dogsbody Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 I've got one of those MPM T.VIII's. I can't comment on it as I haven't had it out of the box since I bought it 10 years ago. It is one of the older MPM releases. Chris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2996 Victor Posted June 1, 2020 Author Share Posted June 1, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, alt-92 said: Every now and then, a single 1/72 T-8W from MPM makes it to some well-known auction site. The model represents the early short-fuselage R-1 to R-6 aircraft for the MLD*. However, being rare as hen's teeth, be prepared to see prices of 70/80€. (which incidentally means the included markings can't be used but hey-ho it's a T-8W) Hope you'll forgive my ignorance, but is the T-8W the Douglas DB-8, or have got the wrong end of the stick? Thanks and kind regards, Mark Edit: I've got the wrong end of the stick. Lol! Edited June 1, 2020 by 2996 Victor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alt-92 Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Does yours have the decal correction sheet? @seahawk : looks like an odds'n ends lot: Quote reduced price due no boxes left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 No. The T-VIIIW was a Fokker design, the Douglas DB8 was a single-engined attack aircraft designed by Jack Northrop, and perhaps better known for the retractable undercarriage version the A-17, or Nomad. I have a feeling that someone, obviously MPM, did the experimental land version the T-9 but I may be imagining this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alt-92 Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Graham Boak said: I have a feeling that someone, obviously MPM, did the experimental land version the T-9 but I may be imagining this. You may be thinking of this one: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2996 Victor Posted June 1, 2020 Author Share Posted June 1, 2020 (edited) Any views on the Pioneer 2 or PM 1/72 Fokker D.XXI kits viz a vis accuracy? Thanks in advance and kind regards, Mark Edited June 1, 2020 by 2996 Victor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfman Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 And don’t forget the old Frog Fokker ! Wulfman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Work In Progress Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 9 hours ago, 2996 Victor said: Any views on the Pioneer 2 or PM 1/72 Fokker D.XXI kits viz a vis accuracy? Thanks in advance and kind regards, Mark PM and Pioneer 2 are the same kit. The same plastic also came out as a Matchbox kit. The Frog kit was a Frog original. There is a comparison of the two kits here: https://modelingmadness.com/review/allies/dutch/bakerd21.htm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2996 Victor Posted June 2, 2020 Author Share Posted June 2, 2020 2 hours ago, Work In Progress said: PM and Pioneer 2 are the same kit. The same plastic also came out as a Matchbox kit. The Frog kit was a Frog original. There is a comparison of the two kits here: https://modelingmadness.com/review/allies/dutch/bakerd21.htm Hi WiP, many thanks for the link - there's a great deal of info contained there and it's helped with making a semi-informed D.XXI choice, at least I think it has! As both the Frog and PM/Pioneer 2 kits have their limitations in various areas and aren't that cheap to pick up I think I'm going to go with the MPM kit, but as the Dutch versions of that are rarer than hen's teeth and the Hi-tech issue of Finnish version is still available, that's what I think I'm going for. As far as I can gather from the ModelingMadness link, the primary differences between the Dutch and Finnish machines are: cowling blisters vee-shaped tailplane struts a small venturi tube on the fuselage port side ahead of the cockpit a landing light faired into the starboard wing leading edge wingtip navigation lights two under-fuselage air scoops different pitot location different gunsight The description of the MPM Hi-tech Finnish version states that the skis are resin parts, so I'm hoping 🤞 that the parts for the spatted wheel undercarriage are still included among the mouldings..... Apart from that, to my untutored eye at least, a little judicious sanding and fettling should do the trick. Am I setting myself up for a fall? Thoughts, please! Kind regards, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Work In Progress Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 4 hours ago, 2996 Victor said: The description of the MPM Hi-tech Finnish version states that the skis are resin parts, so I'm hoping 🤞 that the parts for the spatted wheel undercarriage are still included among the mouldings They are. There is a review of that kit showing the sprues here http://kits.kitreview.com/sh72526reviewbg_1.htm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2996 Victor Posted June 2, 2020 Author Share Posted June 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Work In Progress said: They are. There is a review of that kit showing the sprues here http://kits.kitreview.com/sh72526reviewbg_1.htm Hi @Work In Progress, That's brilliant, thank you! Again! Kind regards, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 4 hours ago, 2996 Victor said: two under-fuselage air scoops The first intake is for the updraft carburetor; the second is for the oil cooler; I remember I had to scratchbuild both of them and the exhaust pipe and venturi when I did my 1/72 Frog DXXI in Finnish colors and markings. Good luck on your build! The DXXI is a handsome little spud. Mike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2996 Victor Posted June 2, 2020 Author Share Posted June 2, 2020 1 minute ago, 72modeler said: The first intake is for the updraft carburetor; the second is for the oil cooler; I remember I had to scratchbuild both of them and the exhaust pipe and venturi when I did my 1/72 Frog DXXI in Finnish colors and markings. Good luck on your build! The DXXI is a handsome little spud. Mike Hi Mike, Many thanks for the extra info! As I understand it, the Dutch (and Danish?) machines had only one scoop, which must be the carburettor intake, of course - presumably there weren't dedicated oil coolers on them? I'm looking forward to this build, but it'll be a little while yet as I'm only a recent returned to aircraft modelling and still getting started! Kind regards, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 19 minutes ago, 2996 Victor said: presumably there weren't dedicated oil coolers on them? Yes, they had oil coolers, but I think the Mercury-powered variants had two tubes with flared ends that were located just inside the cowl nose ring that fed the oil cooler- the same setup as used on the Blenheims, IIRC. @Antti_K or @antti will know, for sure, where the Finnish versions are concerned. Mike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2996 Victor Posted June 2, 2020 Author Share Posted June 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, 72modeler said: Yes, they had oil coolers, but I think the Mercury-powered variants had two tubes with flared ends that were located just inside the cowl nose ring that fed the oil cooler- the same setup as used on the Blenheims, IIRC. @Antti_K or @antti will know, for sure, where the Finnish versions are concerned. Mike Ah-ha! Every day's a school day, as they say! I never knew what those intakes were for until now, although I can remember getting into a right mess with my Airfix Blenheim IV (40-odd years ago....) trying to fix them in place! 😁 Many thanks, Mike! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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