CedB Posted June 16, 2020 Author Share Posted June 16, 2020 Wow, nice crowd! Welcome (deep breath) Ben (thanks for the box art), Giorgio, Ian (have one for me), Neil, Cookie, Roger, Dennis, John W, Johnny, Adrian, Vultures1, Simon, Keith, Dandie, Steve, Ruskin AS (nice theme on yours), Rob, Martin, Chris, Phil and Bill I know the AK True Metal has had some mixed reviews but I love it, so we'll see what we can do. I'm hoping to get a similar effect to my Liberator that I did back in 2016: So, usual shots of the part trees. Two of these: Nice detail eh? I'm a bit worried that these thin bits will get knocked off: …but, apparently, 18-21 aren't used. I'm looking forward to playing with this: Hopefully I'll find some nice reference shots. Wings and things: Nicely framed clear parts (for a change): Nice transfers: Not sure I'll use the yellow fin tops or the anti-glare; we shall see. 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 It won't like settling over that huge snout will it Daco extra for a test run huh Ooops, pardon me butting in, I know nozzzings 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbudde Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, CedB said: Hopefully I'll find some nice reference shots. What about this Ced? https://www.360cities.net/image/xxxx-1 Cheers Edited June 16, 2020 by bbudde 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted June 16, 2020 Author Share Posted June 16, 2020 3 hours ago, perdu said: It won't like settling over that huge snout will it Daco extra for a test run huh Ooops, pardon me butting in, I know nozzzings Butt in Bill, butt in! I always appreciate your input I think you're right though - paint will be safer. 3 hours ago, bbudde said: What about this Ced? https://www.360cities.net/image/xxxx-1 Cheers Cheers Ben, great resource! I found a nice video of a model with nice, and hopefully accurate, internals here. Also a video of Lady Liberty Photos Inside & Out here. Very little else though, sadly. Do point me at things if I've missed anything. Build started. This is only on one side (weird): Why sand when you can chisel?: More chopping. I can see the hole in the bottom (titter) but there are no marks for the cutout on the top: I'll leave it until it's obvious what it's for. Interior Green sprayed on various bits: I need to find out about the bomb colours. Olice drab it says in the instructions. Sounds OK? 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles87 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 I seem to have a 24hr delay on your builds at the moment but I’m here now. It does look to be nicely detailed, and a Korean War scheme also. Goody. John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookytooth Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 49 minutes ago, CedB said: I'll leave it until it's obvious what it's for. It is possibly for the radio mast looking at the pics earlier Ced. Simon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 If it helps, I recall from my build of this kit that some things to consider are: - thinning the rear edges of the cowling/cooling flaps - adding exhausts - the periscope is very fiddly a nice kit, despite a few inaccuracies Martin 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbody Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 I have a couple cockpit photos of one that I took back in '86. Chris 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil5208 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 10 hours ago, CedB said: I know the AK True Metal has had some mixed reviews but I love it, so we'll see what we can do. I'm hoping to get a similar effect to my Liberator that I did back in 2016: …but, apparently, 18-21 aren't used. Only 8 .50 cals, shame. Looking forward to the AK Metal pastes as I have NMF finish planned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spadgent Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Nice start. Does this mean tother one is finished😇 right I’ll go and have a look. 🙌 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philp Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 15 hours ago, CedB said: Butt in Bill, butt in! I always appreciate your input I think you're right though - paint will be safer. Cheers Ben, great resource! I found a nice video of a model with nice, and hopefully accurate, internals here. Also a video of Lady Liberty Photos Inside & Out here. Very little else though, sadly. Do point me at things if I've missed anything. I need to find out about the bomb colours. Olice drab it says in the instructions. Sounds OK? The Revell build looks pretty accurate. Is a good kit. Lady Liberty is a B-26K redone as a B. How can I tell? Two control sticks. The original version only had 1 stick and pilot seat. When they redid the bomber for use in 'Nam they put in a co-pilot spot with associated stick, instruments and seat. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted June 17, 2020 Author Share Posted June 17, 2020 22 hours ago, Biggles87 said: I seem to have a 24hr delay on your builds at the moment but I’m here now. It does look to be nicely detailed, and a Korean War scheme also. Goody. John Thanks John - no worries, I know you're busy with 'real life'! 22 hours ago, Spookytooth said: It is possibly for the radio mast looking at the pics earlier Ced. Simon. Ah, thanks Simon I've just checked the instructions (as I should have done before) and it's an aerial thingie (what are they called?): Note that the actual part doesn't have a locating pin so I'm pleased I checked otherwise I'd have been glueing it to nothing I must remember to glue that on before I get paint on the plastic. 19 hours ago, RidgeRunner said: If it helps, I recall from my build of this kit that some things to consider are: - thinning the rear edges of the cowling/cooling flaps - adding exhausts - the periscope is very fiddly a nice kit, despite a few inaccuracies Martin Thanks Martin - helpful and appreciated 17 hours ago, dogsbody said: I have a couple cockpit photos of one that I took back in '86. [snip pics] Chris Thanks Chris - a great help 16 hours ago, neil5208 said: Only 8 .50 cals, shame. Looking forward to the AK Metal pastes as I have NMF finish planned. Thanks Neil Hopefully the AK will suit your taste - I like it. 15 hours ago, The Spadgent said: Nice start. Does this mean tother one is finished😇 right I’ll go and have a look. 🙌 Thanks Johnny Not finished yet but at that 'let things dry' stage. 7 hours ago, philp said: The Revell build looks pretty accurate. Is a good kit. Lady Liberty is a B-26K redone as a B. How can I tell? Two control sticks. The original version only had 1 stick and pilot seat. When they redid the bomber for use in 'Nam they put in a co-pilot spot with associated stick, instruments and seat. Thanks Phil, helpful There's only one control column in the kit so looks to be 'of the correct period'. Mojo a bit low this morning and glueing bombs and sanding them is not 'therapeutic' IMHO: The kit has two 'D' trees and the bomb halves are individually numbered. Made me nervous that they were different somehow so I've kept them apart on the bench. Then I compared two from different 'pairs' and I can't see the difference. Wasted care I've done two pairs now: Four more to go. I may mix this with the internals painting as a mojo maintenance measure. I wonder if it'll work… 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookytooth Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 58 minutes ago, CedB said: Note that the actual part doesn't have a locating pin so I'm pleased I checked otherwise I'd have been glueing it to nothing I must remember to glue that on before I get paint on the plastic. It could be worth pinning it Ced, to give the join a bit more strength. Simon. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom216 Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 ^^ What he said. Don't want to knock that wee part off while painting. You'll find out how colorful your language can get!😀 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted June 17, 2020 Author Share Posted June 17, 2020 Thanks Simon and Thom - you are very wise Eight bombs assembled and sanded: iModelKit tells me both Hu66 and 155 are 'Olive drab'. We shall see. The blob of paint on the 66 lid is to show that the paint inside is NOT the colour of the label. Weird. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 6 hours ago, CedB said: it's an aerial thingie (what are they called?): I do believe it's a D.F.* loop (housing)... Keith * Direction Finding.... 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted June 17, 2020 Author Share Posted June 17, 2020 Ah, that's it, DF Loop housing, thanks Keith Not wanting to open a can of worms on the Olive Drab discussions but: The Hu66 looks too grey for my liking so it was a first thin coat with the Hu155: Yes I should have used the airbrush but it's a bit late for a noisy setup. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattlow Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 28 minutes ago, CedB said: DF Loop housing I think the Americans called them footballs. Seeing as their footballs are what we'd call rugby ball shaped it makes sense. Quite a beast this one. Chalk and cheese compared to the petite Proctor.. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy G Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 I don’t know whether this applies to the humbrol pots but there were two variations of Olive Drab - pre and post 1943. I did a Dakota built in 44 in the post 43 and it just didn’t look right, turns out that the uptake was somewhat slow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles87 Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 I have a couple of tins of ‘Gloy’ ( remember them ) olive drab which were given to me, one of them is still unopened. It has a distinct brownish tint which I like for USAF aircraft. Sorry, that’s not really much use to you, just boasting. John PS I think some of the bombs used in Korea were probably left over from WW2 so the paintwork wouldn’t have been exactly pristine so brush painting is good. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted June 18, 2020 Author Share Posted June 18, 2020 8 hours ago, Mattlow said: I think the Americans called them footballs. Seeing as their footballs are what we'd call rugby ball shaped it makes sense. Quite a beast this one. Chalk and cheese compared to the petite Proctor.. Thanks Matt Yep, not as big as some but a nice change from tiny. 8 hours ago, Andy G said: I don’t know whether this applies to the humbrol pots but there were two variations of Olive Drab - pre and post 1943. I did a Dakota built in 44 in the post 43 and it just didn’t look right, turns out that the uptake was somewhat slow. It's a can of worms Andy - I would say have a look at the links I posted above but, to summarise, there are lots of 'variations' 44 minutes ago, Biggles87 said: I have a couple of tins of ‘Gloy’ ( remember them ) olive drab which were given to me, one of them is still unopened. It has a distinct brownish tint which I like for USAF aircraft. Sorry, that’s not really much use to you, just boasting. John PS I think some of the bombs used in Korea were probably left over from WW2 so the paintwork wouldn’t have been exactly pristine so brush painting is good. Gloy paint? Hmmm, I only remember the glue I think (stirs grey matter) Thanks for the note on the bombs! Speaking of which: I've vandalised the trees to separate the internals and started painting things some sort of black: You can also see the i/p decal has been applied in the middle of the photo. Shiny. I think I'll dot some red and blast it with Dullcote. 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles87 Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 I’ve just checked and the olive drab pots are Compucolour. I do still have a few pots of Gloy though. John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrislowe Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 I'm going to tag along for this one. You're off and running already, looks like a good start! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Absolutely no help at all but when my unit was picked up by a pair of US Army Chinooks they were both Olive. BUT both Olives were different shades of brown with hints of green on one and hints of gray on the other Just a waste of space aren't I, sorry! 3 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 1 hour ago, perdu said: Just a waste of space aren't I, sorry! No you're not Bill - that's the thing with colours - they're very rarely consistent. My favourite memory, which I've no doubt mentioned before, was wandering around the 64 Squadron dispersal at Coningsby whilst on IOT, and of the 15 or so Phantoms there, some in grey/green and others in the new A.D. greys scheme, no two parked next to each other were the same colourwise - even the 'newly' painted grey jets. So personally I ignore any statements that are pedantic about colours on in service equipment! Bombs look fine Ced - maybe not rusty enough...!! 🤣 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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