153B, metal prop on later variants, with slightly wider blades. VDM 9-12153C, same prop, with the external counterweights. VDM 9-12176A, the wide-blade wood prop. The latter three types were all used on machines manufactured late in the war, though the wood one is most common on the A-9 and F-9, with the up-rated BMW 801TS engine. We are likely seeing the 12153B and 12153C on the A-8 and F-8 in the video. Edited June 21, 2020 by MDriskill Minor O-C disorder 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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