bar side Posted June 27, 2020 Author Share Posted June 27, 2020 57 minutes ago, JayBee said: Sorry, I hope it works now. Nope - have you got permissions set for public? I get the on google photos if I don’t make the folder public Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayBee Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 Hmm strange, it was a free photo upload service. Now I use my Flickr account, hope it works now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted June 27, 2020 Author Share Posted June 27, 2020 Got it now. Just loaded up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted June 27, 2020 Author Share Posted June 27, 2020 (edited) Feels a lot more solid now. Wing & tail fit is tight & the body is feeling more robust. Going to need some nose weight - haven’t got the exhausts fitted There would be gaps either side of the cockpit where the intakes are. So added covering plates either side of the rear seat. And started adding some cockpit detail. Really need the seats now to see how much space these is to play with. Going to build a central instrument block behind the front seat, but again need seats to fit it Glued the wing halves together so when that is dry I can build up the sawtooth Edited June 27, 2020 by bar side 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted June 29, 2020 Author Share Posted June 29, 2020 The back is glued together now & working forward. The lower central panel is also in. Fit is fair to poor, as expected! Test fitting the exhausts now They are not as bad as it looks. The blutac is pushing them forward. Want to get them on & start building up the fit with some liquid green. Well it was liquid, now more of a slightly spreadable green clay. Cockpit got a quick coat to even it up. The resin seats have dispatched, so hopefully get them soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete in Lincs Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 Repeat after me, 'Old kits can be fun, I enjoy a challenge'. Well, if it fell together you'd be bored by now. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted June 29, 2020 Author Share Posted June 29, 2020 34 minutes ago, Pete in Lincs said: Repeat after me, 'Old kits can be fun, I enjoy a challenge'. Well, if it fell together you'd be bored by now. If it fell together it’s probably out of my price range! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete in Lincs Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 Mine too. I'm not mean, I'm careful. I've got stuff in the stash that I won't build as to me it's too valuable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted June 29, 2020 Author Share Posted June 29, 2020 I do worry that sometimes an old kit, replacement decals, lots of resin options, perhaps these newer kits aren’t that much more expensive. That why I prefer scratch building modifications rather than buying them. Got a nice Valom kit with etch parts already in it. Looking forward to that one 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted June 30, 2020 Author Share Posted June 30, 2020 Just wondering if the angle on the exhausts is right. They seem to be pointing outwards & downwards. Ends have been thinned down from the standard kit parts. So compared to the real thing - walk through area on here Seems they are about right! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted June 30, 2020 Author Share Posted June 30, 2020 This one agrees too 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted June 30, 2020 Author Share Posted June 30, 2020 Now the tail. Must be a E tail. A bit curvy on top & not as straight an pointy as it should be. So a bit of sanding to shape. And the upper ‘winglets’ for want of the correct term - not seen on a Germany model. And where is the bullet above the rudder? Also, shouldn’t there be a left hand size bulge ahead of the rudder, looking like it houses the operating gear? time to get out the filler & dremel I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted June 30, 2020 Author Share Posted June 30, 2020 Portuguese jets are ex-German Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted June 30, 2020 Author Share Posted June 30, 2020 The back end of the fuselage shape is wrong too. Needs straightening up the top line & build it up a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayBee Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 For the Prototype 40+01 the antennas on the tail are correct, but later removed on serial Alpha Jet. Plz note the landing lights in the wings ( early Prototypes didnt have any lights on the landing gear) These lights in the wings where also removed on serial AJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted June 30, 2020 Author Share Posted June 30, 2020 21 minutes ago, JayBee said: For the Prototype 40+01 the antennas on the tail are correct, but later removed on serial Alpha Jet. Plz note the landing lights in the wings ( early Prototypes didnt have any lights on the landing gear) These lights in the wings where also removed on serial AJ. Thanks for that JayBee. I have been struggling to search up specific airframe reference photos. I would prefer a serial Alpha Jet - would it be too simple to switch around the decals to 40+10? Then no antennas & wing lights? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayBee Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 You´re welcome! Yes 40+10 would be possible and have no antennas and wing lights. Some of the stencils on serial AJ looks different compared to the 40+01 Prototype. But if you can live with that difference, go ahead and use the kit decals. I remember the kit and the horrible fit very well, I built this kit as a young teenager and even back in the days and for my young age I was very dissapointed about the quality of the kit. 😀 In my opinion the Esci Fiat G 91 was much more better in quality and released and built by me at the same timeframe. Good to see both kits here again on the bench! Kind regards, Jürgen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted July 1, 2020 Author Share Posted July 1, 2020 Thanks Jurgen. Not sure when I will start the Gina, but quite looking forward to that. got the resin seats today 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted July 3, 2020 Author Share Posted July 3, 2020 Decals have de-yellowed a bit with some time on the windowsill and some sunshine going to try to use as many as possible, with the code being edited to 40 + 10 rather than the prototype 40 + 01 with its non production features. Wing sawtooth extension stared with a new frame in plasticard, then in filling with car body filler. Control columns in, some paint on the seats, decal side panels on And with that I put the body together. Instrument panels drop in from above later and the seats won’t be fixed in until the canopy goes on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dstream Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Nice work on the sawtooth extensions. Cockpit looks also good. I am sure you have already noticed it, but all the trailing edges will benefit of some sharpening, including the jet pipes and their cowlings. You are going to be busy with this old lady, but the result will be rewarding. I also like a lot these old jets from '60s to '80s and the Alpha Jet is still flying. As you saw, I am working (slow) on the ESCI-Italeri G 91, and also with that probably there will not be a single piece not requiring a modification. But this is part of the fun, isn't it? Good modelling, Daniele Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted July 4, 2020 Author Share Posted July 4, 2020 Cheers Daniele. I was watching your G 91 build when choosing between the Gina and the Alpha Jet. Nice work on your build. The jet pipes have been sharpened up. The cowling was already pretty good, currently blending it in to the body as fit isn’t great. I would love to pose the canopy open but I just don’t think it’s worth the risk cutting it so it will have to stay closed. You learn far more from having to fix up an old kit than from just following the instructions of a new one. It’s funny how so many old kits were rushed out and based on the prototype and don’t represent the production aircraft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted July 4, 2020 Author Share Posted July 4, 2020 Quick sand down after yesterday’s car filler in the tail end and the saw tooth. Not done yet - at least one more coat of filler & sand back plus touch up the scribed lines. Seats are painted but just dropped in. No panels yet & large lump of blu tac for a nose weight Nose is blu taced in place but starting to look like an Alpha Jet 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Looks good! Great progress!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shalako Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 3 hours ago, bar side said: The air intakes area just doesn't seem to be quite right, does it? Could this be one of the details from the actual aircraft that ESCI didn't manage to depict adequately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted July 4, 2020 Author Share Posted July 4, 2020 Not sure on the intakes. Better angle here Don’t forget the canopy will have some paint, there is no wing shadow on the model and the nose is on with blutac and she has no wheels yet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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