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  • Kerfkiller changed the title to 1/72 Scale Italeri Sunderland Mk1

I have this kit, and despite the endless wailing and wringing of hands over the 'too-deep' panel lines, it's a nicely-detailed kit that goes together well and is light-years ahead of the ancient Airfix effort. Good luck with yours - looks like a good start!

 

Regards,

 

Jason

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hi thanks for the feed back,

yes i intend to do the kit as 490 (NZ) Squadron aircraft especially as they were camo painted, not white like they were in NZ (do not like painting white), My brother Joined the rnzaf prior to the phase out in the '60's, will post a few more pics in due course, getting to grips with the turrets and engines

George

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Hi Guys making progress slowly here are a few more pictures

 

Rear turrett1

Rear turret

motors 1

Motors in progress

 

motors 2

 

Props 1

In cowlings

 

fusulage 2

anchor etc in place

Front turrett1

Front turret 

Cockpit Screen

 

 Front windscreen

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On 6/14/2020 at 4:19 PM, Kerfkiller said:

i intend to do the kit as 490 (NZ) Squadron aircraft especially as they were camo painted, not white like they were in NZ

Just an FYI, the kit you are building is fully a Mk I Sunderland, and

does not represent in any form a Mk III Sunderland - Sorry, different Engines

Hull/Wings etc etc.....

 

 

 490 Sqn started flying Catalina's in West Africa (Jui) 1943

490 (NZ) Sqn Jui - Catalina

 

490 (NZ) Sqn Jui - Catalina 1

 

To add another note, the Mk III's 490 Sqn did fly, were TSS on wings/top of Fuselage,

and white for the rest per photo below link below

490 (NZ) Sqn Jui - Sunderland Mk III

 

The Mk III Sunderland's, didn't arrive in West Africa till about 1944, by this time definitely in

white. By this time all surviving Mk I's were also wearing white.

 

If you have your heart set on your Mk I with a Kiwi connection, I might suggest a

95 Squadron Mk I, or even a 204 Squadron Mk I (decals in the kit for that one)

 

95 Sqn Sunderland at Freetown West Africa (per Wiki)

95_Squadron_RAF_Sunderland_at_Freetown_W

 

95 Sqn at Freetown

 

Below is a a History which might interest you especially for 95/490 Squadron's

New Zealander's in 95 & 490 Sqns

 

 

Regards

 

Alan

 

 

 

 

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Hi Alan, 

Thanks for the info, since starting the kit i have got my hands on a MK3 so now i know that the MK1 has Kiwi connections will build accordingly especially since the decals are in the kit, give me more practice which i need plenty of. By the way what does TSS mean ?

regards George

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TSS Temperate Sea Scheme. Extra Dark Sea Grey and Dark Slate Grey on the topside.

 

Underside could be Aluminium, Sky Grey, Sky, Black or White depending on the date, role and aircraft type.

 

If you have a biplane the topside of the lower wings may have been painted In Dark Sea Grey and Light Slate Grey in “shadow shading”.

 

Regards,

Adrian

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11 minutes ago, Kerfkiller said:

By the way what does TSS mean ?

Hi George,

 

TSS = Temperate Sea Scheme, RAF  camouflage on aircraft operating over the sea,

consisting of Extra Dark Sea Grey/Dark Slate Grey/Sky, up until some time in

1943 when it changed to just Extra Dark Sea Grey/Dark Slate Grey/White.

 

490 (NZ) Sqn Sunderland Mk III's would have had Extra Dark Sea Grey & Dark Slate Grey

on the upper Wings/Tail planes and top of fuselage

490 Mk III in Africa after VE Day

490 Sqn Sunderland Mk III

 

Regards

 

Alan

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The camouflage on flying boats had changed , certainly by 1944, - to just Extra Dark Sea Grey on purely top planform rather than TSS.  This would include all white engine cowlings and white leading edges.  This does appear to be the case for the aircraft in the photo above.

 

It should be added that the undersides were gloss White and the sides matt regardless of the top.

 

Aircraft were probably not repainted until major overhaul.  This would certainly be true of those overseas.

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1 hour ago, Graham Boak said:

The camouflage on flying boats had changed , certainly by 1944, - to just Extra Dark Sea Grey on purely top planform rather than TSS.  This would include all white engine cowlings and white leading edges.  This does appear to be the case for the aircraft in the photo above.

These two links of the Same 270 Sqn Sunderland at Apapa (Freetown)

have the unpainted collector cowling rings, and looks certainty to be in uppers

of EDSG/DSG/White (Excerpt from Flying Boat Queen) - I knew the author

of the transcript/photo, who had been seconded from 490 Sqn to 270 Sqn

as 2nd Dickie (Pilot)

270 Sqn Sunderland

270 Sqn Sunderland 2

 

490 Sqn Sunderland Mk III at Jui with Un-Painted Cowling Collector Rings

and possibly EDSG/DSG on top

490 Sqn Sunderland Mk III at Jui

 

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Is it a boat? Is it a plane? No, it is a Sunderland!

 

What a fantastic machine, and your build is looking really nice so far. I will be following you with anticipation.

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Hi 

thanks for the feedback regarding the color schemes etc . i was hoping to avoid white as mine always looks crap!!, face the fear and do it anyway :) 

cheers George

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3 hours ago, Kerfkiller said:

Hi 

thanks for the feedback regarding the color schemes etc . i was hoping to avoid white as mine always looks crap!!, face the fear and do it anyway :) 

cheers George

Hi George,

 

For your Italeri Mk III Sunderland, if you are wanting to avoid the White Schemes,

and still do an RNZAF Scheme, you can do one of the 4 Mk III Transports, that arrived

in New Zealand late 1944. They were in the Temperate Sea Scheme.

The markings can be obtained from Old Model Decals in New Zealand.

I'm currently building one in the Journey's End" GB

RNZAF Mk III Sunderland Transport

 

Regards

 

Alan

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