Aardvark Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 1 hour ago, billn53 said: I see you’ve been reading that Russian aviation philosopher, F. Nietski. 😁 Yes, yes You also reading Russian aviation philosopher-historic Fedor Nietzschenskij, "Thus Spake Gurevich to Mikoyan"? 😉😁 15 minutes ago, Serkan Sen said: 11. Instrument panel in cockpit as on MiG-35 type.... The cockpit area is very narrow and there is no place to work in detail. Could it be done to insert a section along the section axis along the entire length? This will immediately solve all problems with the existing layout, the cockpit will become wider, the bomb bay .... 12 minutes ago, Serkan Sen said: In smaller aft bay there will be two R-73 (AA-11 "Archer") missiles. In longer and wider front bay there will be mix of R-27 (AA-10 "Alamo") and R-77/K-77 in total four missiles. R-27 (AA-10 "Alamo") considered not a promising model missile without folding rudders and therefore poorly suited for placement inside the bomb bay, it may be worth considering the option: - two R-73 (AA-11 "Archer")/R-74 + two R-77/K-77 + one R-37; - two R-73 (AA-11 "Archer")/R-74 + two R-77/K-77 + one KS-172? B.R. Serge 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted June 18, 2020 Author Share Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) The lower half was divided into two pieces along the cut line placed roughly middle of front bay: The cut position was selected at that position not to damage diamond wedge shape fairings (although the inner wedges will be removed): The rear bay aft area was also expanded to let R-73 missile to fit inside. R-77 missile fit now easily to front bay area: The inner diamond shape wedges were also removed: All the gaps were filled with putty and both halves were glued together using 30mm polystyrene inserts: After a bit filling and sanding now both upper and lower surface halves seem fine: The next step is to make front bay wider to allow two missiles side by side. Serkan Edited June 18, 2020 by Serkan Sen 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted June 18, 2020 Author Share Posted June 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, Aardvark said: R-27 (AA-10 "Alamo") considered not a promising model missile without folding rudders and therefore poorly suited for placement inside the bomb bay, You are right Serge. I can use either a (or pair) guieded bomb or four K-77. Serkan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aardvark Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 27 minutes ago, Serkan Sen said: The next step is to make front bay wider to allow two missiles side by side. Serkan Do You want to remake the main wheel bay in order to make the bomb bay the entire length? 22 minutes ago, Serkan Sen said: You are right Serge. I can use either a (or pair) guieded bomb or four K-77. Serkan Of course, if You want a guieded bomb , then Your desire is law, but KS-172 Novator, as it seems to me, is quite simple for self-production: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novator_KS-172 But your MiG with KS-172 will be afraid of AWACS! 😉😁 B.R. Serge 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted June 18, 2020 Author Share Posted June 18, 2020 4 hours ago, Aardvark said: Do You want to remake the main wheel bay in order to make the bomb bay the entire length? No, there will be two bays separated by main wheel wells. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aardvark Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 I haven’t been sketching for a long time .... 🤗 My point of view on МиГ 1.37 "Хорёк-Е"😁 canopy, IRST, wing spoilers, dielectric panels on: -wing; -fin; -narrow; -also possible exhaust type .... the diameter of the rear radar is much larger than the front...🤔🤗🤤😲 Drop-tank 3000 liter Su-24M type, as I think! 😉😎 In case someone doubts that I, too, am amember of the "MiG-37B club": ...in 72nd scale, ofcource!!! 😉😁😎 3 minutes ago, Serkan Sen said: No, there will be two bays separated by main wheel wells As You wish! Your topic! B.R. Serge P.S. I'm forgot Red Star on the image! Shame on me! 😭😭 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted June 18, 2020 Author Share Posted June 18, 2020 Your sketch looks great Serge. Now you can start to build your dream aircraft hence you have almost everything you need (except red star 😁)... Serkan 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted June 18, 2020 Author Share Posted June 18, 2020 32 minutes ago, Aardvark said: the diameter of the rear radar is much larger than the front...🤔🤗🤤😲 Then my version will be Front Line Fighter whereas yours will be the Aft Line Fighter... 😁😁😁 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aardvark Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, Serkan Sen said: Your sketch looks great Serge. Thank! 5 minutes ago, Serkan Sen said: Now you can start to build your dream aircraft hence you have almost everything you need (except red star 😁)... If I have another one, most likely I will do so, but so far I have only one, and prefer to make it in the Italeri classic style with K-36, R-60 and wheels from the MiG-29.🤗 In addition, my sketch is actually based on Your drawings from this topic!🤔🤗✊🤝 B.R. Serge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted June 18, 2020 Author Share Posted June 18, 2020 You haven't seen my latest drawing yet!.. I keep it for tomorrow's post... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted June 18, 2020 Author Share Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) Ok, I can't wait till tomorrow!.. Here is the final shape (except canopy and IRST) with camo to be applied. The details will be tomorrow. Serkan Edited June 18, 2020 by Serkan Sen 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted June 18, 2020 Author Share Posted June 18, 2020 It would be great to get @Nikolay Polyakov's comments as well 🙂 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aardvark Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 33 minutes ago, Serkan Sen said: You haven't seen my latest drawing yet!.. I keep it for tomorrow's post... Fearfully! My reaction to Your statement can be seen here: (spitting out sand) I think this is psychological pressure and I will complain to the moderators, the UN and the intergalactic league of nations! 😁😁 B.R. Serge 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikolay Polyakov Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 11 minutes ago, Serkan Sen said: It would be great to get @Nikolay Polyakov's comments as well 🙂 It was a 1994 and me with my friend bought the Italeri kit in the bookstore near the school, right between the lessons... I still remember that day! There was a time when the boys looked forward for the F-19 (real or in a 72nd scale), but we’re having only the Revell’s 1:144 kit. The MiG-37 was an eye-catching and good-produced kit, the only disadvantage was the decals - we’re struggling to get a red stencils visible on the black plastic. Anyway, these stencils was readable and absolutely normal. 1 hour ago, Aardvark said: My point of view on МиГ 1.37 "Хорёк-Е"😁 The tail looks very MiG-31-ish, very nice! 👍 39 minutes ago, Serkan Sen said: Ok, I can't wait till tomorrow!.. Here is the final shape (except canopy and IRST) with camo to be applied. Very interesting approach, Serkan! It reminds me of how I did the remixes... Sometimes I reworking original song (or composition) in a very unusual way, it’s not intentional - just a courage. You’re doing it big, I’m looking forward for a progress here! 😉 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted June 18, 2020 Author Share Posted June 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Nikolay Polyakov said: You’re doing it big, I’m looking forward for a progress here! 😉 It's been a long time since I heard from you Nikolay. I am very happy to see you here again. I will accelerate this build to be able to go back pending Flankers and Blackbirds 🙂. By the way I have launched a Viper build with Su-57 camo here: Serkan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikolay Polyakov Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 5 hours ago, Serkan Sen said: It's been a long time since I heard from you Nikolay. I am very happy to see you here again. I will accelerate this build to be able to go back pending Flankers and Blackbirds 🙂. Yes, I made a little pause on modelling because I stuck with a Vigilante and I don’t want to start another build till I’ll finish her. Last night I applied some putty to the fuselage and this means that the ending of the build is moving far away... Thank you, I’m really glad to see you too! 😉 Excellent Viper build, Serkan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey-1980 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 12 hours ago, Serkan Sen said: Ok, I can't wait till tomorrow!.. Here is the final shape (except canopy and IRST) with camo to be applied. The details will be tomorrow. Serkas Now that is an awesome render and paint scheme.....looking forward to seeing the finished aircraft. Really coming along quickly too! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aardvark Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 (edited) On 6/18/2020 at 10:15 PM, Serkan Sen said: Serkan Now this camouflage is no longer relevant, outdated, the future is with overall mirror coatings: (Resources photo: https://afirsov.livejournal.com/557375.html#comments ) as a means of protection against laser weapons. Therefore, I don't know who was* ex-owner You model: but he definitely possessed information about future developments in the field of protection against laser weapons! 😁😁😁_____________ *- maybe he came from the future for termination Your future Italery MiG-37 .... termination with his poor build?😉😁😁 B.R. Serge P.S. On photo, probably really tasting mirror cover as protection cover from Air-to-Air laser weapons. 🤗😎 Edited June 21, 2020 by Aardvark 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey-1980 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 What are those chase planes in your pic? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rizon Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 22 minutes ago, Mikey-1980 said: What are those chase planes in your pic? They are the "Model 401" from Scaled Composites (Lockheed Martin) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil5208 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 3 hours ago, Rizon said: They are the "Model 401" from Scaled Composites (Lockheed Martin) Being trialed by the USAF for varios stealth/sensor package/drone applications 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aardvark Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, Rizon said: 10 hours ago, Mikey-1980 said: What are those chase planes in your pic? They are the "Model 401" from Scaled Composites (Lockheed Martin) Yeep, birds from the laboratory Burt Rutan always was amazing birds! B.w. general scheme the "Model 401" from Scaled Composites close to classic MiG-37B from Italeri ! 😉😁 B.R. Serge Edited June 22, 2020 by Aardvark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted June 27, 2020 Author Share Posted June 27, 2020 (edited) Last week I was fully busy with building garden fences... Today I have again a bit time to make some progress on this project. Now the main bay has more room than before: The halves were taped together to check the bay dept: Also the fuselage was placed on top of F-22 Raptor to compare the sizes: I imported above image to my drawing to reshape the wings: And finally I have created this camo: The next step is to reshape inlet bumps... Serkan Edited June 27, 2020 by Serkan Sen 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted June 28, 2020 Author Share Posted June 28, 2020 The inlet bumps were too high to let enough airflow to engine compressor. I have decided to make them a bit flat to enlarge inlet area. The below image shows modified and original bumps: And here are the top and side views of new and original bump contours: The same modification will be done to starboard side as well... Serkan 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted June 28, 2020 Author Share Posted June 28, 2020 After reshaping inlet bumps the next step was to build wings from polystyrene sheet. First the templates were created: Then glued over 1mm polystyrene sheet. The wing halves were glued together with Revell polystyrol glue: Also front bay walls were built and the fuselage halves were glued together: The engine exhausts were repositioned due to aft bay extension: Next step is to modify fins... Serkan 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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